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Parisite Eve
Covert Clandestine Affairs
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Posted - 2016.12.23 05:10:23 -
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Is anyone else having issues with prices not updating correctly. Since the last update all raw materials and component prices a far too low. For Instance Tritanium is listed at 2.03. This causes all Items to show huge profits. For example the Raven is listing at 60 mil/per hour.
I have re-installed and put it on another computer with the same issue.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks for continuing to develop this program, it is an extremely valuable tool.
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Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
1814
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Posted - 2016.12.23 23:51:21 -
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Tatanka Startamer wrote:Thanks for a great app! I'm a new user, and I have a couple questions...
I have APIs hooked up for two chars and a corp. Most of the blueprints are owned by the corp, with some on the alt, but in IPH they show up under the main, which is where they were when I originally put in the APIs. I there a "sync the APIs" button I'm missing.?
Also, I see where the "default char" is set, but is there a way to have the "owned BPs" look at all chars, since I don't care which one it's on, I want to see them all.
And finally, what about the corp? Is there a way to see those BPs? Will it default to using the corp data, if that char is a member of that corp?
Thanks,
Tat You can't own bps scanned from the API on multiple characters. It's something I never implemented and probably won't get to it anytime soon. Best option is to load them all for one and manually add them for the others. Or you could add them all to corp, wait for the API to refresh and load them all and save as owned on all your characters.
Corp BP's need to be loaded with a corp API key. You can add that in the account management under file.
Parisite Eve wrote:Is anyone else having issues with prices not updating correctly. Since the last update all raw materials and component prices a far too low. For Instance Tritanium is listed at 2.03. This causes all Items to show huge profits. For example the Raven is listing at 60 mil/per hour.
I have re-installed and put it on another computer with the same issue.
Anyway, I just want to say thanks for continuing to develop this program, it is an extremely valuable tool.
I'm not seeing an issue. Are you using EVE Central or CCP data? What is your price type selection?
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Parisite Eve
Covert Clandestine Affairs
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:47:56 -
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I tried both. Using CCP data sets all prices to 0.01 for tritanium and .05 for Pyerite and so on depending on item. Eve Data sets this to 2.03 for Tritanium 4.10 for Pyerite. It seems almost like they are default values, like what the program does if the prices don't download correctly. |
Parisite Eve
Covert Clandestine Affairs
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Posted - 2016.12.24 03:53:20 -
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By the way I am using Windows 10 on both machines. I removed my Corporate API thinking that might be causing the problem but It didn't seem to help.
My Internet has been choppy this last week. Would ISK per hour default to these values if it couldn't download new prices? |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
1814
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Posted - 2016.12.24 13:31:58 -
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Parisite Eve wrote:I tried both. Using CCP data sets all prices to 0.01 for tritanium and .05 for Pyerite and so on depending on item. Eve Data sets this to 2.03 for Tritanium 4.10 for Pyerite. It seems almost like they are default values, like what the program does if the prices don't download correctly. I don't set any default prices except 0 if they don't download. What kind of prices are you downloading? Max sell? Max buy? Percentile? What region? What does the market say in game for the region you are downloading? There are so many possibilities to include to figure out what you are getting. Downloading Max Buy in Jita is going to return far different data than Max Sell in Cobalt Edge.
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Marquis Decardardus
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2016.12.24 16:29:09 -
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I might have missed it but I have not seen it in the blog. Is there any way to select one of the Citadels/Engineering Stations? I know that will take a lot of work to put them in because CCP prob does not have any way to show them in the system or what rigs they have on them. But it would be Very nice to have this feature due to the fact that most of the crafting will now be moving toward this. |
Parisite Eve
Covert Clandestine Affairs
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Posted - 2016.12.24 17:05:32 -
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Zifrian wrote:Parisite Eve wrote:I tried both. Using CCP data sets all prices to 0.01 for tritanium and .05 for Pyerite and so on depending on item. Eve Data sets this to 2.03 for Tritanium 4.10 for Pyerite. It seems almost like they are default values, like what the program does if the prices don't download correctly. I don't set any default prices except 0 if they don't download. What kind of prices are you downloading? Max sell? Max buy? Percentile? What region? What does the market say in game for the region you are downloading? There are so many possibilities to include to figure out what you are getting. Downloading Max Buy in Jita is going to return far different data than Max Sell in Cobalt Edge.
