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Balogh
Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl Proposing this concept here is like walking into a house full of bank robbers with an idea on how to better protect the vault.
From a CEO point of view, the concept you're proposing is to put everything in the vault, throw away the key, then raise the same amount of money to run the business.
Unless I'm missing something crucial here, no sane CEO is going to do that. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log |
Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Balogh
Originally by: Ufl Proposing this concept here is like walking into a house full of bank robbers with an idea on how to better protect the vault.
From a CEO point of view, the concept you're proposing is to put everything in the vault, throw away the key, then raise the same amount of money to run the business.
Unless I'm missing something crucial here, no sane CEO is going to do that.
You are. Learn how real exchanges work and it will all make sense. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Balogh
Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange
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Posted - 2007.12.18 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Balogh
Originally by: Ufl Proposing this concept here is like walking into a house full of bank robbers with an idea on how to better protect the vault.
From a CEO point of view, the concept you're proposing is to put everything in the vault, throw away the key, then raise the same amount of money to run the business.
Unless I'm missing something crucial here, no sane CEO is going to do that.
You are. Learn how real exchanges work and it will all make sense.
Real stock exchanges do not require underlying assets to be deposited by the corporation. In fact, the shares themselves are considered assets, as in almost every case there is no relation between the value of the underlying assets and the performance of the corporation. Only when a corporation is going to be liquidated do the underlying assets determine the share value. ________________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log |
Letias
Caldari Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl The only people who will dislike this concept: Scammers Thieves Competition
Right, you are an idoit, i only invest, so i cant be a scammer or a thief and i have no intrest in running a stock exchange nor am i part of one so all of the titles you have posted are wrong. I am against this because you are a douchebag and you just seem to be a troll.
Not only has this taken five more pages in which you don't actually bother to answer questions or change your plan to actually work, you have begun insulting people because you are wrong. This looks like a scam now, it did not to begin with, it looked like a bad idea. You look like a scammer, one that hasnt gotten his own way i can only imagine how you get along with people in RL but i would hazard a guess you are a complete loner as if you are wrong or someone thinks you are you lash out.
Either im being baited by a troll or you really are this thick but i hope no one has actually invested in you and no one does. yes im sure you will say wait and see but as it stand you and this corp are ******. _____________________________
Originally by: Damini Frostmane Sex isn't sex unless one of you is crying afterwards :-)
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.12.19 02:37:00 -
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Originally by: Matalino We care because an excess of threads on a single topic makes it harder to find threads on topics for worthwhile ventures.
Fixed a bit. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |
Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.19 09:24:00 -
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We knew it was a scam within an hour of his offering when one of his said participating corporations posted to say they had no knowledge of him whatsoever.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE! |
Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic We knew it was a scam within an hour of his offering when one of his said participating corporations posted to say they had no knowledge of him whatsoever.
Ric,
I think you are confusing some OP's. I think what you are remebering is the "bankofeve" thread, where he claimed to have the support of directors in a 0.0 corp.
I am pretty sure that Ulf never gave any specifics for any supposed participating corporations that there could have actually been some one to come back and refute such claims. --
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Ricdic
Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:16:00 -
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Ahh ok, I retract my post then :)
One says they are endorsed by a person who says "no we aren't related" Other says they are endorsed by people who don't seem to exist.
Dunno which is worse
thanks for the heads up tho
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE! |
Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.19 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic Ahh ok, I retract my post then :)
One says they are endorsed by a person who says "no we aren't related" Other says they are endorsed by people who don't seem to exist.
Dunno which is worse
thanks for the heads up tho
no worries, its my anal retentive memory FTW --
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YouGotRipped
Gallente Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2007.12.26 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: YouGotRipped on 26/12/2007 15:19:52
I've stopped reading at page 2...
So the plan is flawed and others pointed that out, however... this is a genuine scam. The first concern of any scammer would be to disipate any presumtion of scamming on his behalf. As such our candidate here mentioned the fact that he's been talking to Hexxx on the phone quite a few times. Hahah Shrewd but not good enough. Then he's extremely persistent. He knows that he has little to lose compared to the gains if he succeeds in convincing you.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.12.26 17:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Balogh
Originally by: Ufl Proposing this concept here is like walking into a house full of bank robbers with an idea on how to better protect the vault.
From a CEO point of view, the concept you're proposing is to put everything in the vault, throw away the key, then raise the same amount of money to run the business.
Unless I'm missing something crucial here, no sane CEO is going to do that.
