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Huldradans
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:27:00 -
[541]
Originally by: Iron Elohim I think i remade my boot.ini properly, but doesnt anyone know?
I have Windows XP Media Center edition SP2, will the below work?
[boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition" /fastdetect
Go to Start, click Run and type: msconfig <hit enter>
Then click the 'boot.ini' tab - click "Check All Boot Paths"
That should indicate if you're safe to reboot or not.
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Baulath
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:28:00 -
[542]
I can't believe CCP managed to remove my boot.ini file. Utter FAILURE on your part. I wonder exactly how many people this morning are having major computer problems? How many are driving their PC to a computer shop right now to have it repaired? I can't believe this wasn't picked up during testing.. Oh wait... Large companies, CCP, Microsoft.. They don't actually beta test, hence all the problems come release.
No doubt CCP is covered in the EULA for doing such heinous crimes, else I'd be stating one thing; LAW SUIT. Baulath |
Hydrogen
Art of War
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:28:00 -
[543]
Originally by: Psylo Yar Just wanted to say that I'm running Win XP Media Edition, and was not affected by this.
Check if you got a boot.ini in C:\ respectively your boot drive and act accordingly if not :) __
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Arakn1s
Amarr Quaver Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:28:00 -
[544]
Hmm stopped reading at the 3rd page, i love all those ppl that will cancel their subscription, sue CCP, leave the game and handover their stuff, will take the first plane to go kill all the CCP staff, will have everybody fired etc etc.
Thank you CCP for bringing this awesome update it really changed the game completely. **** happens with installers either to online or single player games, anyone who has played for a little time knows that. Just decide if you want to solve your problem and play or ***** about it for a month because you dont have anywhere else to show your hate.
For the ppl that will start flaming me, my computer was buggered too and i had to restore a 6 month old ghost image, so what?
Work with those ppl to help you back, dont make things more difficult.
/hope everybody solves their problems and enjoys the awesome new EVE
Thanks again
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StarStryder
Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:33:00 -
[545]
Edited by: StarStryder on 06/12/2007 13:34:05 Edited by: StarStryder on 06/12/2007 13:33:14 Yes, this is a world class screw, but for the love of God would people stop *****ing until they've bothered to read the information that's already been posted.
For example, how can you delete a file by mistake. Already explained quite clearly here:
Originally by: El'essar Viocragh There comes a time in one's life where one learns why using relative paths in scripts is bad.
Sometimes you delete half your harddrive, sometimes other peoples boot.ini.
Your installer asks for the installation directory. Save that as $BASEPATH
Do not cd into $BASEPATH and work with relative paths from there. Bad things happen along that road.
Prefix all you relative paths with $BASEPATH.
- BAD!
- cd C:\Games\Eve
- del \boot.ini
- del otherfile.txt
- ...
- GOOD!
- del C:\Games\Eve\\boot.ini
- del C:\Games\Eve\otherfile.txt
- ...
Safe-guards for those typos were put into realpath libraries long ago. Use them.
If that's too hard for you to understand then stop asking anyway because you aren't going to under the answer.
Another great example is FHPhantom and his "I lost data doing a system restore" whining. Once again, reading things would saved his data by allowing a recovery by typing a few lines of text into notepad with no nothing else on the system changed.
The only people who have a case for claiming compensation are those with access to only one PC who have little choice but to get it repaired professionally.
But then they won't be on the forum whining because they don't have access to the internet!
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Bacci Galu
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:33:00 -
[546]
Originally by: Greme Edited by: Greme on 06/12/2007 13:31:06 I have a strange situation, if anyone can help me figure out what to do, go for it.
Basically, there appears to be no boot.ini in my C:\ folder (main HD folder), not as an unhidden file, or a hidden file. However, when I download the winxpboot.ini and try to rename it to boot.ini within my C:\ folder, it tells me to name it something different as there is already something with that name in the folder.
However, as I said before, as far as I can tell, there isn't. Do I trust the windows message or my own eyes?
Msconfig boot.ini tab "check all boot paths" also states that I am safe..... but still no sign of my boot.ini!