Oh my god. Now I feel stupid. The Raw materials box was switched from Max sell to Min sell. That was all. Hours of Brain racking and messing with multiple computers and Api's and it was just one little option.
Anyways. Thank you very much, and thank you for such a great program. |
Perimeter Trade Kalkoken
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.12.28 08:34:13 -
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Sorry if it has been addressed and I have missed it. The mining tab, wont let me work out rorqual mining and excavator drones? Or is that still a WIP.
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Ram1g0
RU Industry
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Posted - 2016.12.28 20:42:16 -
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Sorry for dumb question, but can you please explain what does "percentile" buy or sell means ? Also what setting should i use for updating prices: eve central or ccp data? Thanks. |
Bruce Sotken
Calibrated Chaos Triumvirate.
2
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Posted - 2016.12.29 12:18:54 -
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Couple of questions/comments about the "Current Industry Jobs" Screen:
- According to the third party API docs, the cache timer on current jobs is 30mins but it appears that pressing the update jobs button only updates roughly once every 6 hours (the cache time for the job history endpoint). Is there an internal restriction on API calls or is this a problem at CCP's end?
- It appears that if you cancel a job, it appears as complete in the current jobs tab until it disappears off the API (after 90 days). Could these be filtered out?
Apart from that, it's an awesome app, thank you for maintaining it so well |
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Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
1814
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Posted - 2016.12.29 14:41:56 -
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Perimeter Trade Kalkoken wrote:Sorry if it has been addressed and I have missed it. The mining tab, wont let me work out rorqual mining and excavator drones? Or is that still a WIP.
Version 3.3.6196.19863 There is a box to add mining drone yield to the calcs but nothing else I'm planning on doing with that. Unless I'm missing something, I'm not sure there is a way to calculate mining drone yield easily with travel times and placement.
Ram1g0 wrote:Sorry for dumb question, but can you please explain what does "percentile" buy or sell means ? Also what setting should i use for updating prices: eve central or ccp data? Thanks. Percentile is the price at the 95% of all prices for buy (5% for sell) to give a relative price compared to all prices. So for buy, 95% of the prices fall below that value and 5% above (for sell the opposite). For comparison, a 50% percentile would be the median price.
EVE Central is faster and probably has lagging prices but is generally pretty close. CCP Data is direct prices from in game but slower to download. Up to you what version you use.
Bruce Sotken wrote:Couple of questions/comments about the "Current Industry Jobs" Screen:
- According to the third party API docs, the cache timer on current jobs is 30mins but it appears that pressing the update jobs button only updates roughly once every 6 hours (the cache time for the job history endpoint). Is there an internal restriction on API calls or is this a problem at CCP's end?
- It appears that if you cancel a job, it appears as complete in the current jobs tab until it disappears off the API (after 90 days). Could these be filtered out?
Apart from that, it's an awesome app, thank you for maintaining it so well Thanks for the input. I'm working on some changes to the industry jobs viewer currently.
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Ram1g0
RU Industry
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Posted - 2016.12.29 15:04:13 -
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Zifrian wrote: Percentile is the price at the 95% of all prices for buy (5% for sell) to give a relative price compared to all prices. So for buy, 95% of the prices fall below that value and 5% above (for sell the opposite). For comparison, a 50% percentile would be the median price.
EVE Central is faster and probably has lagging prices but is generally pretty close. CCP Data is direct prices from in game but slower to download. Up to you what version you use.
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And what do you think, what is the best price settings? Max Sell, Min buy or percentile?
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Haffsol
65
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Posted - 2016.12.29 18:59:46 -
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Just a silly request but what about caching all the data that IPH loads at every boot? I know it's more accurate as it is now but as someone who closes and opens the program several times a day but cannot leave it open all day long that's a bit annoying. Besides, the really critical values that should always be kept up-to-date are prices, which are instead to be updated manually so I don't think it would hurt too much using cached data for all the others value too. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
3011
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Posted - 2016.12.29 21:42:15 -
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Ram1g0 wrote:Zifrian wrote: Percentile is the price at the 95% of all prices for buy (5% for sell) to give a relative price compared to all prices. So for buy, 95% of the prices fall below that value and 5% above (for sell the opposite). For comparison, a 50% percentile would be the median price.
