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CCP Guard wrote:

Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world.

- Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on.

- Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest.

- Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do.

- Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later.

- Public announcement forum was suggested. A place to post announcements to the read-only-rest-of-the-universe crowd. That's a nice suggestion that we'll take into consideration. We'd have to figure out a way to make it work so that not everyone sees announcements from a billion corps while still being useful as a broadcasting tool.

- Does the current ETA of corp forums have anything to do with Dust? Nope. If it does though, I'm being kept in the dark :(

- Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls.

Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.

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Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation Villore Accords 65	Posted - 2012.01.31 23:33:00 - [91] - Quote "choose who's planet".... This caught my eye since as far as I know we (pilots/corps/alliances) don't "own" any planets... Sure we have installations on the planet and maybe even a customs office in orbit around the planet, but if I'm not mistaken, ANYONE can set up on any planet, so can you elaborate at all on any new mechanics that might be brought in to "own" planets. Cheers.
ps3ud0nym United Highsec Front The 99 Percent 59	Posted - 2012.01.31 23:43:00 - [92] - Quote Some people dissing my earlier post who don't seem to understand what I am getting at. This isn't a Big Alliance vs. Small Corp deal. I want CCP to work on integration to help the SMALL corps and alliances. I am more than capable of maintaining my own IT infrastructure thank-you-very-much. What I want to see is CCP leveraging the tools that big alliances use in a way that is accessible by all. Almost universally the big successful alliances will have the following: - Forums - Teamspeak/Mumble - WIKI - Jabber - Auth (From Amazing: TEST, to handled through a forum plug-in) These tools are all available out of game and are not tied to your character. EVE Tools are generally terrible because they assume that if I am not logged in as ps3ud0nym, I don't want to talk to anyone one in my corp. As I spend much of my time on out of corp alts, this is more than a little annoying and makes things like EVE Voice completely useless. Why can't these tools and services be available right from CCP? Why do I have to buy a VPS or a Co-Located server in order to provide a functional IT environment to my members? Compared to creating a new forum with the development overhead that entails, providing integrated Jabber, WIKI, and TS is trivial! I would love to be able to go in-game or on EVE Gate to a site where I can set all this up and it reads from the API all controlled by CCP. Why can't I purchase Jabber services integrated with EVE from CCP hosted at Level 3? This is a great use for PLEX! CCP could easily charge for these services and provide them on-demand. I would also point out that they are likely able to charge more than your standard VPS provider as well (Return on investment would be higher than for a traditional deployment as they could charge say, 1 plex for each service/month with most customers utilizing 2 or more of the offered services you are charging more than most VPS providers.. and providing less with the value being in the integration with EVE giving small groups the tools the big groups use) The solution here is to make sure there is an easy and integrated solution that provides these tools to all players of EVE so that they don't have to have an IT department just to play a video game. Unless CCP is planning to rewrite Jabber, TS, WIKI and forum software from the ground up (Rather than working on spaceships) it simply is the development path that gives the most bang for the buck.
Smoke Adian 2	Posted - 2012.02.01 00:31:00 - [93] - Quote Jas Dor wrote: So this will allow CCP to spy on their player base so that they can finally get an idea what is happening in their own game. (Hint: Winners don't talk about RMT on a CCP sponsored forum). That said, DUST members in EvE corps, this could get interesting. As mentioned, they already said they don't care about the content, plus, if they really care much about that kind of stuff, 3/4 of EVE would already be banned based on what goes on in local chat.
Ordais DARK ORCHESTRA 2	Posted - 2012.02.01 06:14:00 - [94] - Quote Great stuff for smaller corps, thanks. BUT, we need ingame roles or forum settings to organize access to forum-subsections, not to mention beeing able to create them ourselves. Maybe i want someone to get access to FC-Subsections without giving them Director roles, thx.