Open c:\ from "My Computer", go to tools, Folder options, seleve view tab, uncheck the following;
"Hide protected operating System files"
and select "show Hidden Files"
then look to see in the boot.ini file is there, if its not, windows is lieing to you and you should trust your own eyes.
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Huldradans
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:34:00 -
[547]
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari I've added an entry into my rarely-updated EVE Online blog (link below my sig).
This event is just unprecedented. No sane person will ever forgive this mistake.
CCP, once the dust settles, we want blood. And this time, we want it for real.
I've forgiven them :)
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Metlec
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:34:00 -
[548]
Originally by: Lord DevilHanzo You effing monkeys is all I can say.
Thanks to you my PC is now being repaired at an as yet unknown cost, not to mention the loss of files since my last backup, which happens to be a lot of important uni work.
CCP, I will be seeking legal advice if you are not prepared to cover the cost of repair.
The loss of data I accept as my fault for not backing up more often but I expect to have free game time to cover the cost coming out of my pocket.
I'm happy for you to check any receipt to prove the repair bill.
Seriously unhappy.
Unless you stored all your uni work in the boot.ini comments, I seriously doubt you can pin any loss of work on that.
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Atreides Ghanima
Grumpy Old Men DeStInY.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:34:00 -
[549]
Quote: If you have Windows AND upgraded EVE Online: Trinity Classic before 4 A.M. GMT to Premium using the content upgrade path then you MUST read this before doing anything else.
And the people that upgraded Trinity classic after 4 A.M. GMT ? Do they have problems? Can I upgrade atm or do I have to wait untill CCP says: GO!!! ----- The spice must flow!!! |
Lt Jhaack
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:35:00 -
[550]
Edited by: Lt Jhaack on 06/12/2007 13:34:59
Originally by: CCP Mindstar
Originally by: Lt Jhaack Edited by: Lt Jhaack on 06/12/2007 13:31:39 Is there some log on my computer that i can find to show a proof that i downloaded a broken patch at 9 GMT that deleted my boot.ini . Is CCP trying to minimize this event by saying it only affects people before 4 GMT ? I'm not flaming CCP but if it's the case it's not nice. I almost thought my computer was out of danger when i saw it was only before 4 AM and was about to shutdown when i told myself "Let's check to be 100% safe".
CCP please give official answer asap.
Had you started downloading the patch prior to 9am? ie. did you commence downloading the patch after 9, or did the patch finish downloading around then?
I started downloading the patch after 9 AM. It downloaded very fast at 2600KB/S, maybe you can see in your server log. I can give IP by private message if you need.
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lobdab
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:35:00 -
[551]
This is plain crap.
I rebooted before the warning got out and ofc the computer was completely disabled. Without the boot.ini file, and the hal.dll file which also got corrupted in the mess, winxp was utterly impossible to boot or repair - those of us with our OS files on separate paritions (as was the case for the family compy i was using last night) really got shafted here, since you can't run recovery console from it, and you don't have the CD. I couldn't even use NTFS4DOS to make repairs, nevermind the fact not all of us have a spare laptop or the like sitting around. In the end, the only available recourse was a full reinstall, as the compy needed to be fully functional by the morning for business purposes.
No matter how you slice this, this caused a huge amount of damage. Thanks alot for trinity ofc, but ffs if i lived in iceland id have peed all over your front door by now, and told you off something good.
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Garia666
Amarr T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:35:00 -
[552]
Originally by: De'Zori
Originally by: Garia666 yep
HAHAHA you need too keep that sig forever man...mind if i steal it? awesome
go ahaed i stole it from tweakers.net ->My Vids<-
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Greme
Amarr Slacker Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:35:00 -
[553]
Originally by: Bacci Galu
Originally by: Greme Edited by: Greme on 06/12/2007 13:31:06 I have a strange situation, if anyone can help me figure out what to do, go for it.
Basically, there appears to be no boot.ini in my C:\ folder (main HD folder), not as an unhidden file, or a hidden file. However, when I download the winxpboot.ini and try to rename it to boot.ini within my C:\ folder, it tells me to name it something different as there is already something with that name in the folder.
