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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:19:00 -
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Originally by: Erotic Irony Edited by: Erotic Irony on 06/12/2007 08:18:04
Quote: We have taken down the ability to download the Classic to Premium upgrade patch until we have determined where the issue lies and how we can resolve this. Full install clients have not exhibited this issue and are safe to download.
Just wanted some clarification: Is the 584mb patch here supposed to be disabled or has it already disappeared off the available patches page? The former is still downloadable.
We have fixed the issue in the patch and it is now available again.
I am testing the BITS service as I type.
CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader
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PiniclePanda
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:20:00 -
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Originally by: Abbala Brutori ...CCP. I hate you. I don't care if this is contructive or not. I have my Final paper due tomorrow. and guess what. MY computer restarted. and Now I can't get a number of very important file that I have to have in the next few days. I can only pray. that my professors have compassion on me. Because if not. YOu have just successfully caused me to Fail my English class.
Thank you so very much.
This post goes to illustrate why it's a good idea to back up your mission critical documents, to, say, a thumb drive, webspace, google documents, another computer, hell, even a floppy. It's really that simple.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:20:00 -
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Posted up on another forum. Threw together a little script that will check for your boot.ini file, and if it's missing, it will check the only place in the windows directory we can seem to find a backup copy (about 70% so far have it). (Windows\pss dir).
Posted it up on a spare domain I had: www.gamingassist.com.
Gotten about 40 thank you emails, so its working for most ppl.
-proclaimed HERETIC
Source to script is also posted on the page, incase you have any better ideas. |
Odeweaver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Kittamaru
Originally by: CCP Lingorm Kittamaru < That may be for you but I have now reproduced this on 2 Windows XP SP2 machines.
Please see my post as there may be other reasons you wher enot effected.
This issue CAN AND DOES effect Windows XP SP2.
I only have a C: drive I am running Windows XP Pro SP2 I installed from the patch upgrade
I meet all the criteria... why is my PC acting special?
its not, the file was still deleted from your pc, you just had a backup which windows found and used, so stop giving bad advice and let the devs handle it. -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy
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Jaguar Dragon
Blood Association of Dragons Blood Alliance of Dragons
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:21:00 -
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say.. are you using the word, REBOOT. as turned off then restarted your pc, vs. using the reset button because pc crashed to blue screen. thats what happened to me. pc also had to be reset while playing another game after i logged out of eve. pc has not yet been turned off i need this clarified
also boot.ini tab is not in run/msconfig.
please advise
Jag
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Odeweaver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jaguar Dragon say.. are you using the word, REBOOT. as turned off then restarted your pc, vs. using the reset button because pc crashed to blue screen. thats what happened to me. pc also had to be reset while playing another game after i logged out of eve. pc has not yet been turned off i need this clarified
also boot.ini tab is not in run/msconfig.
please advise
Jag
c:/boot.ini
Type that in run if it doesn't work then open notepad copy the text in the first post then save to c:/boot.ini -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:24:00 -
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Originally by: Jaguar Dragon say.. are you using the word, REBOOT. as turned off then restarted your pc, vs. using the reset button because pc crashed to blue screen. thats what happened to me. pc also had to be reset while playing another game after i logged out of eve. pc has not yet been turned off i need this clarified
also boot.ini tab is not in run/msconfig.
please advise
Jag
As the boot.ini tab is not there then YOU ARE AFFECTED.
Please try one of the solutions posted in this thread.
CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader
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traderunner
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:24:00 -
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Thanks guy's and girls for the help my pc works fine after the restart all i need to do now is sit back and wait for my heart to start pumping again :) just what one needs after 8 hours night shift :)
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Kittamaru
Gallente Ceptacemia Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:24:00 -
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*deep blush* okay... i know why my PC was being uber...
I activated the diagnostic boot sequence (instead of fast boot) so I could see everything... when it tried to load the boot.ini, it couldn't find it. Instead of trying to use the backup, it scanned my PC for some file with a crazy name I wont' try to type out (maybe even a registry key entry, I'd have to check) and from there reconstructed the boot.ini. I know that's what it's doing because it says, and I quote:
warning: boot.ini not found scanning for local files constructing boot.ini
I have no idea what in the bloody hell that is... all the custom built rigs in our house are doing it... the two dells and the e-machine, don't. Very, vewwy strange indeed. Must be a custom-rig thing?
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haz bro
Caldari Union Aerospace Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:25:00 -
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well as my boot ini was removed and iam on a secure system i have no choice to get a systems operator to restore my computer...as that is in my contract. CCP shud of known and tested this in XP to thats a stuppid screwup... on dev side ..as you know that many people are still on XP home or prof...
Well i have no choice to present the bill to CCP to fix my system boot INI...because of my service contracts with my PC`s i cannot change anything..in my System files as that is a breach of contract policy i signed.
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Truce Slack
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:25:00 -
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Needless to say, this boot.ini issue is an astronomical mistake. Now that CCP is caught up to speed with the latest in computer graphics techniques, it's time they learn about Quality Assurance. Wikipedia is always a good start for novices: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_assurance |
Odeweaver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kittamaru *deep blush* okay... i know why my PC was being uber...