You are. Learn how real exchanges work and it will all make sense.
UFL, please explain to us how "real exchanges" work. I challenge you to list in detail how they work. If you can do that you will pass my test. No copying and pasting from wikipedia please.
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Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.12.31 09:54:00 -
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in case the OP is still around... care to answer 1 question or 2 ?
lets assume so and post them.... altough i have the feeling there will be no answer...
why did i got banned from the NUEX IG channel ?
may i assume that the OP (that would be you Ufl) is allergic to constructive critics ? even worst, are ANY kind of oppinions (but is own) anathema to you ?
you advertisement skill are lacking, your interpersonal skills (at least game wise) are imho faulty, your capacity to improve an idea you had according to market desires is at best VERY faulty.
if you conduct youself that way (behaving like a spoiled brat that hasnt been given his new toy despite several warnings) how do you expect ANY person to judge yourself a trusworthy CEO or business man ?
the ban was pure critic intolerance behaviour, if one does not agreee unconditionally with you then their oppinions are not wanted, is that it ?
have a nice day
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Amarr Citizen 155
Alternative Methods Research Group New Eden Research
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Posted - 2007.12.31 10:24:00 -
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If everyone would stop wasting their time with this guy the universe would be a better place and we could all have legos to play with but not the crappy legos that are difficult to build stuff with I mean the legos that come in packs that give you instructions on how to build ships and planes and castles and other things that are really cool and not really stupid like this exchange.....
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Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Pax Atlantis
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Posted - 2007.12.31 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 If everyone would stop wasting their time with this guy the universe would be a better place and we could all have legos to play with but not the crappy legos that are difficult to build stuff with I mean the legos that come in packs that give you instructions on how to build ships and planes and castles and other things that are really cool and not really stupid like this exchange.....
what legos ? the really really cool ones that allow to buld planes and castles and things or the average cool ones that allow to build cars and houses and farms, those are a bit better than the crappy legos that are difficuly to build stuff and not so very entertaining, at least compared to the really cool and average cool legos that aloow for lots of cool buildings.... as for NUEX.... i still havnt decided if i should laugh or cry (of laughing so much....)...
anyway....lego time.... |
Trilori
Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs
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Posted - 2007.12.31 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Letias
Originally by: Ufl The only people who will dislike this concept: Scammers Thieves Competition
Right, you are an idoit, i only invest, so i cant be a scammer or a thief and i have no intrest in running a stock exchange nor am i part of one so all of the titles you have posted are wrong. I am against this because you are a douchebag and you just seem to be a troll.
Not only has this taken five more pages in which you don't actually bother to answer questions or change your plan to actually work, you have begun insulting people because you are wrong. This looks like a scam now, it did not to begin with, it looked like a bad idea. You look like a scammer, one that hasnt gotten his own way i can only imagine how you get along with people in RL but i would hazard a guess you are a complete loner as if you are wrong or someone thinks you are you lash out.
Either im being baited by a troll or you really are this thick but i hope no one has actually invested in you and no one does. yes im sure you will say wait and see but as it stand you and this corp are ******.
Thick?! dang he is thicker than my BLOOD!! Hah he banned several people from his channel (myself and Assens Letta for undubious reasons heh!)
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Trilori
Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs
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Posted - 2007.12.31 13:53:00 -
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Originally by: Amarr Citizen 155 If everyone would stop wasting their time with this guy the universe would be a better place and we could all have legos to play with but not the crappy legos that are difficult to build stuff with I mean the legos that come in packs that give you instructions on how to build ships and planes and castles and other things that are really cool and not really stupid like this exchange.....
Its ok nobody is wasting their time, Assens especially. He already shot himself in the foot a week ago... he has lost a battle and his ideas run into the ground thanks to the support of the EVE community his IG chat room is DEAD he has no supporters but his ALTS (lolzzzzzz!!!!)
I can count that he has at LEAST 4 alts. Oh!!! btw!!! He wanted collateral for a 50% down payment on 62M worth of veld and the only collateral he would accept was veld in the first place LMAO!!!!! You think I take any of this seriously???? Heck NO!!!
RESX is the winner, you go Balogh!
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
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Posted - 2007.12.31 14:23:00 -
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With exerpts of chatlogs like this from Nucon how can I ever hope to compete on their level:
[ 2007.12.27 03:37:27 ] Lin Li > need more creative ideas ric?