EVE Central is faster and probably has lagging prices but is generally pretty close. CCP Data is direct prices from in game but slower to download. Up to you what version you use.
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And what do you think, what is the best price settings? Max Sell, Min buy or percentile?
If you don't want to lie to yourself about your profitability, raw material should really always be the min sell for Jita. That's pretty much the fair value at which you could easily sell any minerals instead of building with them. Even if you mined them yourself, you should be valuing your minerals at about the min sell in Jita. If you bought them for less, that's STILL what they're worth as production input.
Max sell is mostly a useless value. If I go set one tritanium for sale for a billion isk in Jita, there's the max sell. Nobody would really use that.
If you use Max Buy, you're going to mix trade profit into your production profit. You're just flipping minerals at that point, and could even build at a loss (while still showing a profit) when you would have been better off reselling the minerals directly, particularly given how "liquid" raw minerals are compared to finished goods.
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Grigg Skjellerup
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.12.30 01:18:22 -
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Just installed this for the first time.
Apologies if it's been asked, but is there a way to manually enter either the system index or tax rate? I'm in a high sec azbel, which doesn't appear to be supported yet. So I can pick the system to get the correct system index, but then can only pick npc stations & 10% tax rate. Or I can pick an outpost to manually set the tax rate, but that only allows me to pick some systems (Null regions only?), so I can't set the right system index.
Not a huge deal, I can turn off taxes, then manually add them, or manually adjust from the 10%. But I just want to check I'm not missing something obvious. |
Scarlett LaBlanc
Midnight Savran Industries
185
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Posted - 2016.12.30 01:22:44 -
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Grigg Skjellerup wrote:Just installed this for the first time.
Apologies if it's been asked, but is there a way to manually enter either the system index or tax rate? I'm in a high sec azbel, which doesn't appear to be supported yet. So I can pick the system to get the correct system index, but then can only pick npc stations & 10% tax rate. Or I can pick an outpost to manually set the tax rate, but that only allows me to pick some systems (Null regions only?), so I can't set the right system index.
Not a huge deal, I can turn off taxes, then manually add them, or manually adjust from the 10%. But I just want to check I'm not missing something obvious.
What I have been doing is selecting the proper system and the POS module closest to what the EC really gives. For me this is normally under calling it by 1% (POS module gives 2% bonus, the EC 1%).
To correct the numbers I lower the ME on the blueprint by 1 and the numbers match what happens in game. |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
1814
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Posted - 2016.12.30 03:33:15 -
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Grigg Skjellerup wrote:Just installed this for the first time.
Apologies if it's been asked, but is there a way to manually enter either the system index or tax rate? I'm in a high sec azbel, which doesn't appear to be supported yet. So I can pick the system to get the correct system index, but then can only pick npc stations & 10% tax rate. Or I can pick an outpost to manually set the tax rate, but that only allows me to pick some systems (Null regions only?), so I can't set the right system index.
Not a huge deal, I can turn off taxes, then manually add them, or manually adjust from the 10%. But I just want to check I'm not missing something obvious. You can adjust the system index manually on the options tab in the facilities box. So best bet for now would probably be to set the facility to an outpost and then adjust the system index that way.
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Jume Enderas
Fedo Manufacturing Inc
0
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Posted - 2016.12.30 14:55:09 -
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Scarlett LaBlanc wrote:Grigg Skjellerup wrote:Just installed this for the first time.
Apologies if it's been asked, but is there a way to manually enter either the system index or tax rate? I'm in a high sec azbel, which doesn't appear to be supported yet. So I can pick the system to get the correct system index, but then can only pick npc stations & 10% tax rate. Or I can pick an outpost to manually set the tax rate, but that only allows me to pick some systems (Null regions only?), so I can't set the right system index.