I activated the diagnostic boot sequence (instead of fast boot) so I could see everything... when it tried to load the boot.ini, it couldn't find it. Instead of trying to use the backup, it scanned my PC for some file with a crazy name I wont' try to type out (maybe even a registry key entry, I'd have to check) and from there reconstructed the boot.ini. I know that's what it's doing because it says, and I quote:
warning: boot.ini not found scanning for local files constructing boot.ini
I have no idea what in the bloody hell that is... all the custom built rigs in our house are doing it... the two dells and the e-machine, don't. Very, vewwy strange indeed. Must be a custom-rig thing?
Big pc builders use a custom install. -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy
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Garborg
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:26:00 -
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Anybody know who first made this qoute? "Any publicity is good publicity"
Wonder how much news this is going to make?
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Odeweaver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Truce Slack Needless to say, this boot.ini issue is an astronomical mistake. Now that CCP is caught up to speed with the latest in computer graphics techniques, it's time they learn about Quality Assurance. Wikipedia is always a good start for novices: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_assurance
Its called the CCP Celebratory Beertruck -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy
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Abbala Brutori
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:27:00 -
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ok. I'm not going to pretend that I know exactly how do mess with all this system and OS stuff. My computer has be restarted. SO right now I'm on a differet PC. As of right now I can't find my XP recovery disk. I can however run the built in recovery console. Which I'm guessing will reinstall my windows XP.
But this will also delete all my saved information correct???
I don't really know what I'm doing. SO if there is anyone that can please. give me a step by step as best as possible that would so extremely wonderful.
Should I run my recovery console? and will this cause mass data loss? What are my other options?
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Gynon
Caldari Mindstar Technology Talon Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:31:00 -
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Originally by: Artean Hilarious, and what a refreshing start to this morning!
First time ever I'm happy being a Vista user.
So, those this qualify as a trojan or a virus?
It qualifies as neither. A trojan creates a backdoor for anyone with malicious intent to enter. EvE does not. A virus is a self replicating program designed to infect other files (not simply delete them) EvE does not.
However this might fall under malware somehow but not in a traditional sense since this wasn't created with malicious intent thus defeating the "mal" part So this would just be an extremely human **** up
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Abbala Brutori
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Odeweaver
Originally by: Abbala Brutori ok. I'm not going to pretend that I know exactly how do mess with all this system and OS stuff. My computer has be restarted. SO right now I'm on a differet PC. As of right now I can't find my XP recovery disk. I can however run the built in recovery console. Which I'm guessing will reinstall my windows XP.
But this will also delete all my saved information correct???
I don't really know what I'm doing. SO if there is anyone that can please. give me a step by step as best as possible that would so extremely wonderful.
Should I run my recovery console? and will this cause mass data loss? What are my other options?
Don't know about the recovery console too much, but another option as stated would to download a linux live cd, mount your ntfs partition and copy a new bootfile over.
ANd how would I do that?
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Air Scare
Minmatar Mafia
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Lewis Its all right here in the patch notes.
Miscellaneous
* There were rare cases of people being unable to load their client after the 2.3 patch. The cause of this has been resolved. * Several fixes relating to the display of messages in multiple languages have been made. * Several obsolete dlls have been removed from the client. Note that there is a small possibility that your client will report as having incorrect files in the /bin/ directory as a result of this. If this occurs, please remove the files named. * Removing of Boot.ini from systems running XP as part of the "Need for Speed" upgrade.
LMAO omg. Classic.
I hope this doesnt turn out to be as huge of a problem as everyone thinks. I feel bad for CCP that this happened on their glorious Trinity launch. Doesnt necessarily excuse the mistake, but my heart goes out to them nontheless. I hope the community can work through this. Good luck in working through this CCP!
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More Tono
Gallente Ninmu Seijaku Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:35:00 -
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I'll just keep refreshing the page till somebody says something the "computer illerate" can understand. (sigh)
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Kittamaru
Gallente Ceptacemia Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:35:00 -
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Originally by: Odeweaver
Originally by: Kittamaru *deep blush* okay... i know why my PC was being uber...
I activated the diagnostic boot sequence (instead of fast boot) so I could see everything... when it tried to load the boot.ini, it couldn't find it. Instead of trying to use the backup, it scanned my PC for some file with a crazy name I wont' try to type out (maybe even a registry key entry, I'd have to check) and from there reconstructed the boot.ini. I know that's what it's doing because it says, and I quote:
warning: boot.ini not found scanning for local files constructing boot.ini
I have no idea what in the bloody hell that is... all the custom built rigs in our house are doing it... the two dells and the e-machine, don't. Very, vewwy strange indeed. Must be a custom-rig thing?
Big pc builders use a custom install.
I appreciate the compliment, but I'm no "big pc builder"... yes, I built most of the computers in our house myself. I have buying a PC and paying for labor plus a rig that just sucks... and most "pre made" pc's suck...
