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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.25 06:51:00 -
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Edited by: Safel Nastra on 25/11/2007 06:50:52
I'm up for auction \o/
This char has many of the prerequisite skills needed for invention, research, and building of tech II items and ships. In addition she can fly minmatar haulers and will have mass production V by the end of auction. She isn't specialized for invention yet (no racial encryption plugged in) so is very flexible in this respect and within a day of training can invent whatever the buyer desires. With a few more hours of training she can build the tech II items from bpc's that she invented with perfect build. She'll make a great ISK-earner char for whoever gets her
inEVE skill chart
Safel has no standings with NPC corps and never has been in a player corporation. She's got positive wallet balance, no kill rights, and security status of zero.
Start bid: 800 mil Minimum bid increment: 80 mil Buyout: 1.6 bil Auction end day and time: Sunday Dec 2nd at 20:00 EVE time (8pm GMT, 3pm EST)
This will also be the character to receive money for the sale. I will pay the character transfer fee.
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Inmate 9818783
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Posted - 2007.11.25 12:06:00 -
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I'll open the bid @ 800m
Not really a research char yet though is it? And it can't invent anything.
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Freeman Lowell
Dark-Rising Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.11.25 12:56:00 -
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Ok so I pay u the isk and then you transfer the char to me.... SO get my money back!!!
Nope I dont think thats the ruling being honest!!! SAounds like a scam to me!
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.25 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Freeman Lowell Ok so I pay u the isk and then you transfer the char to me.... SO get my money back!!! Nope I dont think thats the ruling being honest!!! SAounds like a scam to me!
You transfer ISK to this character. Right before I transfer the character to your account Safel transfers the money to one of my characters. And then I pay the transfer fee and she lands on your account. I get the ISK and you get the char. I've done this before and it really is as simple as it sounds.
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Samuel Freedom
Minmatar Ramdon Industries corporation
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Posted - 2007.11.25 23:20:00 -
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I don't understand, why not just trf the ISK directly to your other char like everyone else does ? It does seem a bit strange.
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.25 23:49:00 -
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Originally by: Samuel Freedom I don't understand, why not just trf the ISK directly to your other char like everyone else does ? It does seem a bit strange.
I have reasons I want to do it this way and if it seems very suspicious to you please either give me a good explanation of why you would have any reservations at all or don't bid. My intention is to have as smooth transaction as possible, hence why I did everything in my post according to the rules.
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.26 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Safel Nastra on 26/11/2007 00:24:55
Originally by: Inmate 9818783
Not really a research char yet though is it?
She has Lab Ops V, Metallurgy V, Science V, Research V, Networking II. She can make BPO copies at max speed (something you'd need for invention), ME and PE research on BPOs at max speed, run 6 research/copying jobs, start them up remotely, and if you train it for just three days another three jobs or 9 jobs in total. How is this not a research character?
Originally by: Inmate 9818783
And it can't invent anything.
I have stated in my post that she will be able to invent in 1 day of training. She has all of the following skills that are prerequisite to invention, all of these really long and boring level V skills already trained for you: Electronics V Engineering V Electronics Upgrades V Science V Hacking II If you look at other skills she'd need to do invention you'll see that she's capable of it in less than 1 day of training. Also I don't know what it is that you want to invent. Depending on what you want, she will need different skills plugged in, and it is up to the buyer to decide in which direction to train her next.
In addition to all the really long invention skills trained, she has Mechanic V, Industry V, Frigate Construction V, Cruiser Construction IV prerequisite skills to build from tech II BPCs/PBOs of ships and items. She also builds with no waste in materials due to skill (Production Efficiency V) and can run 6 jobs (Mass Production V by end of auction) or, if you train her for 1 day more, she'll be able to run 3 more production jobs if you need them.
lol, looking over all of this now I feel like I wanna keep her :P and i would have but I have to cut down on amount of characters i own due to lack of time to play with them
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RGB InSpades
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Posted - 2007.11.26 00:29:00 -
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Sounds way too pricy. Exactly how many Skills and skill points?
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.26 00:37:00 -
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Edited by: Safel Nastra on 26/11/2007 00:46:52
Originally by: RGB InSpades Sounds way too pricy. Exactly how many Skills and skill points?
Click on inEVE link in original post. Invention/research characters have been selling for much more than this. I browsed previous auctions and priced her very reasonably. Look at those auctions and see for yourself. Also consider that if i keep her, she'll make me the buyout money in the next month if i play with her ;)
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RGB InSpades
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Posted - 2007.11.26 00:50:00 -
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http://ineve.net/skills/personal_stats.php?charID=MTExNjQ4NjQ1Mw%3D%3D
shows you are only worth 20M at best. and 4 months of time .... you are not even close to 800M isk.