Not a huge deal, I can turn off taxes, then manually add them, or manually adjust from the 10%. But I just want to check I'm not missing something obvious. What I have been doing is selecting the proper system and the POS module closest to what the EC really gives. For me this is normally under calling it by 1% (POS module gives 2% bonus, the EC 1%). To correct the numbers I lower the ME on the blueprint by 1 and the numbers match what happens in game.
You could also get any SQL manager and edit the value of the equipment array, that's what I did. just remember to multiply the bonus from the EC instead of adding them (e.g: 1% bonus from EC + 2% from rigs = 2.98%). |
Vartan Sarkisian
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
203
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Posted - 2017.01.06 13:53:36 -
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I am having an issue with incorrect pricing, I have updated pricing using both the eve central and he CCP data options and get the same issue.
I am downloading prices fro Jita for Quantum Microprocessors, IPH says buy the item and states the price is 48.526k ppu, the market price is 56k ppu whch pushes the program over the threahhold to say build it. I know that the market can move quickly in Jitaso I suppose that the price could have moved that much in a very short space of time .
I dont know if this is an issue or just a fast moving market, is there anyway I can ensure up to date pricing (within say 5 minutes) rather than manually altering priin |
Elange4
Nomad Technologies Sublime Machinery Inc.
13
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Posted - 2017.01.09 02:43:30 -
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I used the program succesfully only two hours ago, but on re-opening it now I cannot get past the first couple steps
"Unable to download CREST data for Citadel Information Error: The operation has timed out"
followed by the next popup which closes the program with this log:
"An Unhandled Exception has occured and EVE Isk per Hour will now close.
Please fill out the following information so I can reproduce the bug
What is your Operating System? What tab or screen did the error occur? What are the steps to reproduce the Error? Web link to a screenshot of your error: In addition to a screenshot, copy the data below and send to developer.
Source: EVE Isk per Hour Message: An error occurred creating the form. See Exception.InnerException for details. The error is: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. Raw Error Text: System.InvalidOperationException: An error occurred creating the form. See Exception.InnerException for details. The error is: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. ---> System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object. at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.EVECREST.GetCitadelName(String ID) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.EVEAssets.GetAssetLocationAndFlagInfo(Int64 LocationID, Int32& FlagID, String& FlagText) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.EVEAssets.LoadAssets(ScanType AssetType, Boolean RefreshAssets) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Character.LoadCharacterData(Boolean RefreshAssets, Boolean RefreshBlueprints, Int64 CharacterID) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Character.LoadDefaultCharacter(Boolean ReloadAPIData, Boolean RefreshAssets, Boolean RefreshBlueprints, Int64 CharacterID, Boolean OverrideCacheDate) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.Public_Variables.LoadCharacter(Boolean RefreshAssets, Boolean RefreshBPs) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.frmMain..ctor() --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.My.MyProject.MyForms.Create__Instance__[T](T Instance) at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.My.MyProject.MyForms.get_frmMain() at EVE_Isk_per_Hour.My.MyApplication.OnCreateMainForm() at Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.OnRun() at Microsoft.VisualBasic.ApplicationServices.WindowsFormsApplicationBase.DoApplicationModel() Error Tracking:
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I was not aware that Citadel information was available yet for the api even, so perhaps this is a transition problem to be resolved soon?
@Zifrian, as always, I will troubleshoot for you in game if you need me to...
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titan Chipri
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2017.01.09 03:26:33 -
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I'm getting the same error, also on W10 |
Elange4
Nomad Technologies Sublime Machinery Inc.
14
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Posted - 2017.01.09 04:38:27 -
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btw Zifrian, I do own a single asset item in the Perimeter V Trade Hub citadel that is going through reinforcement because they are at war with Pandemic Horde.
I do not know the status of the citadel, but it is possible that item has entered asset safety, or will soon.
Perhaps this is the nature of the citadel api pull error.
-- E4 |
Precator Auharki
Baxter Industries
1
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Posted - 2017.01.09 12:38:24 -
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When you guys download your prices what is the best option to use eve central or ccp data? |
Elange4
Nomad Technologies Sublime Machinery Inc.
