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Rixiu
North Star Networks The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:36:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote: Apologies for reposting this (sanitised), but I would like to ask you to respond.
When are you people going to learn to do these patch days properly!?
For the one millionth time: Estimate how long it is going to take, and then DOUBLE IT!!! That way you avoid wasting people's time (yet again), and of course you can then only surprise on the upside.
Why do you insist on making yourself look completely incompetent... EVERY ... SINGLE ... TIME!?? What exactly is the logic underpinning the current approach?
Could I have an answer please? I really am very curious about this...
Who's the fool? The ones who make the faulty predictions every time or the ones who believe those predictions every time?
Double the predictions yourself? It's not that hard tbh... And give the ops team some cred, it's obvious that every time they try to deploy a patch something breaks that needs fixing which says a lot of how a bad state eve is code wise. |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:37:00 -
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Rixiu wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote: Apologies for reposting this (sanitised), but I would like to ask you to respond.
When are you people going to learn to do these patch days properly!?
For the one millionth time: Estimate how long it is going to take, and then DOUBLE IT!!! That way you avoid wasting people's time (yet again), and of course you can then only surprise on the upside.
Why do you insist on making yourself look completely incompetent... EVERY ... SINGLE ... TIME!?? What exactly is the logic underpinning the current approach?
Could I have an answer please? I really am very curious about this...
Who's the fool? The ones who make the faulty predictions every time or the ones who believe those predictions every time? Double the predictions yourself? It's not that hard tbh...
Thanks for the bump |
Serge Bastana
GWA Corp
83
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:39:00 -
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Hey, look at it this way, you got to enjoy the forums during your long wait. in other MMO's stupid people are annoying. In EVE they are a valuable resource /facebrick for those times when /facepalm just isn't enough
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Orion GUardian
116
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:41:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Rixiu wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote: Apologies for reposting this (sanitised), but I would like to ask you to respond.
When are you people going to learn to do these patch days properly!?
For the one millionth time: Estimate how long it is going to take, and then DOUBLE IT!!! That way you avoid wasting people's time (yet again), and of course you can then only surprise on the upside.
Why do you insist on making yourself look completely incompetent... EVERY ... SINGLE ... TIME!?? What exactly is the logic underpinning the current approach?
Could I have an answer please? I really am very curious about this...
Who's the fool? The ones who make the faulty predictions every time or the ones who believe those predictions every time? Double the predictions yourself? It's not that hard tbh... Thanks for the bump
Oh well been there done that....if there is one patch in history where no self important jerk posts about how bad it is too have a longer downtime due to a patch....I'll quit eve for sure...
@CCP Nullarbor: I liked that one very nice although it fed the troll as much as I did ^^ |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
130
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:42:00 -
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Quote:Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
I too am shocked that your whine about internet spaceships being unavailable for slightly longer than anticipated isn't being taken seriously. |
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra Gallente Federation
321
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:49:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
18 minutes is a big deal? It is hard to take anyone seriously who complains about such a minor issue. In fact, you must be new here... EVE used to sometimes overrun the downtime by days when things went really bad. EVE also used to have patch deployment downtimes of 8-10 hours. Compared to that, these days the patches take no time at all.
I could see a case for complaint if the downtime overran by 3 hours past planned time or something but this is nothing.
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Aruken Marr
BSC LEGION Tactical Narcotics Team
31
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:54:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
Your lack of humour may have something to do with the problem... |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 14:58:00 -
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Kahega Amielden wrote:Quote:Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
I too am shocked that your whine about internet spaceships being unavailable for slightly longer than anticipated isn't being taken seriously.
I know you're trying to troll me, but I am going to bite.
I don't care how many extended down-times there are.
I don't even care how long they are.
I would just like a better (perhaps even a slightly more conservative) estimate of it's duration. In addition, I would really love to know exactly what the internal CCP plan is on patch day. Do they just go "Oh well - we'll see how it goes", or do they actually consider inflating the time estimate?
