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met worst
The Drongo Club
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:14:00 -
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Somebody said again recently (and I see it so often it makes my eyes bleed) that carebears "ought to go to 0.0 to toughen up".
You wanna know something. I felt SAFER in 0.0 than I do in highsec.
In 0.0 you KNOW they came to kill you. The certainty is quite stark.
In highsec, the bloke pulling up in his Orca MIGHT be there to kill you or mine all friendly like. You only know for sure when a pod warps in and out pops out a Brutix.
There's no red or neutral, there's nothing.
There's no intel. No TS, no Jabber.
Just DEATH.
0.0 is SAFER.
So why do nullseccers make it sound so bad when it's not? Bad boy syndrome? Hero cred? |
Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
380
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:20:00 -
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everyone knows 0.0 is safer. people just troll. |
Mr M
Agony Unleashed
101
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:42:00 -
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Yeah, death is certainly a lot safer than autopiloting through highsec.
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Nex apparatu5
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
153
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:44:00 -
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I was going to respond, but then I saw you were a miner, and therefore incapable of logic or rational thought |
met worst
The Drongo Club
116
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:45:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:I was going to respond, but then I saw you were a miner, and therefore incapable of logic or rational thought I once was a testie. Then I had a logical and rational ephinany and left. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:58:00 -
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met worst wrote:So why do nullseccers make it sound so bad when it's not? Bad boy syndrome? Hero cred? Don't let the secret out, silly. If they realize that's the care we'll HAVE to camp the regional gates 23/7 to stop them from harassing our belts of 0.0 ores.
That said, I suppose some will come in anyway, since alliances might want to secure a source of high value minerals that won't disappear when drones drop different loot. At least we won't get CONCORDed or even lose sec status when ganking them.
Or, wait for it - AFK CLOAK- near the belt, just waiting for the moment to get a delicious miner killmail.
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Terminal Entry
New Fnord Industries
24
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Posted - 2012.01.29 06:59:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:I was going to respond, but then I saw you were a miner, and therefore incapable of logic or rational thought
But you did reply
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Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
260
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Posted - 2012.01.29 07:02:00 -
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You're a horrible troll dude. Yes, areas of deklein can become 'safe' but only so long as every person does their part to allow everything to operate as it should from logistics to intel to defense fleets, whereas in highsec you sit on your lazy ass and concord protects without having to do anything (except, of course, for our recent efforts to change this by importing a threat...) |
Tore Vest
164
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Posted - 2012.01.29 07:10:00 -
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met worst wrote:Somebody said again recently (and I see it so often it makes my eyes bleed) that carebears "ought to go to 0.0 to toughen up".
You wanna know something. I felt SAFER in 0.0 than I do in highsec.
In 0.0 you KNOW they came to kill you. The certainty is quite stark.
In highsec, the bloke pulling up in his Orca MIGHT be there to kill you or mine all friendly like. You only know for sure when a pod warps in and out pops out a Brutix.
Agree.... In 0.0... you only have to watch local.... If anything enters... your out.... In highsec... you have to watch anything that gets inside grid..... and...you get a lot shorter time to respond on a threath
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
121
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Posted - 2012.01.29 07:11:00 -
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The rent is cheaper in high sec |
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sYnc Vir
Wolfsbrigade
139
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Posted - 2012.01.29 08:27:00 -
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Skydell wrote:The rent is cheaper in high sec
lul you pay rent. |
Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2012.01.29 08:29:00 -
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Nex apparatu5 wrote:I was going to respond, but then I saw you were a miner, and therefore incapable of logic or rational thought
Likewise as you are a goonie affiliate I draw the same conclusion towards yourself. |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
The I and F Taxation Trust
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Posted - 2012.01.29 09:08:00 -
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Well, 0.0 is so distressing that l33t nullseccers must come out to hisec and blow easy targets just to relax a bit from the frantic fun they have at the nullsec meatgrinder. |
Czeris
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:01:00 -
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Wow, the 3 ships and no pods that I lost in my first year of Eve playing in High Sec, compared to the dozens of ships and pods I've lost in nullsec seems to betray the veracity of your claim.
Also what the **** is an "ephinany"? |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
275
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:04:00 -
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so highsec is dangerous because it's so safe you get lulled into a false sense of security, to the point where you take zero precautions? |
Meryl SinGarda
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
321
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:09:00 -
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I've been living in high-sec for over a year (since this character's creation) and the only reasons I've ever come under fire are either:
A. Wardecs
or
B. Me wanting to get blown up somewhere
Fly Safe, Die Hard
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
947
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:24:00 -
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Off topic posts removed. Please stay on topic and polite, thank you. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
261
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:24:00 -
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Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:so highsec is dangerous because it's so safe you get lulled into a false sense of security, to the point where you take zero precautions?
