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Gran Masakari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:42:00 -
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Edited by: Gran Masakari on 06/12/2007 08:43:45 Does anyone know if boot.ini needs different parameters if you have the partition with windows striped across two hard drives with a Raid 0 Array?
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Pham Nuuwen
Free Traders Free Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:42:00 -
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This was an incredibly large mess-up and I expect CCP to be highly apologetic and pay reparations to the EVE community. A free week or so of subscription time ought to do it. Don't you have testing for this kind of thing... could it have been intentional?
Maybe I watch too many movies, but if I were you, I'd have some kind of inquiry as to how this possibly could have happened, and then gone live, devastating the computers that are the lifeblood of so, so many of your loyal customers.
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Gnomey
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:42:00 -
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Originally by: RedClaws hehe You should put a plastic chicken on the desk of the one that programmed that. They used to do that when developing UT2004 : Everything a programmer messed something up you'd get "The Chicken!"
I don't think the person who coded that bit will have a desk by the end of the week.
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Shodo Deka
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:43:00 -
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Edited by: Shodo Deka on 06/12/2007 08:43:21
Originally by: Kittamaru
Originally by: More Tono I'll just keep refreshing the page till somebody says something the "computer illerate" can understand. (sigh)
Simply put:
Take the code being supplied.
Copy it into a notepad document.
Save the document somewhere as boot.ini
Take that document and drop it into your root folder "C:" for most people.
Open the start menu and click run
type: attrib +s +h +a c:\boot.ini
I have added the missing step to your list in bold.
If you do not set the attribute of the file windows will not regonize it as a system file
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Gnomey
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:44:00 -
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Originally by: Gran Masakari Does anyone know if boot.ini is different if you have the partition with windows in a raid 0 across two hard drives?
raid 0 will not protect you against this.
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SiegesMorraeon
Gallente The Devil's Advocates
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:44:00 -
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Just heard about this problem from my corp. head and he helped me see if things were okay. I'm running the classic version, since I wasn't sure if my comp would handle the new graphics. It appears to be all right, since my boot.ini file was still there when with his help I tried to create a new one. But when I first went to check the System Configuration Tool, I got this message:
"It appears that the following line in the BOOT.INI file does not refer to a vaild operating system. "C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" / CMDCONS""
What is that and is there anything we can do about it? Frankly, I'm freaked out by this; I'm far from being the most computer savvy person out there and I'm fearful of having to make costly repairs to my computer. Help?
Thanks, in the meantime.
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Johnny Gurkha
Slow Deep and Hard
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:46:00 -
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Firstly: Windows 2000 user, seperate games drives for each Eve install - boot.ini still exists
Secondly: Trinity rocks
Thirdly: Epic fail as far as public relations is concerned
Fourthly: LOL at the name of this live Linux distribution that may help users inject a boot.ini into their Windows partition Trinity Rescue Kit
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Garborg
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:46:00 -
[158]
I predict happy holiday bussiness for Geek Squad.
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Savel
M. Corp Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:47:00 -
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I am currently running into a larger problem than what is discussed here so far. So I have fixed the boot.ini, by booting in linux, but the problem I am running into was created by the sisi patch before trinity came out. The reason I have come to this conclusion is because my desktop will not boot, and had the same symptoms as what has been described here. Now after rebuilding my boot.ini and restarting I get this message.
"Windows could not start because of an error in the software. Please report this problem as : load needed DLLs for kernel. Please contact your support person to report this problem."
I am putting a request into them for a fix. Before the boot.ini was fixed I was getting a hal.dll error saying it was corrupt.
But yeah, at least my linux actually will boot, so I can get the files I need this week off. |
Koti Resci
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:51:00 -
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Jesus ******* Christ. If I had rebooted and CCP had ****** up my computer, my subscription would be cancelled faster than you could say "pewpew".
I've been saying it from the get-go: CCP is incompetent. This only proves it.
As it is, my friend using a Mac dual-booted into Windows for EVE has already rebooted his computer and had already started using his Windows recovery disc. I imagine he won't be a happy camper when he finds out why.
