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SFShootme
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.29 11:19:00 -
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Edited by: SFShootme on 29/11/2007 11:33:07
Right,
I've noticed that alot of people are wondering what trinity is going to look like without all the funny photoshops, post processing/rendering etc. Also, this should anwser the question; "omg, should i upgrade my videocard or pc?".
So i decided to make a small video to demonstrate various ships, with everything fully turned up. (HDR, Shadows, AA, AF, etcetc) <- proof included 
Ships used: Raven, Falcon, Rook, Drake.
Places; Inside station, Outside station, In Space.
Video:
Resolution: 1440x900
Size: 159 Megs
Lenght: 3:08 mins.
Link
It's been put together maybe a tad to quick, but since its coming out next week i figured i would have to rush it.
Enjoy,
Shoot
edit; will encode with dark shikari's encoder as soon as possible
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Quli
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Posted - 2007.11.29 11:26:00 -
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Cool, checking it out now...
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ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.29 11:40:00 -
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Fark, gonna need a new PC fo sho!
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Wiaf
Mystic Lion Hearts
Sev3rance
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Posted - 2007.11.29 13:26:00 -
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Epic... Truely Epic! Cant wait.
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Yvonne S
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.29 13:28:00 -
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\o/ looking forward to it !!
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Haargoth Agamar
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.29 14:48:00 -
[6]
You sir are a very nice person!
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Htrag
The Carebear Stare
Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.11.29 18:33:00 -
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Is that a faction shuttle you got there?
DEV HAX!!!!
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.11.29 18:49:00 -
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downloading, cant wait to see this 
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SFShootme
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.29 19:39:00 -
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Updated with a redncoded, smaller version
http://eve-files.com/dl/136863
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BroChi
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Posted - 2007.11.30 01:14:00 -
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Very nice video, can't wait for it to be released!!!
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AlleyKat
Gallente
White-Noise
Skunk-Works
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Posted - 2007.11.30 01:17:00 -
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Nice,
But I am seeing aliasing in your vid. I jumped on sisi and used the same settings and got the same result. hdr kinda kills the anti-aliasing.
AK.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.11.30 01:21:00 -
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 Originally by: AlleyKat
Nice,
But I am seeing aliasing in your vid. I jumped on sisi and used the same settings and got the same result. hdr kinda kills the anti-aliasing.
AK.
For the interest of the movie makers post-Trinity if they don't immediately fix the AA/HDR issue, I have found a decent way to reduce aliasing; I'm not sure how well it works in EVE, but it worked with a Portal clip I had a bit back. Avisynth is your friend here.
1. Resize with a high-quality resizer (Blackman, Lanczos, Spline, or ideally, NNEDIresize) to 2x, or ideally (but slower), 4x the normal resolution.
2. Resize back down with a resizer known for a bit of blurring (Bicubic, Bilinear).
This seems to take care of aliasing pretty effectively without blurring text.
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SFShootme
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.30 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: AlleyKat
Nice,
But I am seeing aliasing in your vid. I jumped on sisi and used the same settings and got the same result. hdr kinda kills the anti-aliasing.
AK.
For the interest of the movie makers post-Trinity if they don't immediately fix the AA/HDR issue, I have found a decent way to reduce aliasing; I'm not sure how well it works in EVE, but it worked with a Portal clip I had a bit back. Avisynth is your friend here.
1. Resize with a high-quality resizer (Blackman, Lanczos, Spline, or ideally, NNEDIresize) to 2x, or ideally (but slower), 4x the normal resolution.
2. Resize back down with a resizer known for a bit of blurring (Bicubic, Bilinear).
This seems to take care of aliasing pretty effectively without blurring text.
This will mean however, that the video is not actually going to reflect what it is in real, which is what this vid is all about.
Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
SFShootme
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.30 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: AlleyKat
Nice,
But I am seeing aliasing in your vid. I jumped on sisi and used the same settings and got the same result. hdr kinda kills the anti-aliasing.
AK.
a dev has reply'd somewhere that the "extreme" settings are not recommended because they use 4092x4092 (or something) shadow rendering... Or something rediculously high. I know that i will not play with everything on extreme during fleet fights.
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.11.30 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: SFShootme
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Originally by: AlleyKat
Nice,
But I am seeing aliasing in your vid. I jumped on sisi and used the same settings and got the same result. hdr kinda kills the anti-aliasing.
AK.
