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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.25 01:52:00 -
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Now that it seems clear EveTV is dead except for the occasional 'special', I would like to put forth the following assertion: CCP should fund the revitalization of EveTV in the coming year. Also, EveTV should retain their current format. Namely, weekly shows with extra shows reflecting extra-special events.
Further, EveTV should remain essentially as is was. That is, same hosts, same production crew, and the same sets. It seems a good format and was just achieving 'maturity' when MMM had to cancel for a dearth of revenue.
EvETV had just hit its stride. They had successfully shrugged off the earlier valid complaints about production value, presentation quality and relevance. Instead, EveTV has, as of the last 6 episodes, evolved into a fan driven but professionally presented Eve-related show that I think and believe can continue to evolve into an excellent representation of what Eve is in general. Namely, a niche product that nonetheless presents the views of many potential subscribers and provides seriously entertaining segments for existing Eve players.
Obviously, EveTV needs to advertise itself more for the players (I have to take several steps to get EveTV whenever I want to view it, despite knowing that it exists... it needs a direct link, tbh) and it also needs to partially support itself via ad revenue that actually displays for all viewers of EveTV (I have never seen an ad myself, though I'm told they exist... that must be ironed out for ALL users, just as network TV ensures all viewers are exposed to the revenue stream). Also, a Paypal button would also be a possibility to keep a free show in the 'black'. Many people DO donate if given the chance.
CCP, if EveTV is properly advertised with appropriate revenue garnering advertisements and with a ton of EveTV links paired with most mentions of Eve-Online, it would would go a long way towards not just paying for EveTV but also promoting Eve Online. The EveTV hosts and features provide 'hooks' and 'characters' for people to form positive opinions about Eve Online. That can only be good in attracting new subscibers or retaining older subscribers in Eve.
EveTV provides another avenue of providing Eve Online to generate revenue.
I strongly encourage you to directly fund EveTV now and in the future. It's good for Eve. Save EveTV [url"http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=643554"]Sign to make CCP Fund EveTV[/url] |
Sirex007
Sons of Tangra
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Posted - 2007.11.25 02:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sirex007 on 25/11/2007 02:00:13 yeah posting with my main for once.
evetv was great.
/signed.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.25 02:21:00 -
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/Signed
the show really got better as it went on. Don't be like Fox CCP, fund it, love it, broadcast it
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Demtalin le'Mercennaire
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.25 02:39:00 -
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/signed
I agree that EVE TV has become a well run, informative show which I look forward to each week. They have a dynamic team who work well together and as such, should be retained.
I've learnt alot about EVE from this show, and I use it as my main source of keeping up with EVE current events.
But most importantly, EVE TV helps to get you immersed in the game. I found the show aids in making EVE feel like another reality, or another world, rather than just somewhere we can go after work to relax. Isn't that what CCP wants?
Please fund this show CCP -------- Sign this petition to save EVE TV |
xeom
Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.25 02:40:00 -
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/signed
I really dont care if I have to click 20 banner ads before the show starts just make the **** happen. --- *signature removed - please email us to find out why (include a link) - Jacques([email protected]) -Videos- Viciously Delicious
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.11.25 02:43:00 -
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The problem with evetv being funded by ccp is that they might not then have as much freedom as they do being independent. I don't want evetv to be about selling eve or to just be a marketing tool. I think a big reason it's so good is that that's not what it is.
/signed though, if that's what's needed.
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Jaikar Isillia
Garoun Investment Bank
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Posted - 2007.11.25 02:46:00 -
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/signed
I just started to really watch EVE TV and found it entertaining.
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GO MaZ
Spartan Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.25 03:10:00 -
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I agree, even though I didn't watch every week it's no doubt beneficial for the game as a whole.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.25 03:28:00 -
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Originally by: Frug The problem with evetv being funded by ccp is that they might not then have as much freedom as they do being independent. I don't want evetv to be about selling eve or to just be a marketing tool. I think a big reason it's so good is that that's not what it is.
/signed though, if that's what's needed.
yah I saw that coming, and tbh... CCP is vulgar and rancid... far more than EveTV has ever been (other than their 'credits'... even there, CCP is far more obscene). Further, Eve-o Forums are much more abusive to CCP than EveTv has ever been. If CCP funds the show, I sorta doubt it would be more inflammatory than it already is. They can always insure limits that are already upheld.
So, I don't think freedom is an issue :)
Save EveTV, please. Sign to ask CCP to fund EveTV! |
Wloire
Macabre Votum Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.25 03:35:00 -
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/signed
EVETV had just hit its stride and everything felt comfortable. It is the small things like this that make EVE more then other MMO's.
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Rai Deo
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.11.25 03:38:00 -
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/signed
EveTV was getting really good and gathering much momentum. It became one of the few shows I look forward to each week. :)
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Vandervecken Smith
White-Noise Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.11.25 04:07:00 -
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/signed
Eve TV is excellent, and I would be happy to pay for it if it weren't on a pay-per-view model. Come back to us!
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Soulsist
Gallente Darklite inc Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.11.25 04:24:00 -
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EveTV was a big factor for a few of my friends coming to the game. It set the game apart from others like WOW, and gave the impression that Online games could be about more then half naked dancing cartoons, and 12 year olds screaming over voice coms. I enjoyed the show, and paid for it when it was on Jalipo. Its very interesting to me how much player driven content there is for this game, Out of game tools, Everadio, pod casts, our own webcomic, an Eve magazine, and EveTV.