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Irongut
M'8'S Frontal Impact
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Irongut Looks like the installer created a backup of my boot.ini before it deleted it. The backup is in the root folder and called BOOT.BAK. This is on Win2k.
I've renamed the file to boot.ini and going for a reboot now. Will post back here if it works.
PC rebooted perfectly, phew.
If your boot.ini is missing check for BOOT.BAK with a time around when you installed the graphics upgrade and rename it. This is a very simple solution.
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cinderbrood
Caldari Dark Prophecy Inc. Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Abbala Brutori
Should I run my recovery console? and will this cause mass data loss? What are my other options?
Entering the recovery console will NOT cause any dataloss, Provided u dont mess with things u shouldn't.
run the recovery console, Type "fixboot" without the "s press enter,
Windows should report something saying success or something ( been a while scince ive done it, dont recall exact text)
type exit, Press enter,
huzahh working pc.
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Daphne Eveningstar
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:53:00 -
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Originally by: SiegesMorraeon Just heard about this problem from my corp. head and he helped me see if things were okay. I'm running the classic version, since I wasn't sure if my comp would handle the new graphics. It appears to be all right, since my boot.ini file was still there when with his help I tried to create a new one. But when I first went to check the System Configuration Tool, I got this message:
"It appears that the following line in the BOOT.INI file does not refer to a vaild operating system. "C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" / CMDCONS""
What is that and is there anything we can do about it? Frankly, I'm freaked out by this; I'm far from being the most computer savvy person out there and I'm fearful of having to make costly repairs to my computer. Help?
Thanks, in the meantime.
This doesn't sound like a big deal. Seems to be saying you don't have the XP recovery console, which is an optional add-on, installed.
If that's the only error than you should be in good shape I'd think. It did find at least one good reference didn't it?
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Wimwyn
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:54:00 -
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I cannot be arsed reading 7 - 8 pages or searching forever. I have been away so not even started to download patch - simple question is this problem been fixed? if cant cant get confirmation then sod it will play something else till fixed.
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Lazarann
Ideal Machine
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:56:00 -
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Originally by: Wimwyn I cannot be arsed reading 7 - 8 pages or searching forever. I have been away so not even started to download patch - simple question is this problem been fixed? if cant cant get confirmation then sod it will play something else till fixed.
According to one of the last gold-bar posts we saw, yes it's fixed and the content that's currently available for download won't delete your boot.ini. However, if you're feeling paranoid, which is certainly understandable, just use the methods mentioned in the first post to check for your boot.ini after installing the patch. If it seems to be missing, follow the instructions to fix it, it's pretty simple to do.
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proclaimed HERETIC
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:57:00 -
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To request "free" stuff from CCP for this issue is absolutely idiotic. Perhaps you should go play World of Warcraft, where they charge... not only the subscription fee, but $50 for the game PLUS another $45 for a damn expansion. Yeah, this situation sucks, but obviously it was an accident. The flip side of all this is for them to delay expansions, hire 15 more programmers for testing, and jack up fees to compensate. To not only prove that they are a better company for providing free expansions, they ALSO spent the additional time to ensure people did not need to run out and by a SM3 compliant video card. Who else does that?
For people in this situation with their hands out, I'd much rather spit in their hands than give them anything else.
-proclaimed HERETIC
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:57:00 -
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whoever messed this up we will find you
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CCP Lingorm
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Posted - 2007.12.06 08:58:00 -
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Originally by: Wimwyn I cannot be arsed reading 7 - 8 pages or searching forever. I have been away so not even started to download patch - simple question is this problem been fixed? if cant cant get confirmation then sod it will play something else till fixed.
Yes Problem is fix in the new files available to download.
CCP Lingorm CCP Quality Assurance QA Engineering Team Leader
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Anew Menace
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:00:00 -
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Sorry to add to the long list of this thread, but some of us are not Computer Geeks. Heck, I just turn mine on to play games and type letters and check emails.
If something does not run right I just reinstall the damn thing.
The Quick Question I have is;
Does it matter what is in the boot file?