Col Crunch Industrial Guardians of New Eden New Eden's Industrial Alliance 1	Posted - 2012.02.01 07:07:00 - [95] - Quote Are there plans any to extend this to alliances?
Jowen Datloran Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 292	Posted - 2012.02.01 07:35:00 - [96] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: -Liang Ed: I should probably just give up on my hatred of killboards... but I do so hate what they do to the society of the game. Too much risk averse, too much KM whoring, too much focus on ~stats~ and not enough on ~fun~. Blah. Don't worry. I got hate enough for us both. For nine years have e-peen swingers been whining about official killboards and for nine years have CCP recognized it for the craptastic idea it is. To change stance now is only a confirmation of a craptastic development within CCPs current management. Mr. Science & Trade Institute, EVE Online Lorebook-a
Dp Wiz Iron Hands Flight School 0	Posted - 2012.02.01 07:37:00 - [97] - Quote At long last! Now, please, give us XMPP and evegate interfaces for a chat rooms.
Tegho Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension 0	Posted - 2012.02.01 07:59:00 - [98] - Quote As cool as this is (and it is pretty cool), my first thought when reading it was "why would they add forums before a CCP run killboard?" Seriously, forums are pretty simple; the killboard systems out there are a giant fustercluck. The data for a server side killboard is already included in every character sheet.
Mournful Conciousness Special Situations TOHA Conglomerate 0	Posted - 2012.02.01 08:17:00 - [99] - Quote Feature Request: Please do consider including an alliance version as soon as possible. Please do give the ability to invite other non-alliance corps and alliances into subsections of the forum Please do give the ability to invite individual characters into sub sections of the forum. This would be most useful for us and other alliances we work with. CCP Guard wrote: Hey all! Nice feedback so far and some good suggestions overall. Looks like this new thing will be welcomed into the world. - Letting non-corp members into the forum is a suggestion some have mentioned. It won't be possible in the first version but I can see why that would be a nice option to have. Currently this is very much tied to corporation roles as they are what's used to determine access, but our web devs are crafty and I have a whip so we'll see what happens later on. - Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest. - Many have mentioned more flexibility in regards to roles, who can do what and where. That's definitely something we can play with once the forums are out and we've had time to learn what is needed and what is wanted, as well as what we can do. - Customizable channels or custom channels. Again, something that we can look at later when we know more. It's one of the options we discussed and decided to ponder upon later. - Public announcement forum was suggested. A place to post announcements to the read-only-rest-of-the-universe crowd. That's a nice suggestion that we'll take into consideration. We'd have to figure out a way to make it work so that not everyone sees announcements from a billion corps while still being useful as a broadcasting tool. - Does the current ETA of corp forums have anything to do with Dust? Nope. If it does though, I'm being kept in the dark :( - Stickies and polls. Stickies will be possible and I'll see about polls. Did I overlook something? Let me know if you've got further questions and I'll check in later. Right now my stomach is trying to convince me it's dinner time and It's making some pretty solid arguments.
Gevlin EXPCS Corp SpaceMonkey's Alliance 92	Posted - 2012.02.01 09:14:00 - [100] - Quote I can see this being really useful for small corps. Though I would recommend keeping it bare bones. If you try getting too fancy and put a lot of bells and whisles in it, its ease of use will be lost and this easy entry corp forums will be come a poorly implemented thing. Or if you do decide to all out on corp form. let a CEO gradually get access to the additional tools, either investing game skill points, or paying a Nominal isk fee to open up more of the corp ie 1 mill or a waiting period per option Just so the CEO just can't go hog wild become overwhelmed with out exploring and evaluating each option on its own merrits I would like to point out the Eve online skill point option. If everyone was able to fly a titan with in 1 month of playing many player would have quit in the first year. I agree with several people: CCP needs to focus most of eve's recources on FIS, but the development of WIS still needs to continue, just as a slower and more efficient pace. In eve I wish to be more than just a machine.