For the interest of the movie makers post-Trinity if they don't immediately fix the AA/HDR issue, I have found a decent way to reduce aliasing; I'm not sure how well it works in EVE, but it worked with a Portal clip I had a bit back. Avisynth is your friend here.
1. Resize with a high-quality resizer (Blackman, Lanczos, Spline, or ideally, NNEDIresize) to 2x, or ideally (but slower), 4x the normal resolution.
2. Resize back down with a resizer known for a bit of blurring (Bicubic, Bilinear).
This seems to take care of aliasing pretty effectively without blurring text.
This will mean however, that the video is not actually going to reflect what it is in real, which is what this vid is all about.
Of course, I was referring to as postprocessing for general-use video making after Trinity.
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SFShootme
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.11.30 02:29:00 -
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Edited by: SFShootme on 30/11/2007 02:29:33
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Of course, I was referring to as postprocessing for general-use video making after Trinity.
I'll give it a try as soon as i have time, might get something interesting out of it
Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
Buxaroo
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.01 03:56:00 -
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Nice! Oh and numbnuts...might be helpful if you gave your system specs you Danish nuublet!
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Niina
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.01 06:54:00 -
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Originally by: SFShootme
There is definatly a issue with AA & HDR at the same time.
AA + HDR just wont work together, and no real way to make it work due to technologies involved (that is, for my best knowledge, correct if im totally off here).
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.12.01 08:27:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/12/2007 08:26:59
Originally by: Niina
Originally by: SFShootme
There is definatly a issue with AA & HDR at the same time.
AA + HDR just wont work together, and no real way to make it work due to technologies involved (that is, for my best knowledge, correct if im totally off here).
This is true of certain implementations of HDR, not HDR in general.
To prove yourself wrong, go open any Source engine game with HDR and turn on AA--they work fine together I believe.
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Niina
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.01 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 01/12/2007 08:26:59
Originally by: Niina
Originally by: SFShootme
There is definatly a issue with AA & HDR at the same time.
AA + HDR just wont work together, and no real way to make it work due to technologies involved (that is, for my best knowledge, correct if im totally off here).
This is true of certain implementations of HDR, not HDR in general.
To prove yourself wrong, go open any Source engine game with HDR and turn on AA--they work fine together I believe.
When HL: Lost Coast came out, i did infact try that, results being: While HDR was active, AA was set off in the area where HDR effect was, otherwise normal AA :) so still essentially AA+hdr was not working. I was using Nvidia and Source is (or was) Ati tuned afaik, so might be just that. If able to provide SS whit aa+hdr, pls do so, and tell your system specs :)
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.12.01 23:14:00 -
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Originally by: Niina
When HL: Lost Coast came out, i did infact try that, results being: While HDR was active, AA was set off in the area where HDR effect was, otherwise normal AA :) so still essentially AA+hdr was not working. I was using Nvidia and Source is (or was) Ati tuned afaik, so might be just that. If able to provide SS whit aa+hdr, pls do so, and tell your system specs :)
I'm pretty sure HL2:EP2 worked fine with HDR+AA.
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.02 00:20:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo
Nice! Oh and numbnuts...might be helpful if you gave your system specs you Danish nuublet!
Buxaroo is ghey , ghey ghey ghey 
Cant wait tbh for these tasty looking stuff
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SFShootme
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.02 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Buxaroo
Nice! Oh and numbnuts...might be helpful if you gave your system specs you Danish nuublet!
Danish!? It's Dutch damnit! dutch dutch DUTCH!!!
System specs:
Intell Core2Duo, 2.8ghz
2x 8600GT SLI
4gigs of pwnage ram.
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do i get a cookie now 
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Niina
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.02 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Shikari
I'm pretty sure HL2:EP2 worked fine with HDR+AA.
That off, i cant say anything, still belonging to the minority that somehow didnt buy the game.
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XrayZ
Euphoria Foundation
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Posted - 2007.12.03 09:27:00 -
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nice 
but...!
SFShootme¦s Trinity Vid. strikes XrayZ very hard, leaveing him with a busted computer.
i need a new comp! 
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2007.12.03 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Niina
Seems like its solvable afterall, different thing is, will ccp attempt it or just go whit the normal: "Its not a bug, its a feature".
IF your hardware supports it. 8xxx series supports it from nvidia, and x1000 series and up support it from ATI. I can confirm it works on the 8xxx series btw, with a little driver setting modifying.
Anyway, there are many other threads discussing this in game development forum, the most recent one is this one.
Ontopic: Thanks for the vid, Trinity looks absolutely stunning, as always
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