Call it... 'curiocity' - something you fanbois seem to have an alergic reaction to. |
Jim Pooley
The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen Order of the Void
20
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:04:00 -
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You had to post your whine in a new thread because you were ignored in the official thread? |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:06:00 -
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Jim Pooley wrote:You had to post your whine in a new thread because you were ignored in the official thread?
No, I was just concerned it might get drowned out by laughable attempts at flaming from bored angst-filled pseudo-intellectual teenagers like you. Case in point... |
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Execer
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
0
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:17:00 -
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Whilst to some very small amount I agree they could up the estimates, I don't understand why you just cant do this yourself with your own time!?!
CCP say DT will be 1 hour. You plan for 2. Chances are the servers will be back up in two hours, if not, you won't be the only one complaining... |
Ni'kuah Demo
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:30:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
Your incoherent ramblings regarding a non-issue is not being taken seriously? This is an outrage! |
Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:34:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Jim Pooley wrote:You had to post your whine in a new thread because you were ignored in the official thread? No, I was just concerned it might get drowned out by laughable attempts at flaming from bored angst-filled pseudo-intellectual teenagers like you. Case in point...
Of course the rant like shouting and demanding you opened with is normally associated with mature behaviour?
Seriously, you could have used those 18 mins to change your diaper rather than simply have a tantrum.
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Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:37:00 -
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Execer wrote:Whilst to some very small amount I agree they could up the estimates, I don't understand why you just cant do this yourself with your own time!?!
CCP say DT will be 1 hour. You plan for 2. Chances are the servers will be back up in two hours, if not, you won't be the only one complaining...
Yes, that would make sense, but unfortunately that's not really the issue here.
The issue is that CCP seem to always think that things are going to go exactly as planned, and then it seems to come as a complete surprise to them when they don't. They then have to extend the DT, and after a little while they have to extend it again, and so on and so forth - each time wasting another 20 minutes(times number of players looking to log on). If they just assumed that things WON'T go to plan (as most people in life do - if they're sensible!), then we wouldn't have to collectively waste quite so much of our time.
And if you're wondering why I don't just go off for 3 hours, thus increasing the likelyhood that the server will be back up when I come back, it's simply because when DT arrives I am almost always in the middle of something (like a POS siege....)
All I am asking is that CCP try to behave in a slightly more sensible, service minded, customer orientated manner. |
Kinis Deren
EVE University Ivy League
25
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Posted - 2012.02.01 15:50:00 -
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CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here.
I LOL'd at this at work - stop it!
OP, why not just add 30 minutes to the official estimate to create your very own personal patch time estimate? |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:00:00 -
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In the interest fo adding something constructive to this thread:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Downtime
notes therin how to help survive it, some technical, some emotional.
"All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:01:00 -
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Kinis Deren wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. I LOL'd at this at work - stop it! OP, why not just add 30 minutes to the official estimate to create your very own personal patch time estimate?
I am beginning to think that people (that would be you), intentionally don't read the thread before spewing out their misconceived opinions in suffocating quantities. I find it quite amusing actually, and certainly proof that the average forum visitor is bit of a knob.
In case you're trolling, then No - I won't bite this time. You'll have to do better than that. |
Dunbar Hulan
The Flaming Sideburn's Art of War Alliance
64
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:23:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote: Apologies for reposting this (sanitised), but I would like to ask you to respond.
When are you people going to learn to do these patch days properly!?
For the one millionth time: Estimate how long it is going to take, and then DOUBLE IT!!! That way you avoid wasting people's time (yet again), and of course you can then only surprise on the upside.
Why do you insist on making yourself look completely incompetent... EVERY ... SINGLE ... TIME!?? What exactly is the logic underpinning the current approach?
Could I have an answer please? I really am very curious about this...