Dalton Vanadis Miranda United F0RCEFUL ENTRY 438	Posted - 2012.02.01 10:21:00 - [101] - Quote First, thank you guys for this, it looks to be a godsend for a lot of small and new corps without the capability to deploy some of their own web assets. If you're asking for future improvements or things to add, it might be to allow the CEO and maybe certain roles within the corporation to create sub-forums with allowed lists in the corp (I.e. - an industry sub-forum, wormhole, 0.0, sub-forums, etc.) Another potential area of expansion is to allow certain access to those sub-forums based on standings or allowed lists. So for example, two corps might be really buddy buddy on a certain venture, one CEO might be able to host a sub-forum on that venture and grant access to the other corp. Similar to channel creation and moderation currently in game. Otherwise sounds great an I can't wait to see how these develop over time.
Etil DeLaFuente New Eclipse Initiative Mercenaries 0	Posted - 2012.02.01 11:45:00 - [102] - Quote owzome !
Vera Algaert Republic University Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2012.02.01 11:46:00 - [103] - Quote Baneken wrote: Funny that people think that CCP couldn't spy on their eve-mails, chat channels and what else already from a server side should the need arise. Or that they think themselves so important that CCP would care enough to keep tabs on them. You decide if it's; pride, stupidity or just being paranoid ? I have seen bad racial slurs being used commonly on corp/alliance forums. I have seen "weird" (and depending on jurisdiction - illegal) pornography posted on corp/alliance forums. I have seen botting discussed openly on corp/alliance forums. I have seen players selling their EVE accounts to corp/alliance members before leaving the game. ... and I don't think the corporations/alliances I have been a member of were particularly "bad" in any of these regards. What happens if somebody takes offense to being called a colored candy-ass on the corp forums and petitions CCP about it? What happens if I link potentially illegal material or conspire for illegal activites (filesharing/piracy, huh) using the CCP-provided forums? What happens if I organize EVE EULA violations via the CCP-provided corp forums? I don't think it is outrageous to expect that CCP would take action if alerted to these things (and it just takes one disgruntled ex-member to alert them). In contrast to what you suggest people do self-censor what they say on in-game chat and OOG communications means like forums, IRC, jabber, ... allow them to speak their mind. Even if content from some OOG system were shown to CCP its authenticity would always be unverifiable to CCP (e.g. Vuk talking about RMT in genstab chat logs). CCP-provided forums are going to be different.
Magic Crisp Amarrian Micro Devices Silent Infinity 17	Posted - 2012.02.01 12:04:00 - [104] - Quote Would it be possible to automaticly send out an ingame corpmail when someone posts an announcement? Or even better, have the option, to send it out as a corpmail, include the link, so people can click-respond. Otherwise, it's awesome! Can we create childboards? :) Alliance forums? Granting access to our blueish friends? :)
Aquila Draco 107	Posted - 2012.02.01 12:39:00 - [105] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Mashie Saldana wrote: Nice, will you add a killboard next? An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course. Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that. Maybe better solution would be that killboard is added ingame. Maybe like a part of WiS with betting office connected to it...
Sered Woollahra No Fixed Abode LEGIO ASTARTES ARCANUM 10	Posted - 2012.02.01 18:27:00 - [106] - Quote Very nice, and a good start. Our corp has around 15 active members, so a place to share content without having to arrange an external forum access is much appreciated. Thanks! As this is "1.0", a suggestion: I'd like to see this grow to 'eve gate for the corp', including a public corp profile page that shows the content of the current information box, corp bulletins if so desired, and provides access to these forums of course. Integration with a killboard would be fantastic but I suspect this is a bit too much to ask :)
Samuel Laplante Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2012.02.01 20:06:00 - [107] - Quote Peni
doombreed52 Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore 5	Posted - 2012.02.01 21:30:00 - [108] - Quote I saw ACME and all i could think of was looney toons meep meep
Jattila Vrek Jitaanse Compagnie 0	Posted - 2012.02.01 22:23:00 - [109] - Quote I have multiple characters in different corporations. I read that CCP is also working on a 'master' Eve account that includes all your accounts and characters. Will it later be possible to view the forums of all corporations you have characters in without relogging? Will NPC corporations have their own forums?
Green J Smoker high times industries High Sec Dropouts 3	Posted - 2012.02.02 00:39:00 - [110] - Quote Quote: - Alliance forums are possible with some moderation to the framework we've already built and may become reality later if there's enough interest. I would like to see alliance added!!!