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Brunswick2
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.25 05:09:00 -
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/signed
EVE TV is just plain awesome.
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Retsil Evad
Caldari Task Force Zener Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.11.25 05:46:00 -
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/signed.
And here is an idea. Put a line in your forum sig calling for the return of Eve TV.
============== Office use ONLY ==============
BRING BACK EVE TV!!!!!!! |
Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.25 05:51:00 -
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/sign
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Kushion
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Posted - 2007.11.25 06:14:00 -
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/signed
Better advertisment would go a long way to making it pay for itself.
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James Damar
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.11.25 06:22:00 -
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Signed I need my weekly fix of Stevie and EVE! |
Able Citizen
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.25 06:46:00 -
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EVETV is worth saving.
EVE is a very special community and it needs this form of mass communication to help keep the game in context. It has unlimited possibilities as well.
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Maraner
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.25 06:59:00 -
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/signed
I paid for this tv show before it became free ( cheers CCP, well done and thanks )and have greatly enjoyed it. Please CCP think about the options on funding, there must be some buisness model which would work.
------------------------------------- yeah , this looks easy I'll just spend an hour or so a week...... |
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Avalon Champion
Gene Works AKA-AHN KINGDOM
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Posted - 2007.11.25 07:17:00 -
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/signed
EVE Tv was a good show, and it kept people upto date with the latest politcal news, without having to wade through the crap that is CAOD.
As most have said, EveTv was just starting to mature, and become a cohesive format. Possibly they could have had live links to other players in the world, or even recorded interviews with the likes of Seleene, and Sir Molle, possibly arranged to cover 'War zones' and got fraps from a few engagements.
I already miss StevieSG's singing after the credits
Good luck to all those that made EVE Tv what it was.
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EntroX
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.25 08:30:00 -
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/signed
Don't leave poor Spiral without a job
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.25 08:57:00 -
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Wow, I'm really encouraged by the response, tbh. If every person thus far who has responded to this thread spread the word via a signature or by referring people to posting a /signed in this thread, I think we'd be on to something.
CCP, please give EveTV some love!
Save EveTV, please. Sign to ask CCP to fund EveTV! |
Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.25 09:10:00 -
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oh, and I actually petitioned CCP's Marketing division with this:
"Hi there, I believe this to be an appropriate area for my petiton, despite its seemingly tangential subject heading. Further, it will at least be viewed by someone.
My petition concerns CCPs visibility and promotion of the game.
I have watched EveTV since it went free and imo it serves as an excellent 'draw' for new and old players alike. Further, it could with a small amount of advertising and promotion effort by CCP, be a draw for unresolved trial players that are still undecided.
Frankly, the 'hard' work has already been done by MMM; the sets, the hosts, the informal atmosphere paired with a quasi-professional presentation. Further, the topics, even when they are potentially inflammatory, are still handled with humour and a minimum of bias.
In short, EveTV has a good team that represents Eve well, adds excellent flavour and succeeds in being humorous and informative at the same time. A major benefit in my eyes, to be honest.
Guys, you need to buy the rights to EveTV and produce it. Then advertise the crap out of it.. the benefits will not only be retention of players, but (supposing you disseminate the product well enough), a big draw for new payers from the major websites like Warcry etc.
Present a HUMAN face in Eve and players will give you the benefit of the doubt when they encounter the tutorial or try to pilot a cruiser after 2 weeks...
Come on... a 'small' investment into EveTV (it can't be THAT expensive) makes for a bigger and better Eve..."
Perhaps you guys should think of similar methods if you feel as strongly as I do?
Save EveTV, please. Sign to ask CCP to fund EveTV! |
MasterDecoy
Gallente Mass Impetus
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Posted - 2007.11.25 09:39:00 -
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/signed (first time and last time i write this)
but to all the people who signed here, i wonder exactly how many actually bought jalipo credits to watch it.
Originally by: Evilempire1 good, im pentitioning you for slandering.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.11.25 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: MasterDecoy /signed (first time and last time i write this)
but to all the people who signed here, i wonder exactly how many actually bought jalipo credits to watch it.
Thanks for the hesitant bump, MasterDecoy :)
I don't think purchasing credits = passion for a product (or at least is the only reliable way of measuring interest). An ad-driven but 'free' model works for broadcast tv... I think it would work for EveTV too... (or at least partially offset production costs).
Thanks for the nudge nonetheless.
Save EveTV, please. Sign to ask CCP to fund EveTV! |
Kurt Armstrong
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.25 09:53:00 -
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/signed
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Mangala Solaris
Caldari Sanctuary Aegis Consortium
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Posted - 2007.11.25 10:06:00 -
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/signed.
We'd like more EVE TV in pretty much the same format as we have had, the show just got better as the presenters and we the community got more comfortable with it being more than just already excellent tournament coverage. -------
Sanctuary
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Killer2
Amarr The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.25 10:38:00 -
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/signed
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John Quicksilver
Caldari The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.11.25 10:49:00 -
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/signed
Evetv can be an incredibly wonderful tool not only for marketing Eve to new players but for keeping the old players interested.
So please CCP, buy up evetv and you can make new banner adverts out of the show which would be pretty sweet
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