However, as I said before, as far as I can tell, there isn't. Do I trust the windows message or my own eyes?
Msconfig boot.ini tab "check all boot paths" also states that I am safe..... but still no sign of my boot.ini!
Open c:\ from "My Computer", go to tools, Folder options, seleve view tab, uncheck the following;
"Hide protected operating System files"
and select "show Hidden Files"
then look to see in the boot.ini file is there, if its not, windows is lieing to you and you should trust your own eyes.
regards
The problem with this is that I cannot now put a boot.ini file into my C:\ directory as it wont let me rename any file to boot.ini :P
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Danag Darklightning
Caldari Fifth Exiled Legion SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:35:00 -
[554]
Wow, 18+ pages in this thread so far, lots of reading.
Anyways, first, people should not poke at how other people use their PC.
For those you haven't experienced this problem and have chosen to comment on things such as "you should have your system partitioned like this" or "anyone who has their programs installed on their C: drive is lame", or anything else in that area, is just wrong.
90% of people you have PCs with Windows are "out-of-the-box" users. And why shouldn't they be? When you buy a car, do you instantly go home and rip things apart to customize it? Most of us? No. So why should people do that with their computers?
Most computers that come from large manufacturers such as Dell, HP, Acer, etc. are going to have your Windows directory as well as your Program Files directory on the same partition. That's just the way it is.
Also, when you install XP or Vista from CD there is no option to put Windows folder in location A and Program Files in location B. This is a lack of seeing the big picture on Microsoft's part, and should have been added _years_ ago.
In order to get a PC setup that way you either have to slipstream a custom install CD with different paths for different folders or manually enter a different drive:\path when you install things. Both of which most users will never attempt.
That being said, this problem is CCP's fault and no one else's. Not to poke fun at CCP, I love EVE, and programming is hard work. But they apparently failed to test their update client on an "out-of-the-box" setup of XP, which the bulk of Windows users are still using.
Out-of-the-box Windows environment: Everything's on the C: Drive, one account, admin-level, no password, auto-login. Sound familiar? I'll bet it does.
Also, don't be fooled, this problem can still occur on Vista. If you turn off the new layer of protection, which many people do because it's utterly annoying, your boot.ini can still be removed as you have to install the EVE premium content with an Admin-level account.
Don't blame the player, blame the author. But don't kick CCP while they're down. I'm sure they know they goofed, and I'm sure they don't feel to good about it. With a user-base of 200,000+, most of us over the age of 20, and most of us hardcore EVE lovers, I'm certain the last thing they want is us posting messages about "installing EVE will wreck your XP" to various message boards, so it's not like they did it on purpose. So you can safely assume they didn't want their new client to break their users' computers.
Luckily I did not experience this problem. I am not an out-of-the-box user A customer XPproSP2 install CD I built quite some time ago does C: for Windows and D: for everything else, and my other PC is Linux. I played on SiSi for almost two weeks, and installed the Trinity client + premium content, and didn't experience this problem. However, a non out-of-box install is the reason.
However, coming from a programming background, there are certain rules that should always be followed;
- Test your software.on "out-of-the-box" installs of various versions of the operating system(s) that your software is built for. These are real-world type PCs which the bulk of your users will be running with. - Don't rely on your users to test things - Test your software. - Don't rely on the users that _do_ test your software as they are most-likely not "out-of-the-box" type users - Test your software. - Test your software
Keep in mind your boot.ini only handles the booting of the machine. You data is still there, and reviving from this is not that horrible.
No back to your regularly scheduled program.
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FHPhantom
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:36:00 -
[555]
fucccking aholes. I want my cc reversed charges since i started play almost 1 year ago. I want a guerente that my computer isnt affected so that next week I get viruses out the arse. cause right now I dont trust this company, with any of my info.
im sick in the stomache over this and on my day off from work ir ruined my day and possibly my pc. I speak for myself and will contact matercard asap. Ill do what i have to do, and I want an answer was our personal info compromised? cause the security of ccp is and has been possibly breeched.