Safety is danger
War is peace
Slavery is freedom ~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
ACE McFACE
Acetech Systems
560
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:05:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:so highsec is dangerous because it's so safe you get lulled into a false sense of security, to the point where you take zero precautions? Safety is danger War is peace Slavery is freedom NO RATS, DONT EAT MY FACE Real men wear goggles and a Navy shirt! |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
28
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:07:00 -
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That's because the scariest thing in nullsec is a cloaked kestrel in your favorite sanctum system |
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1324
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:14:00 -
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all of the "safety" is player-made.
sollution
make an empire... defeat all alliances in null, dissband alliance and corps within everyone will live by theirs own rules..
But than someone else make an alliance
and do the same with much less effort. |
Oxandrolone
Bite me inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
11
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:18:00 -
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What you said is so ridiculous i dont knnow how to try and make an analogy but here goes.
its like sying living in a city is more dangerous than living out in the wilderness because in a city when you meet somewon you dont know if their going to kill you or not. Atleast in the wilderness when you meat a pack of wolves you know they're going to try and kill you so therefore the wilderness is safer. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1324
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:22:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote:What you said is so ridiculous i dont knnow how to try and make an analogy but here goes.
its like sying living in a city is more dangerous than living out in the wilderness because in a city when you meet somewon you dont know if their going to kill you or not. Atleast in the wilderness when you meat a pack of wolves you know they're going to try and kill you so therefore the wilderness is safer.
but by your analogy it is. indeed.. especially if you are green beret special forces trained in hand to hand combat and have an small hideout nobody can get in...if you so chose to.. faster then hunter can reach you ..
So ..it is safer by any means..
But that safety is "PLAYER CREATED" therefore .. |
Aldeskwatso
New Horizon Enterprises Beyond All Bounds
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:26:00 -
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Safety is more or less a relative thing for me. Doesn't really have much to do with where you are. Instead I believe it has more to do with knowing what you are doing. As long as you know that, anywhere can be relatively save.
But if you don't, null and low sec tend to be less forgiving when it comes to making mistakes.
Going to low and null earlier instead of growing fat and lazy in high sec aint such a bad idea. You'll learn things a lot faster then when you would stick around in high sec where making mistakes is much more ofter forgiven and goes mostly even unnoticed. Instead of losing billions you'll lose millions learning them lessons. When I point to the moon don't stare a my finger! |
Tore Vest
165
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Posted - 2012.01.29 11:41:00 -
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Czeris wrote:Wow, the 3 ships and no pods that I lost in my first year of Eve playing in High Sec, compared to the dozens of ships and pods I've lost in nullsec seems to betray the veracity of your claim.
No matter where... If your looking for troubble.... you find it....
Highsec carebear... and proud of it |
Orion GUardian
109
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:06:00 -
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*sigh*
AS someone said already: Alle safety is player made.
Of course: "Highsec is full of neuts" so you never know what the other guy is up to while in nullsec everyone that is not your allie is your enemy. That is right, there is a beauty of black/white thinking making risk assessment far easier.
But you wouldn't stop missioning in Highsec because of neutrals in system (you might stop when they warp into your mission) but you kind of HAVE TO if you don't want to lose a ship in nullsec.
So the ONLY thing that makes highsec "more dangerous" is the people being lured in by the peace it normally offers and getting stupid. The real difference is: "Being stupid in highsec might lose you a ship someday" "Being stupid in nullsec will lose your shipS for sure, often" |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
124
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Posted - 2012.01.29 17:08:00 -
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sYnc Vir wrote:Skydell wrote:The rent is cheaper in high sec lul you pay rent.
Dunno where you build your Sandcastles but you will find out in good time, it's a lease. I don't care who's corp name is on the TCU. I've never once had to Evac my Jita stuff. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1360
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Posted - 2012.01.29 17:12:00 -
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High sec is the place where ******** scrublord cowards hang out. 0.0 is perfectly safe for PVE but if that's all you ever do then you should probably biomass your worthless waste of space character. (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Pavel Bidermann
Aliastra Gallente Federation
74
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Posted - 2012.01.29 17:17:00 -
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Well, it's no secret that null is pretty darn safe.
I think some of these troll thread responses are missing a key point to the whole " high sec dwellers are risk averse". In most cases its a result of profit assessment. Losses are always a risk, but some risks are more likely losses than others. Therefore these are not profitable risks. It isn't that there is a problem with losing ships but more of a question of the amount of profit that can be gained for the amout of ship/equipment loss and the cost of logistics iin supporting the business venture.
Personally,I believe I've only lost 2 ships in null sec PvP. I haven't undockied in months since there has yet to be a reason to. I have lost a metric f-ton of ships between my accounts in high and low sec while mostly ming or mission running. PvP is okay but certainly not worth concidering as an end game.
Therefore, carebears are playing a much more complex game than the "I fly ship! Go pew-pew!" crowd. I'm not saying its a better or worse game style. Just different. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids
124
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Posted - 2012.01.29 17:18:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:High sec is the place where ******** scrublord cowards hang out. 0.0 is perfectly safe for PVE but if that's all you ever do then you should probably biomass your worthless waste of space character.
And you should go play in traffic the next time you consider posting on a forum. |
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