What was actually changed to make it not workà Just deleted or something changed.
I have to ask because I keep seeing everyoneÆs boot files with 30 seconds?
Mine says;
[boot loader] timeout=0 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
And not being a Computer Geek, I have no clue if the ôtimeout=0ö instead of ôtimeout-30ö is gona crash my system.
Sorry I know this is probably nothing, but not all of us are young or know computers all that well. I only know what I am told and told EXACTLY how to do it. If I see something out of place I think its wrong..
Sorry for the dumb post. Its probably nothing right?
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Useless alt
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:04:00 -
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Now that is by far the most DEV spam I have seen in a single thread so far.
Anyway, I see that right now there is no way to get to the premium content patch when having downloaded the clasic one.
The only question I have about all of this is how on earth could a patch system mess about with a boot.ini file? Because: - The file is not part of your system - There is no reason to try and update/alter it - There should under no circumstance be a 'del C:\boot.ini' command in any program
Then again if you are stupid enough to run any operating system with root rights you should expect and accept that these things will happen from time to time.
ps, CCP please add this scenario to your test cases for next time
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Yokan Daifuku
Gallente The Flaming Sideburn's Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:05:00 -
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Originally by: Anew Menace Sorry to add to the long list of this thread, but some of us are not Computer Geeks. Heck, I just turn mine on to play games and type letters and check emails.
If something does not run right I just reinstall the damn thing.
The Quick Question I have is;
Does it matter what is in the boot file?
What was actually changed to make it not workà Just deleted or something changed.
I have to ask because I keep seeing everyoneÆs boot files with 30 seconds?
Mine says;
[boot loader] timeout=0 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS
[operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(2)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptIn C:\CMDCONS\BOOTSECT.DAT="Microsoft Windows Recovery Console" /cmdcons
And not being a Computer Geek, I have no clue if the ôtimeout=0ö instead of ôtimeout-30ö is gona crash my system.
Sorry I know this is probably nothing, but not all of us are young or know computers all that well. I only know what I am told and told EXACTLY how to do it. If I see something out of place I think its wrong..
Sorry for the dumb post. Its probably nothing right?
timeout=0 is fine. Its just a technical parameter that needs to be a whole number that is greater than or equal to 0. ---- Yo-con Die-foo-koo |
George Petsch
Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:05:00 -
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As I posted in the other "OMG our 'puters gonna die threads", if you have SP2 installed a missing boot.ini will NOT kill your system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoYJyV0yRW8
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NeoTheo
Caldari Species 5618 R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Lingorm
Originally by: Wimwyn I cannot be arsed reading 7 - 8 pages or searching forever. I have been away so not even started to download patch - simple question is this problem been fixed? if cant cant get confirmation then sod it will play something else till fixed.
Yes Problem is fix in the new files available to download.
OHH GOOD, THAT HELPS.
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Alex Wildstar
Gallente Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:06:00 -
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I'm sorry, but what in the hell is CCP doing with code that even goes NEAR the boot.ini file? It has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with the game, it only has to do with passing the location of the OS boot files to the NT loader. There is absolutely no reason for them to have any code to muck around with this at all. This is almost right up there, with an "un-install" program years back in the Dos era that just deleted the C:\ Drive
But as we all know CCP devs don't make ANY mistakes at all, which is why they don't need testers.. Bah... Every other software company on the planet has testers to test their software before it releases, because DEVS MAKE LOUSY TESTERS, they are too arrogant and full of themselves, and only believe a program will be used one way.
Anyone that is giving CCP a pass on this doesn't have any knowledge of software development. This is absolutely idiotic...
It's like going to the doctor to treat a cold, and getting your arm chopped off.
I'm tired of CCP just saying, oh sorry, we screwed up, you can't play the game for hours/days, and no you won't get a refund of time lost because of our screwups. Oh and ship movement sounds is busted, but I guess the Devs didn't notice, because they were too busy congratulating themselves on whatever.
Bah..