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Mr Fatalis
Dark-Rising Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:36:00 -
[556]
Originally by: Light Darkness Edited by: Light Darkness on 06/12/2007 13:24:41 I dont know how to avoid that problem buit i got help with this link:
http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000648.htm Repair link
So if you have problems please follow this steps and you are fine.
I did it and it worked.
/LD
Thanks LD and thanks to corp mates on our own forums who have posted similar advice.
CCP: I think you have disappointed a whole lot of very loyal players with this negligent ommission.
Yeah we all joke and I always advise corpies to set a "really long skill" for patch days as there are often hiccups, but this is a hiccup with lots of sick too.
I only hope that when I get home after a hard days work that I can get my machine to work with the kind advice proffered by my colleagues.
I hope you learn from this a cut players a bit of slack as this is a really good game with a loyal following.
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Lord DevilHanzo
Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:36:00 -
[557]
Originally by: zombu2 Edited by: zombu2 on 06/12/2007 13:32:05 You effing monkeys is all I can say.
Thanks to you my PC is now being repaired at an as yet unknown cost, not to mention the loss of files since my last backup, which happens to be a lot of important uni work.
CCP, I will be seeking legal advice if you are not prepared to cover the cost of repair.
The loss of data I accept as my fault for not backing up more often but I expect to have free game time to cover the cost coming out of my pocket.
I'm happy for you to check any receipt to prove the repair bill.
Seriously unhappy.
you know what STFU
Pipe down, jockey. Just stating my feelings on the matter.
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Sp4rt4nII70
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:36:00 -
[558]
Where do I find the backup copy of the boot.ini?
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Marlorn Aeon
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:37:00 -
[559]
Can I copy this into a new boot.ini? but i dont have windows xp professional. i gots windows xp media edition
[boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect
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zombu2
Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:42:00 -
[560]
Edited by: zombu2 on 06/12/2007 13:42:13
Originally by: FHPhantom fucccking aholes. I want my cc reversed charges since i started play almost 1 year ago. I want a guerente that my computer isnt affected so that next week I get viruses out the arse. cause right now I dont trust this company, with any of my info.
im sick in the stomache over this and on my day off from work ir ruined my day and possibly my pc. I speak for myself and will contact matercard asap. Ill do what i have to do, and I want an answer was our personal info compromised? cause the security of ccp is and has been possibly breeched.
YOU ARE QUIET A MORON I HAVE TO SAY
what about you give me your email adress and i let you download the faulty patch again and this time make sure you run it
BTW you might wanna start going to school your spelling is horrible
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Cailais
Amarr VITOC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:42:00 -
[561]
Originally by: CCP Mindstar
Originally by: Cailais Well so far Ive been unable to recover my OS.
Not being all that technically minded it looks as if the PC will have to go and be repaired, no doubt at some cost.
Well done.
C.
Do you have the original Windows install disks handy? Are you able to get through some of the steps in the article here?
Yes, but for some reason my PC wouldn't boot from the XP disk. So I delved into the murky world of the BIOS and set to read from CD ROM only.
My computer would then only post this message on start up.
'DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER'
I probably shouldnt have fiddled with the BIOS, but there you go - if you don't try you can't succeed. (Ive finally got back into the BIOS now and sorted that). Perhaps I've got a hardware fault with my CD-ROM drive? Any ideas on how I should have the BIOS set up correctly?
C.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
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Dors V
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:42:00 -
[562]
if your running xp home look in your route Dir, start, my comp, from tabs at top select Tools, Folder options, View, under files and folders, check the box for show hiden files and folders. goto your Route Dir (my comp, C or D drive or whatever, look for a file named boot.ini.saved, rename it boot.ini (leaving it in your Route Dir), check the contents are there, thats it all done
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Bacci Galu
Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:43:00 -
[563]
Edited by: Bacci Galu on 06/12/2007 13:46:07 Edited by: Bacci Galu on 06/12/2007 13:43:16
Originally by: Greme
Originally by: Bacci Galu
Originally by: Greme Edited by: Greme on 06/12/2007 13:31:06 I have a strange situation, if anyone can help me figure out what to do, go for it.