TetraEtc The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates 0	Posted - 2012.02.02 03:32:00 - [111] - Quote Jattila Vrek wrote: I have multiple characters in different corporations. I read that CCP is also working on a 'master' Eve account that includes all your accounts and characters. Will it later be possible to view the forums of all corporations you have characters in without relogging? Will NPC corporations have their own forums? I don't think NPC corps would have enough interest in forums... But they may get them automatically. Oh god, what a cess pit that would be www.tetraetc.com-a Official Eve online Fansite.-a Check it out womens.
Apocil Munar Whistle-Britches 0	Posted - 2012.02.02 04:14:00 - [112] - Quote Trying to run us eve related web-hosts out of business now are we? Apocil Munar, Owner EvE-Site Hosting CCP Guard wrote: I wrote some words on the internet about this new exciting thing we have coming to the EVE Forums. Please read the words here and give us your feedback on them in this thread. We're anxious to know what you all think and I'm sure my pals on the Web Team will be around to answer any questions you might have that are too complicated for someone as non-web-programmy as myself
Somatic Neuron Masterwork Productions Inc 15	Posted - 2012.02.02 05:23:00 - [113] - Quote Question: Every time the website goes down for maintenance, or we lose the API service after a patch, or during a patch, would we lose all Corp Forum access as well???
Blane Xero The Firestorm Cartel 4	Posted - 2012.02.02 06:15:00 - [114] - Quote Chribba wrote: To the blogging machine! Also, it will be pretty silent in my forum, any chance that I could open it up to other pilots that would just love to discuss Veldspar with me - without having to accept them into my corp? /c Can I join your corp so I can invade your forums? C'mon, you know you want to. Resident Haruhiist since December 2008. /OOPE/ Bittervet since 2006. I lay my claim upon Out of Pod Experience, plain and simple.
Marlona Sky EntroPrelatial Vanguard EntroPraetorian Aegis 413	Posted - 2012.02.02 09:07:00 - [115] - Quote CCP Guard wrote: Mashie Saldana wrote: Nice, will you add a killboard next? An official EVE killboard is a much discussed topic over here. No promises whatsoever, but it is being looked into and discussed as part of our plans moving forward. Along with a lot of other things of course. Don't quote me on that. Ok who am I kidding, there's even a button for quoting me on that. Please do an official EVE killboard. GVQ Flight of a Thousand Rifters: A Player Event
Skippermonkey Tactical Knightmare 391	Posted - 2012.02.02 13:32:00 - [116] - Quote Grey Stormshadow wrote: Get your priorities straight - FIX BBCODE PARSE ERROR WHICH % SIGNS CAUSE - ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS - FIX SIGNATURE EDITING TOOL - ALLOW US TO USE COLORED TEXT LIKE IN OLD FORUMS - ADD SUPPORT FUNCTION TO ASSEMBLY HALL LIKE IN OLD FORUMS - FIX SESSION TIMEOUT WHICH FREQUENTLY EATS (USUALLY TIME CONSUMING AND WELL WRITTEN) POSTS - ADD MORE CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS TO FORUM LAYOUT. AT LEAST LET US DISABLE SIDE BORDERS AND USE THE FULL WIDTH OF OUR SCREEN. GIVE US ALSO OPTION TO DISABLE THE BACKGROUND IMAGE. - LINK FORUM TOPIC LIST DEV/GM/CSM/ISD TAGS TO THEIR 1st POSTS IN THE THREADS. - GIVE US OPTION TO BROWSE THE FORUM WITHOUT JAVA LIKE IN OLD FORUMS. - MAKE SURE THAT POSSIBLE "GANKED" DOESN'T EAT POSTS. - ADD VOTING SYSTEM TO FORUM. AND THEN ADD YOUR CORPORATE FORUMS IF YOU STILL HAVE TIME! quoting to bump this post VOTE SKIPPERMONKEY FOR CSM - TERRIBAD AT EVE BUT GREAT AT FORUMS