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Trinkets
Minmatar Sten Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:06:00 -
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"We need to **** this up gentlemen, give me some ideas" "Sir, how about we delete some OS bootup files? That would be dandy!" "I like it, get to work boys!"
I¦ve never used this before so this is a world first: EPIC FAIL!
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Gothlarin
Caldari BlackSky inc. Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:07:00 -
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Originally by: Eevul Rabbite Edited by: Eevul Rabbite on 06/12/2007 07:04:01 Edited by: Eevul Rabbite on 06/12/2007 06:57:54
Originally by: Kittamaru JUST AN UPDATE:
Windows XP Service Pack 2 is apparently IMMUNE to this bug... I have tested this, so have my corpmates. If you have Win XP SP 2 (and you SHOULD) you should be just fine!
As others have already said, this is NOT TRUE. All versions of NT/2k/XP/2003 are affected. However, you're "immune" to this bug if you have EVE installed on a different drive/partition than the system.
Not quite immune.. i had windows on a different partition, still my boot got ruined..
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Alex Wildstar
Gallente Real Nice And Laidback Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Useless alt Now that is by far the most DEV spam I have seen in a single thread so far.
Anyway, I see that right now there is no way to get to the premium content patch when having downloaded the clasic one.
The only question I have about all of this is how on earth could a patch system mess about with a boot.ini file? Because: - The file is not part of your system - There is no reason to try and update/alter it - There should under no circumstance be a 'del C:\boot.ini' command in any program
Then again if you are stupid enough to run any operating system with root rights you should expect and accept that these things will happen from time to time.
ps, CCP please add this scenario to your test cases for next time
What test cases? Testing, what's that??
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Garborg
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:10:00 -
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Originally by: Useless alt The only question I have about all of this is how on earth could a patch system mess about with a boot.ini file? Because: - The file is not part of your system - There is no reason to try and update/alter it - There should under no circumstance be a 'del C:\boot.ini' command in any program
D:\Program Files\CCP\EVE\boot.ini
There is a file the Eve uses called boot.ini. Why name it that? Good question. Lucky for me my install was on D: drive while my OS was on C:
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Huldradans
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:12:00 -
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Edited by: Huldradans on 06/12/2007 09:17:02
Originally by: Alex Wildstar I'm sorry, but what in the hell is CCP doing with code that even goes NEAR the boot.ini file? It has absolutely NOTHING TO DO with the game, it only has to do with passing the location of the OS boot files to the NT loader. There is absolutely no reason for them to have any code to muck around with this at all. This is almost right up there, with an "un-install" program years back in the Dos era that just deleted the C:\ Drive
But as we all know CCP devs don't make ANY mistakes at all, which is why they don't need testers.. Bah... Every other software company on the planet has testers to test their software before it releases, because DEVS MAKE LOUSY TESTERS, they are too arrogant and full of themselves, and only believe a program will be used one way.
Anyone that is giving CCP a pass on this doesn't have any knowledge of software development. This is absolutely idiotic...
It's like going to the doctor to treat a cold, and getting your arm chopped off.
I'm tired of CCP just saying, oh sorry, we screwed up, you can't play the game for hours/days, and no you won't get a refund of time lost because of our screwups. Oh and ship movement sounds is busted, but I guess the Devs didn't notice, because they were too busy congratulating themselves on whatever.
Bah..
There are always mistakes made, this just so happens to be a _bad_ one.
EVE uses a file itself called boot.ini (bad idea, as someone else said, lets hope they dont use a file called grub.ini (linux)!!!), and what I imagine is, whoever made the updater method must have been thinking of C:\BOOT.INI instead of the one that relates to EVE, and in the updater method they made it delete c:\boot.ini instead of wherever the ini that relates to EVE was.
Oops
Edit: okay maybe they werent thinking of c:\boot.ini, but merely left out the full path of the boot.ini file relating to eve.
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Hoizon
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Posted - 2007.12.06 09:16:00 -
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could someone please put the recovery/fix procedure in simple terms. Because seriously I dont have a ******* clue what im doing when I mess with the system **** and I dont want to **** my comp OS up more than CCP already has.
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