Easy Tiger, I'm sure your anxious to get back into the swing of things, but these boys do what they can, when they can. They're not supermen, so what if downtime is extended ? Go outside, watch Manchester United, grab a beer, check your investments, dress up as Darth Vader or "The Machine" and try chat roulette. -áThe Sideburns- Always Outnumbered- Never Outgunned. Manchester United - Paul Scholes= Genius |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
916
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:41:00 -
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I fully expect you to post a complaint the next time down time is completed ahead of schedule (as happens frequently).
I'm sure it will be given the same number of pity responses this thread did, possibly more, which should satisfy your need for attention even more completely. Or does that need never really go away... Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Ammzi
Commanding Wall Wall of Shadow
805
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:41:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
In your face Gilbert! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:44:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism.... In your face Gilbert!
Let me help you along there kiddo. I think you got this quote the wrong way round |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:44:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism.... In your face Gilbert!
Let me help you along there kiddo. I think you got this quote the wrong way round
EDIT: Double post?? That's new..... |
Lyron-Baktos
Selective Pressure Rote Kapelle
44
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:44:00 -
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1. Pre-create forum post ahead of time complaining of DT 2. Soon as DT goes past 1 extra second, press submit 3. profit and/or rage!! On holiday. -áIn some other world. Where the music of the radio was a labyrinth of sonorous colours. To a bright centre of absolute convicton. -áWhere the dripping patchouli was more than scent. -á It was a sun |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:55:00 -
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Lyron-Baktos wrote:1. Pre-create forum post ahead of time complaining of DT 2. Soon as DT goes past 1 extra second, press submit 3. profit and/or rage!!
Not too bright ar we?
1. Didn't read original post properly. 2. Misunderstood the issue being broght up completely. 3. Made an a55 of yourself (probably not for the first time). 4. Profit? Surely not....? |
Malcom Dax
Blacklight Incorporated Broken Chains Alliance
29
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Posted - 2012.02.01 16:55:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:... when DT arrives I am almost always in the middle of something (like a POS siege....)
Time your POS siege (or whatever else) better. Its not like they start the downtime at a random time - you know when its gonna hit. Blacklight Incorporated: Recruiting now for PvP and Industry. |
Gilbert Intaki
Aliastra Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.02.01 17:15:00 -
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Malcom Dax wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:... when DT arrives I am almost always in the middle of something (like a POS siege....) Time your POS siege (or whatever else) better. Its not like they start the downtime at a random time - you know when its gonna hit.
That's a bit of a lame point to make isn't it? These things take time, so you have to start at some point(obviously!), and it just might happen to stretch across DT. In fact - it often does. Some of us would like to also do other things than be glued to the screen all day... |
Jim Pooley
The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen Order of the Void
20
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Posted - 2012.02.01 17:27:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Jim Pooley wrote:You had to post your whine in a new thread because you were ignored in the official thread? No, I was just concerned it might get drowned out by laughable attempts at flaming from bored angst-filled pseudo-intellectual teenagers like you. Case in point...
I'm not angst filled, and oh man it has been a looooong time since I was a teenager.
Try again!
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
412
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Posted - 2012.02.01 17:27:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
CCP just trolled your thread, and that's the best you can do?
I think it'd be pretty funny if they did this on purpose. Go out and get some sun.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Jim Pooley
The Jeremy Kyle Holding Pen Order of the Void
20
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Posted - 2012.02.01 17:31:00 -
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I almost forgot, be careful what you ask of Navigator. He may end up emailing you accusing you of being a racist because he is incapable of reading posts correctly.
Oh yes Pete, I still have the email, and I still promise to exact revenge on you. |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
325
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Posted - 2012.02.01 17:37:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:CCP Nullarbor wrote:You have to cut the ops team some slack, trolling the player base with made up downtime estimates is the only fun they get around here. Thanks for taking this seriously. You positively reek of professionalism....
If you want a professional reply, file a petition. That's what petitions are for, not the forums. |
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