Ki Rathos 196 MPAD Rising Phoenix Alliance 0	Posted - 2012.02.03 03:42:00 - [117] - Quote I have a few thoughts on this . 1, Every person on here complaining about rights / access management in game etc is ... Absolutely right. The management of member rights is an incredible pain. I use the Titles more than anything, which is nice. The management access setup is garbage and requires nearly a comp science degree to understand. Good thing i have one of them. This extends to the difficulty having an alliance POS where alliance can actually access things in the POS beyond the ship array. 2. Complaints about forum bugs being fixed are a good thing and will hopefully get CCP to fix the forum bugs, especially if they are going to implement corp / alliance forums. Which will likely drastically increase the traffic to the forums. 3. I run a fairly decent sized corp. I have a website with corp forums we havent touched in months. Just dont have time in real life, so this will probably be getting used by us. Alliance forums would be a must however. As i run one of them too, with a forum I also dont have time to manage. I am the IT guy in my corp / Alliance. 4. I would like to see some implimentation into the public area of the forums, say for example the recruiting area. In game there is a mechanic for recruiting. You post out a recruitment add for peeps in game to see. Why not have that duplicate out to the forums. One stop shop for recruiting posts. Maybe be able to bump them from in game. Just a thought. 5. I would also like to see a CCP killboard portion , as this is yet another feature we poorly maintain due to my lack of time. Corp and alliance KB would be best. 6. Can we have alliance bulletins open to alliance corp members and corp bulletins open to corp members . We currently use this to deciminate info instead of an outside forum that i dont have time to maintain. I do have time to maintain stuff in game , while im playing the game.
StarRanger 2ndClass Cadre Assault Force Initiative Mercenaries 8	Posted - 2012.02.04 10:51:00 - [118] - Quote Will there be an ingame part for this new forum function? I know we have the ingame browser but a more direct ingame part would be much effective for members of the corp. Lets say under the corp icon in the neocom as were the corp announcements (bulletins) are made also. Any thoughts on that, CCP Guard?
Hakaru Ishiwara Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 70	Posted - 2012.02.06 15:13:00 - [119] - Quote Maxwell Albritten wrote: Grey Stormshadow wrote: Get your priorities straight - FIX BBCODE PARSE ERROR WHICH % SIGNS CAUSE - ALLOW US TO POST IMAGES AND USE SIGNATURE IMAGES LIKE IN OLD FORUMS - FIX SIGNATURE EDITING TOOL - ALLOW US TO USE COLORED TEXT LIKE IN OLD FORUMS - ADD SUPPORT FUNCTION TO ASSEMBLY HALL LIKE IN OLD FORUMS - FIX SESSION TIMEOUT WHICH FREQUENTLY EATS (USUALLY TIME CONSUMING AND WELL WRITTEN) POSTS - ADD MORE CUSTOMIZATION OPTIONS TO FORUM LAYOUT. AT LEAST LET US DISABLE SIDE BORDERS AND USE THE FULL WIDTH OF OUR SCREEN. GIVE US ALSO OPTION TO DISABLE THE BACKGROUND IMAGE. - LINK FORUM TOPIC LIST DEV/GM/CSM/ISD TAGS TO THEIR 1st POSTS IN THE THREADS. - GIVE US OPTION TO BROWSE THE FORUM WITHOUT JAVA LIKE IN OLD FORUMS. - MAKE SURE THAT POSSIBLE "GANKED" DOESN'T EAT POSTS. - ADD VOTING SYSTEM TO FORUM. AND THEN ADD YOUR CORPORATE FORUMS IF YOU STILL HAVE TIME! Please ignore everything thing this guy just said. Ignore it all just to prove a point. Negative. Just had my post eaten by these forums. Again. Silly me forgot to copy and past before hitting "Post." I keep forgetting that these forums are special and neither save a draft of the post nor warn that others have posted new content while I'm composing a response. TL;DR - fix that which you have already published before basing new services upon defect-riddled code. 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters 284 Characters ~~284~~286
AnuQeiRo Sorry Guy Your Wife Forced Me 0	Posted - 2012.02.07 12:57:00 - [120] - Quote For when corporation forum??


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