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 06/12/2007 08:37:00 ccp my laptop desnt boot anymore tanks to you
i need it for work
who wil fix it for me now ?
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Kittamaru
Gallente Ceptacemia Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:36:00 -
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Originally by: More Tono I'll just keep refreshing the page till somebody says something the "computer illerate" can understand. (sigh)
Simply put:
Take the code being supplied.
Copy it into a notepad document.
Save the document somewhere as boot.ini
Take that document and drop it into your root folder "C:" for most people.
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FireFoxx80
Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:37:00 -
[143]
Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Originally by: Erotic Irony Edited by: Erotic Irony on 06/12/2007 08:18:04
Quote: We have taken down the ability to download the Classic to Premium upgrade patch until we have determined where the issue lies and how we can resolve this. Full install clients have not exhibited this issue and are safe to download.
Just wanted some clarification: Is the 584mb patch here supposed to be disabled or has it already disappeared off the available patches page? The former is still downloadable.
We have fixed the issue in the patch and it is now available again.
I am testing the BITS service as I type.
So the BITS patch is fine in XP, the full client download is fine in XP; it's only people who downloaded the premium content patch between 02:00 and 08:00 who are affected?
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Odeweaver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kittamaru
Originally by: Odeweaver
Originally by: Kittamaru *deep blush* okay... i know why my PC was being uber...
I activated the diagnostic boot sequence (instead of fast boot) so I could see everything... when it tried to load the boot.ini, it couldn't find it. Instead of trying to use the backup, it scanned my PC for some file with a crazy name I wont' try to type out (maybe even a registry key entry, I'd have to check) and from there reconstructed the boot.ini. I know that's what it's doing because it says, and I quote:
warning: boot.ini not found scanning for local files constructing boot.ini
I have no idea what in the bloody hell that is... all the custom built rigs in our house are doing it... the two dells and the e-machine, don't. Very, vewwy strange indeed. Must be a custom-rig thing?
Big pc builders use a custom install.
I appreciate the compliment, but I'm no "big pc builder"... yes, I built most of the computers in our house myself. I have buying a PC and paying for labor plus a rig that just sucks... and most "pre made" pc's suck...
wasn't a compliment, your advice sucked and you were told so, yet still spread dis-information, i was talking about the dells and e-machines -------- Pie mmmm pie - Immy
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: proclaimed HERETIC on 06/12/2007 08:39:12
Originally by: DirtyHarry Edited by: DirtyHarry on 06/12/2007 07:17:08 CCP what about those with multiple boot systems? what are you going to suggest for them? the solution you gave there only applies to those who have 1 operating system installed on their PC and that that operating system is on the "default" location that windows puts it in, and not an extra partition.
If your popping a dual boot setup, you should know better. You always keep backups and boot disks for the custom setups. Sorry you got screwed, but you should always CYA. Lesson's learn by heartache I guess. Hopefully bootcfg can win that battle for you.
-proclaimed HERETIC
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Eutectic
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Eutectic on 06/12/2007 08:45:41 Edited by: Eutectic on 06/12/2007 08:43:37 Edited by: Eutectic on 06/12/2007 08:40:58 I predict /.'itness soon on this. And no I won't be submitting it.
This mistake is going to cost a lot of players real life money to fix. Many will not have even the slightest clue how to fix it or even realize that Eve caused the problem. If they own only a single PC they'll have no way of reading these forums etc. And as has been mentioned in many posts, most PC's come with OEM Restore disks that do not contain Windows Repair console the abil. For the tech inclined a missing boot.ini file is kind of a joke. Easy to fix and point and laugh at CCP for deleting it. For the people who's sole knowledge about computers is how to turn them on and use mouse and keyboard to start EVE, Word, or whatever it's going to be hell.
I've helped 3 of my corpmates so far fix this issue and every one of them has been extremely grateful in that if I didn't warn them and walk them through fix their only recourse later on would have been to pay someone like Geek Squad to fix it.
Classic case of very shoddy QA. Easy mistake to make yes, also extremely easy to catch. Did anyone at CCP even bother to install test the patch? No way this could have been missed with even cursory QA. Whoever signed off on the QA to release the patch deserves some serious re-calibration by CCP management.
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Irongut
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:41:00 -
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Looks like the installer created a backup of my boot.ini before it deleted it. The backup is in the root folder and called BOOT.BAK. This is on Win2k.
I've renamed the file to boot.ini and going for a reboot now. Will post back here if it works.
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Ratner
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:41:00 -
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\O/ CCP Nerfed Windows Yay.
Ok so my computer can't even run the recovery software any ideas?
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RedClaws
Amarr Dragon's Rage Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:41:00 -
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hehe You should put a plastic chicken on the desk of the one that programmed that. They used to do that when developing UT2004 : Everything a programmer messed something up you'd get "The Chicken!"
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Abbala Brutori
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:42:00 -
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Ok the error I'm getting is that my <windows root>\system32\hal.dill is mission or corrupt.....IDK what to do, and I'm starting to panic.
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