[ 2007.12.27 03:37:33 ] Lin Li > to expand ebank? i dont think you have it in you to keep that thing going
[ 2007.12.27 03:38:16 ] Lin Li > Need some coding done for your new stock exchange you're working on? the UI sucks btw
[ 2007.12.27 03:39:13 ] Lin Li > i cant wait, you are going to try to catch up, and when you do im going to take 3 more steps ahead of ebank :D [ 2007.12.27 03:40:33 ] Lin Li > First you need to finish that crappy stock trading program, then you can continue to take our ideas and turn them into your own.
[ 2007.12.27 03:42:19 ] Lin Li > You're ideas suck, your motivation is lacking, and your entire bank is replicatable in a day
[ 2007.12.27 03:44:53 ] Lin Li > so ric, how are you planning on increasing traffic to ebanks website? any seo work?
[ 2007.12.27 03:45:06 ] Lin Li > i dont see ebank on google its sad...
[ 2007.12.27 03:50:37 ] Lin Li > forums are filled with whiners, teenagers etc
[ 2007.12.27 04:07:06 ] Lin Li > cant give in to them (forum people) - building a service that will be flawless
[ 2007.12.27 04:16:59 ] Lin Li > Euronext is a real US exchange
Thought you guys might enjoy. This is the fun you can get in the NUEX channel in-game. (didnt bother with my replies as they don't have quite the same coolness) *Bracketed parts have been inputted by myself
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.12.31 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: EBANK Ricdic [ 2007.12.27 03:42:19 ] Lin Li > You're ideas suck, your motivation is lacking, and your entire bank is replicatable in a day
QFT. He's really got your number there Ricdic.
Originally by: EBANK Ricdic [ 2007.12.27 03:45:06 ] Lin Li > i dont see ebank on google its sad...
Well damn, now you're going to have to find something else to do with your days than sitting around Googling yourself...
At this point, Ulf can't be serious about this anymore? I mean... it's just him sitting in a channel by himself and Googling himself to pass the sad, lonely time. (The one and only person who cares to Google themselves, at that.) _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |
Trilori
Caldari GearBox Fleet Svcs
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Posted - 2007.12.31 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Trilori on 31/12/2007 14:38:40
Originally by: EBANK Ricdic With exerpts of chatlogs like this from Nucon how can I ever hope to compete on their level:
[ 2007.12.27 03:37:27 ] Lin Li > need more creative ideas ric?
[ 2007.12.27 03:37:33 ] Lin Li > to expand ebank? i dont think you have it in you to keep that thing going
[ 2007.12.27 03:38:16 ] Lin Li > Need some coding done for your new stock exchange you're working on? the UI sucks btw
[ 2007.12.27 03:39:13 ] Lin Li > i cant wait, you are going to try to catch up, and when you do im going to take 3 more steps ahead of ebank :D [ 2007.12.27 03:40:33 ] Lin Li > First you need to finish that crappy stock trading program, then you can continue to take our ideas and turn them into your own.
[ 2007.12.27 03:42:19 ] Lin Li > You're ideas suck, your motivation is lacking, and your entire bank is replicatable in a day
[ 2007.12.27 03:44:53 ] Lin Li > so ric, how are you planning on increasing traffic to ebanks website? any seo work?
[ 2007.12.27 03:45:06 ] Lin Li > i dont see ebank on google its sad...
[ 2007.12.27 03:50:37 ] Lin Li > forums are filled with whiners, teenagers etc
[ 2007.12.27 04:07:06 ] Lin Li > cant give in to them (forum people) - building a service that will be flawless
[ 2007.12.27 04:16:59 ] Lin Li > Euronext is a real US exchange
Thought you guys might enjoy. This is the fun you can get in the NUEX channel in-game. (didnt bother with my replies as they don't have quite the same coolness) *Bracketed parts have been inputted by myself
Hahaha!!! I remember this convo! (btw just anyone wondering, this really did happen and I vouch ric's logs cuz I was there)
I don't log chats not because I don't want to have proof its because I think its silly to find thousands of log files or logs appended to the same file /sigh
I had an interesting conversation the other day with UFL which got me banned.
He asked if I had advertised "NEWCON" and I gave him one of my smart alec replies "what do you think? the answer is in itself already" (I had already withdrew GBFS from associating with NUCON by the time he had asked that couple days ago)
And so he again asked a question if I had done anything to support the community growth and he wanted a yes or no answer and my simple LMFAO answer was....
"Oh yes!!! I sure did!! SADLY it didn't INCLUDE NUCON!!!" and that was the end lol.
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