Basically, there appears to be no boot.ini in my C:\ folder (main HD folder), not as an unhidden file, or a hidden file. However, when I download the winxpboot.ini and try to rename it to boot.ini within my C:\ folder, it tells me to name it something different as there is already something with that name in the folder.
However, as I said before, as far as I can tell, there isn't. Do I trust the windows message or my own eyes?
Msconfig boot.ini tab "check all boot paths" also states that I am safe..... but still no sign of my boot.ini!
Open c:\ from "My Computer", go to tools, Folder options, seleve view tab, uncheck the following;
"Hide protected operating System files"
and select "show Hidden Files"
then look to see in the boot.ini file is there, if its not, windows is lieing to you and you should trust your own eyes.
regards
The problem with this is that I cannot now put a boot.ini file into my C:\ directory as it wont let me rename any file to boot.ini :P
If u followed instructions and the boot.ini files is not there after the steps indicated, then there is something wrong... (ccp induced)
go to start, run, Type: notepad c:\boot.ini
If you see something like [QUOTE] [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer [/QUOTE]
Its all good
failing this
You have been biten by the ccp bug
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Taram Caldar
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:43:00 -
[564]
Originally by: FHPhantom fucccking aholes. I want my cc reversed charges since i started play almost 1 year ago. I want a guerente that my computer isnt affected so that next week I get viruses out the arse. cause right now I dont trust this company, with any of my info.
im sick in the stomache over this and on my day off from work ir ruined my day and possibly my pc. I speak for myself and will contact matercard asap. Ill do what i have to do, and I want an answer was our personal info compromised? cause the security of ccp is and has been possibly breeched.
Um... you are over reacting a bit. I'm ****ed too because there's no way this should have happened if CCP had used proper quality controls before pushing it live. However having your boot.ini deleted does nothing to expose you to viruses or information loss or your billing information getting out. It's a very basic file on your system.
Yeah, they screwed up and I really think they should do something fiscally about it but you are worrying too much. You're not at any more risk of viruses than you were before and you certainly aren't any more at risk of your personal information than you were before. All you have to do is replace a 4 line text file that tells Windows how to boot with a new file.
MOST users can simply go to the C:\Windows\PSS directory and copy the boot.ini.backup file from there, rename it to boot.ini and they'll be good to go.
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45thTiger 002
The Perfect Storm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:43:00 -
[565]
Originally by: Huldradans
Originally by: FHPhantom fucccking aholes. I want my cc reversed charges since i started play almost 1 year ago. I want a guerente that my computer isnt affected so that next week I get viruses out the arse. cause right now I dont trust this company, with any of my info.
im sick in the stomache over this and on my day off from work ir ruined my day and possibly my pc. I speak for myself and will contact matercard asap. Ill do what i have to do, and I want an answer was our personal info compromised? cause the security of ccp is and has been possibly breeched.
Dont worry dude, you are not smart enough to have data to loose.
GET OUT
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Darth Element
Amarr Cataclysm Enterprises Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:44:00 -
[566]
translate to german pls thx!!
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StarStryder
Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:44:00 -
[567]
Edited by: StarStryder on 06/12/2007 13:45:02
Originally by: Huldradans
Originally by: Sp4rt4nII70 Where do I find the backup copy of the boot.ini?
Try, x:\Windows\PSS
Wait for the "Drive X: not found" message!
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PointBlank65
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:44:00 -
[568]
not a problem in VISTA
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Morgren Darkhymn
Geekswarm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:44:00 -
[569]
Well, I've replaced my boot.ini correctly and my machine is functioning properly. The second step of my repair process was to uninstall EvE, and I will not be resubscribing. I apologise, but I can't say that I want software on my machine made by the same idiots that pulled this little stunt. I am not impressed. Fortunately for us all, the game is mediocre anyway, and I for one will not miss it.
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Bram Stoker
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Posted - 2007.12.06 13:44:00 -
[570]
i went through CCP's help on creating a new boot.ini file. Seemed to work but now everytime i start my computer i get this message: 'Please select the operating system to start' Then 'Microsoft Windows XP' Ten times in the list!!!!! My computer is brand new, i don't want to sit waiting for this message everytime i switch my computer on. Please give me a solution.
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