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Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:08:00 -
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Why o Why - its 0.0 for god sake, its supposed to be the badlands, why is there agression times on gates and stations! And you get agression timer even when you wasnt the first to engage meaning you cant jump or dock!
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:13:00 -
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Edited by: Reem Fairchild on 26/11/2007 16:14:20 It's not a criminal flagging like you get in empire. It's just to force you to commit to a fight. Otherwise, if you could fight and then jump or dock immediately as soon as you start losing, it allows for some extremely lame tactics. (Which are already possible, just more difficult.)
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Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:14:00 -
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Yeah i know, its just a pain when you cant get away, especially if you didnt agress
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Atrelle
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Yeah i know, its just a pain when you cant get away, especially if you didnt agress
If someone agresses you in 0.0, you can dock or jump. If you agress someone, or shoot back in retaliation you cannot jump or dock.
From your quote above it seems that you mean you cannot log off if you have been agressed. :/
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Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:18:00 -
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Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/11/2007 16:20:19
Quote: If you agress someone, or shoot back in retaliation you cannot jump or dock.
Exactly so basically you try to protect yourself and you get penalised for that WTF! So you get ganked by a camp try for life to get to the gate, but in the meantime defending yourself, only to find you cant jump cos you did that..somethings not right with that
FYI i dont log off ever..infact it doesnt make a difference anymore.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Yeah i know, its just a pain when you cant get away, especially if you didnt agress
You mean if you didn't shoot first. Being shot at doesn't keep you from using gate or stations, but if you return fire, then you're aggressed.
But there's also aggression in the sense of being stuck in space if you log off, and for that to happen someone only needs to use an offensive module of some kind on you before you log out. If that happens then your ship will stay in space for 15 minutes after you log off (whether you fired at anyone or not).
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Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:25:00 -
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Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/11/2007 16:25:47
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Yeah i know, its just a pain when you cant get away, especially if you didnt agress
You mean if you didn't shoot first. Being shot at doesn't keep you from using gate or stations, but if you return fire, then you're aggressed.
But there's also aggression in the sense of being stuck in space if you log off, and for that to happen someone only needs to use an offensive module of some kind on you before you log out. If that happens then your ship will stay in space for 15 minutes after you log off (whether you fired at anyone or not).
Yeah sorry what i meant is that if you dont agress initially, not, not at all..
All im saying is if you wasnt the initial agressor then you shouldnt get the agression block
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/11/2007 16:20:19
Quote: If you agress someone, or shoot back in retaliation you cannot jump or dock.
Exactly so basically you try to protect yourself and you get penalised for that WTF! So you get ganked by a camp try for life to get to the gate, but in the meantime defending yourself, only to find you cant jump cos you did that..somethings not right with that
FYI i dont log off ever..infact it doesnt make a difference anymore.
Well, you were fighting. It doesn't matter who started it. It's not about criminal flagging. You're just not meant to be able to immediately go from fighting with your ship to using a gate or docking at a station. You need some time to disengage.
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Hermosa Diosas
The-Secret-Service Retribution.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/11/2007 16:20:19
Quote: If you agress someone, or shoot back in retaliation you cannot jump or dock.
Exactly so basically you try to protect yourself and you get penalised for that WTF! So you get ganked by a camp try for life to get to the gate, but in the meantime defending yourself, only to find you cant jump cos you did that..somethings not right with that
FYI i dont log off ever..infact it doesnt make a difference anymore.
Well, you were fighting. It doesn't matter who started it. It's not about criminal flagging. You're just not meant to be able to immediately go from fighting with your ship to using a gate or docking at a station. You need some time to disengage.
Hmm i know what your saying but surely gives the upperhand to the agressors if you want to get away, without taking one of the gits out
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Illminatis
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Posted - 2007.11.26 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas
Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/11/2007 16:20:19
Quote: If you agress someone, or shoot back in retaliation you cannot jump or dock.
Exactly so basically you try to protect yourself and you get penalised for that WTF! So you get ganked by a camp try for life to get to the gate, but in the meantime defending yourself, only to find you cant jump cos you did that..somethings not right with that
FYI i dont log off ever..infact it doesnt make a difference anymore.
Well, you were fighting. It doesn't matter who started it. It's not about criminal flagging. You're just not meant to be able to immediately go from fighting with your ship to using a gate or docking at a station. You need some time to disengage.
Hmm i know what your saying but surely gives the upperhand to the agressors if you want to get away, without taking one of the gits out
If you jump out, they can't follow you.
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Akkarin Pagan
Minmatar Raddick Explorations
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:42:00 -
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Don't return fire, just run for the gate. Works for me (some of the time).
Akkarin
Hopefully the mods won't play with this one
<3 - Immy
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JamnOne
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.26 18:44:00 -
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I learned to unlock target and keep trying for the next 30 secs to dock or jump. As long as target it locked after/during engagment you won't be able to dock. ________________________
Originally by: CCP Prism X Hah! Vengeance is sweet!
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Hitman396
Caldari Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:03:00 -
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Seriously just think what would happen without the aggro timer. If your station was camped by hostiles you could simply undock, shoot, dock and repeat constantly :/
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: JamnOne I learned to unlock target and keep trying for the next 30 secs to dock or jump. As long as target it locked after/during engagment you won't be able to dock.
Lies! Targeting has nothing at all to do with targets, only got to do with you remote repping or attacking someone, and thats absolutely it!
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Evenfall Phoenix
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:10:00 -
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It's about time they did this. In 0.0 you can log off not knowing if you have an aggression counter and then log on only to find yourself in a pod. It's very very good thing that they finally added this.
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:13:00 -
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Just so you know, there never used to be agression timers.
Its a good thing there are. And thats all ill say.
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Janu Hull
Caldari Order of Z Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hermosa Diosas Edited by: Hermosa Diosas on 26/11/2007 16:20:19
Quote: If you agress someone, or shoot back in retaliation you cannot jump or dock.
Exactly so basically you try to protect yourself and you get penalised for that WTF! So you get ganked by a camp try for life to get to the gate, but in the meantime defending yourself, only to find you cant jump cos you did that..somethings not right with that
FYI i dont log off ever..infact it doesnt make a difference anymore.
You can rev your tank up and take non-aggressive active measures like Cap and Shield Boosting, but you can't go offensive, or you trip the timer.
I've survived a few gate camps by kicking in the tank and ABing or MWDing back to the gate to jump.
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Shardrael
Caldari AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.11.26 19:58:00 -
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umm no
imo and I think ccp agrees as apparently this is changing in trinity, aggression timers need to be longer.
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