14
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Posted - 2017.01.10 05:04:33 -
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@Precator ... Eve central loads much faster but CCP data is usually a little more up to date
if you have a high SVR then prices are usually pretty stable, so eve central ... but if you need up to the minute data CCP, like if you have a sub 0.50 SVR that changes price a lot
interesting column to add is the Percentage change column ... it can tell you a lot, esp if you are on short term SVR data like a week or 15 days (when you select SVR settings then it pulls prices for that period too) ... for 30 day SVR things will always appear more stable than they will be when trying to sell it.
does this help? |
Elange4
Nomad Technologies Sublime Machinery Inc.
14
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Posted - 2017.01.10 05:06:29 -
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@Zifrian
The problem seems to be resolved completely now, not just for me but for everyone else that I knew about it effecting. |
Ram1g0
RU Industry
0
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Posted - 2017.01.10 07:24:45 -
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Is it possible to copy shopping list to eve notepad as hyperlinks (right click on it after paste)? atm it copies only as a text.
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Gerart en Daire
HY-AE
8
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Posted - 2017.01.10 23:50:26 -
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First time poster in this thread. o7
I added a few pirate/faction ships to owned Blueprints too see/watch how profitable they are with IPH, since, well, I could just buy them from contracts easily at any given time. But now I'm having issues with including BPC costs for e.g. pirate/faction ship BPCs, or the various items that can only be built from looted BPCs in general.
E.g. Stratios BPCs are about 200 million ISK in contracts for a 1-run 0/0 BPC (the only kind afaik).
I can set additional costs to that 200m in the Blueprints tab, save it, and it'll show in Blueprint Management, but in the Manufacturing List tab, the Total Costs column won't include it, in this case resulting in 200m false/extra profit showing.
Basically anything built off a similar BPC will end up at the top of the Manufacturing List.
Tried removing the BP from the owned category, and while I initially did have some trouble getting IPH to show any costs at all for it, and with having the Stratios BPC test case as favourite but not owned, I did get it at least showing the mineral etc. costs correctly, but no matter which combinations of owned, favourite and unowned I tried, I couldn't get the Stratios to include the Additional Cost in the Total Costs.
Am I missing something or is this a bug/missing feature? The additional cost does get added into the profit calculations on the Blueprints tab, just not on the Manufacturing List. |
Raker Plaude
Australian Belt Strippers Apocalypse Now.
12
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Posted - 2017.01.11 01:22:24 -
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Ram1g0 wrote:Is it possible to copy shopping list to eve notepad as hyperlinks (right click on it after paste)? atm it copies only as a text.
Does the autolink EVE function not work with this? Admittedly I've not tried it with multiple items at once, but you can right click on any text and the client will try to autolink it for you. |
Ram1g0
RU Industry
0
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Posted - 2017.01.11 06:24:57 -
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Raker Plaude wrote:Ram1g0 wrote:Is it possible to copy shopping list to eve notepad as hyperlinks (right click on it after paste)? atm it copies only as a text.
Does the autolink EVE function not work with this? Admittedly I've not tried it with multiple items at once, but you can right click on any text and the client will try to autolink it for you. No, copies as a simple text. https://gyazo.com/da09dcda3db726f697927497dc54347d
and if a have 30+ items its very hard to link all of them manually :) |
Vartan Sarkisian
Interstellar Nuclear Penguins Penguin Mafia.
205
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Posted - 2017.01.11 20:41:25 -
[2760] - Quote
Ram1g0 wrote:Raker Plaude wrote:Ram1g0 wrote:Is it possible to copy shopping list to eve notepad as hyperlinks (right click on it after paste)? atm it copies only as a text.
Does the autolink EVE function not work with this? Admittedly I've not tried it with multiple items at once, but you can right click on any text and the client will try to autolink it for you. No, copies as a simple text. https://gyazo.com/da09dcda3db726f697927497dc54347d and if a have 30+ items its very hard to link all of them manually :)
If the option is checked under settings then as far as I am aware it will only copy links in game from the copy to clipboard under manufacturing list and not the actual shopping list. I am not sure why but that is the only way I can get in game links to work
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