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.26 01:19:00 -
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Originally by: RGB InSpades http://ineve.net/skills/personal_stats.php?charID=MTExNjQ4NjQ1Mw%3D%3D
shows you are only worth 20M at best. and 4 months of time .... you are not even close to 800M isk.
you have no idea how to price characters do you? hint: before posting do some research on completed character auctions
look at this 2.7 mil sp character auction, according to you he's worth 16 mil, according to people who know how to price characters he got a 600 mil buyout offer
look at this 6 mil pvp char auction, according to you he is only worth 43 mil, according to people who know how to price characters he received 2.5 billion buyout the same day (and he's not even going to be making as much money as invention char can)
and look at this invention char auction, according to you he is worth 338 mil but according to people who know how to price character he got a 4.5b buyout in one day which per 1 mil sp is much more expensive than mine
like i said do some research first because you posts look very silly and uninformed
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RGB InSpades
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Posted - 2007.11.26 01:24:00 -
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do you have these?
- Esoteric Date interface - Esoteric Ship interface
you don't advertise as having them. .. you are not worth the cost.
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DeODokktor
Dark Templars The Fonz Presidium
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Posted - 2007.11.26 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Safel Nastra
look at this 2.7 mil sp character auction, according to you he's worth 16 mil, according to people who know how to price characters he got a 600 mil buyout offer
That guy sold his alt to his alt :).. it's called artificial bumping (and not really selling it when there were no real bids.
Originally by: Safel Nastra
look at this 6 mil pvp char auction, according to you he is only worth 43 mil, according to people who know how to price characters he received 2.5 billion buyout the same day (and he's not even going to be making as much money as invention char can)
I would say that the auction you list there should be reported to GM's.. The guy who paid 2.5b for that char sold a 14.5m sp char only afew days earlier for 3b (hmmmmm)
Originally by: Safel Nastra
and look at this invention char auction, according to you he is worth 338 mil but according to people who know how to price character he got a 4.5b buyout in one day which per 1 mil sp is much more expensive than mine
That one shows some lovely Interfaces coming with the auction ;)..
Originally by: Safel Nastra
like i said do some research first because you posts look very silly and uninformed
Tho I dont think your price is bad (I mean, you have had the hassle of a new char). Defending an auction with a fake auction, a HIGHLY questionable auction (I suspect it was someone selling isk and trying to make it look legit or sumsum), and an auction that came with nice assets is probably not the way to go..
Tell everyone "This is my auction, This is my price, Take it or go away"
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.26 02:56:00 -
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hello troll :)
Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: Safel Nastra look at this 2.7 mil sp character auction, according to you he's worth 16 mil, according to people who know how to price characters he got a 600 mil buyout offer
That guy sold his alt to his alt :).. it's called artificial bumping (and not really selling it when there were no real bids.
Yes of course. He put it up for auction and sold it the next day to his alt because obviously he could not wait longer than 1 day for bids. The character hasn't been put up for sale since. Right, that's very logical ;) (i mean to say what you're saying is total bull****).
Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: Safel Nastra look at this 6 mil pvp char auction, according to you he is only worth 43 mil, according to people who know how to price characters he received 2.5 billion buyout the same day (and he's not even going to be making as much money as invention char can)
I would say that the auction you list there should be reported to GM's.. The guy who paid 2.5b for that char sold a 14.5m sp char only afew days earlier for 3b (hmmmmm)
Perhaps he sold off a character that was worser and bought a character that is better? You know people have been known to do that. I've have often seen characters will more skills points sell for less than characters with fewer skills points. Only someone who has never browsed completed auctions or someone who would troll to lower the price would suggest what you're suggesting.
Originally by: DeODokktor
Originally by: Safel Nastra and look at this invention char auction, according to you he is worth 338 mil but according to people who know how to price character he got a 4.5b buyout in one day which per 1 mil sp is much more expensive than mine
That one shows some lovely Interfaces coming with the auction ;)..
Mine is selling for much cheaper than his ;)
Originally by: DeODokktor Tho I dont think your price is bad (I mean, you have had the hassle of a new char). Defending an auction with a fake auction, a HIGHLY questionable auction (I suspect it was someone selling isk and trying to make it look legit or sumsum), and an auction that came with nice assets is probably not the way to go..
Yes, horrible, unbearable 1 week of hassle with cheap character selling for prices that other real characters have sold for, with me doing nothing against the posted sale rules ... i'm definitely doing something wrong (sarcasm implied).
Man, if you want to buy a good char for 100 mil why don't you just say so rather than troll my post and accuse other honest people of putting up fake auctions?
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Safel Nastra
Minmatar Republic University
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Posted - 2007.11.26 03:10:00 -
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Auction closed due to high amount of trolling in this thread -- people who don't bother to read CCP's character sales rules and scream "scam" without thinking any time they see just a bit of something out of the ordinary, buyers who think character's worth is only combined worth of the skills it has plugged in forget the time and money that went into the training, and trolls who post total bs and accuse other character sellers of faked and dishonest auctions without any proof -- thanks to all of you for taking the time and effort to ruin my sale.
I also feel like I haven't been descriptive enough in my original sales post. I will recreate an auction post a little bit later.
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Inmate 9818783
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Posted - 2007.11.26 06:23:00 -
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Soz mate, my comments weren't meant as a troll, I was referring to research with agents and your post was quite explicit that the char had lot's of prereqs for invention.
I just hadn't bother to read properly due to a Sunday morning hangover.
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