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Drezzster
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2007.12.10 01:41:00 -
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Every time I have lost a large ship whilest soloing (by large ship I mean BS/CS) it has been due to gate camps. I was just wondering if this is the same for others and how they get around it. Does everyone have a scouting alt?
I think my problem is that the areas I hunt in are not controlled by any one pirate corp. It's pretty much a free for all. But isn't that the same for most areas of low sec? or is it?
I check the map for pod killing hot spots and avoid choke points buy it's still ineffectual, so I have pretty much resigned myself to smaller faster ships that can get away. But battleships are more fun =/
Am I just unlucky or is this common?
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Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:12:00 -
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BC/BS are not meant to be solo ships.
Try a HAC, Recon or even something smaller like EAS, Interceptors, etc.
(Or, fit nanoooo) ===== |
techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:26:00 -
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Sleipnir? ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :)
Originally by: kessah -notice the fact the are all nearly Amarr and Amarr do not suck.
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Awox
Advanced Logistics
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Posted - 2007.12.10 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: techzer0 Sleipnir?
It's a poor solo ship, even nano'd the slow warp time in combination with the slow lock means the chances of locking someone trying to run away from you is very slim.
That, and if you fit a web you have a very weak tank.
But yes, it's very good at killing people not stupid enough to run away, or look at local.. but then, most of those people don't drop decent loot anyways. ===== |
3nkil
The Chocolate Factory
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Awox BC/BS are not meant to be solo ships.
Try a HAC, Recon or even something smaller like EAS, Interceptors, etc.
(Or, fit nanoooo)
How exactly are you going to tank sentry guns in anything below a BC without a frig blowing you up with help from sentry guns?
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DarknessInc
Minmatar Pastry Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.10 03:45:00 -
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didnt I kill you?
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.10 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: 3nkil
Originally by: Awox BC/BS are not meant to be solo ships.
Try a HAC, Recon or even something smaller like EAS, Interceptors, etc.
(Or, fit nanoooo)
How exactly are you going to tank sentry guns in anything below a BC without a frig blowing you up with help from sentry guns?
belt pvp
now is the at you or at the thought of belt piracy
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.10 07:58:00 -
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I got someone in a belt once
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton thats a boot.ini a file used by windows
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Niffetin
Gallente CONsordium Infinate
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Posted - 2007.12.10 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Awox BC/BS are not meant to be solo ships.
Try a HAC, Recon or even something smaller like EAS, Interceptors, etc.
(Or, fit nanoooo)
Awox is becoming funnier every day.
WTS: Armageddon / Void L / Mobile Large Warp Disruptor |
Drezzster
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2007.12.10 10:18:00 -
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Originally by: Awox BC/BS are not meant to be solo ships.
Try a HAC, Recon or even something smaller like EAS, Interceptors, etc.
(Or, fit nanoooo)
If they aren't meant to be solo ships why are they used so often for that exact purpose? Just look at the "top 10 pirate ships" thread. Almost every persons list includes at least one BS.
Also battleships drop the best loot so you want to be killing them! but thats not so easy in a HAC...
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Drezzster
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2007.12.10 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc didnt I kill you?
If your asking me, no you didn't. Not according to my kill mails anyway.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.10 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Drezzster
If they aren't meant to be solo ships why are they used so often for that exact purpose? Just look at the "top 10 pirate ships" thread. Almost every persons list includes at least one BS.
Also battleships drop the best loot so you want to be killing them! but thats not so easy in a HAC...
They are used for gate camping...and rarely are gate camps solo affairs, but that is why they appear in favourite pirate ship threads.
And as for your comment about HACs not being able to kill battleships easily...
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.10 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Drezzster
If they aren't meant to be solo ships why are they used so often for that exact purpose? Just look at the "top 10 pirate ships" thread. Almost every persons list includes at least one BS.
Also battleships drop the best loot so you want to be killing them! but thats not so easy in a HAC...
They are used for gate camping...and rarely are gate camps solo affairs, but that is why they appear in favourite pirate ship threads.
And as for your comment about HACs not being able to kill battleships easily...
It depends on the HAC and the battleship (battleships in my case, yeah, I lost )
Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton thats a boot.ini a file used by windows
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Zhaine
Huff Technologies
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Posted - 2007.12.10 12:40:00 -
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Edited by: Zhaine on 10/12/2007 12:41:14 Edit: typed a reply but it got eaten by the forums. . . ah well.
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Drezzster
The Phoenix Rising
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:18:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Drezzster
And as for your comment about HACs not being able to kill battleships easily...
Why? If you have two equally skilled pilots one in a HAC and one in a BS the BS pilot will win if they have a web. In my experiance anyway (with a blaster rokh)...
Hacs do less damage and have a worse or possible equal tank, there main advantage is that they are hard to hit, get them webbed and they go down like a sack of ****.
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SloBones
mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Drezzster
If they aren't meant to be solo ships why are they used so often for that exact purpose? Just look at the "top 10 pirate ships" thread. Almost every persons list includes at least one BS.
Also battleships drop the best loot so you want to be killing them! but thats not so easy in a HAC...
They are used for gate camping...and rarely are gate camps solo affairs, but that is why they appear in favourite pirate ship threads.
And as for your comment about HACs not being able to kill battleships easily...
This is absolutely correct. BS/CS are gate camp ships pirates gate camp hence being top 10 ships. But if you were to poll favorite roaming pirate ships or solo pirate ships your answers would be very different.
For solo piracy I would use a HAC or Recon or even AF. I'm guessing others do the same. If you want to go roaming in a BC you better bring friends. I would only go roaming in a BC if there was more than just 1 in the fleet. Solo BC/BS = Dead meat and good loot
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Gin Moon
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Posted - 2007.12.10 22:41:00 -
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Maybe it's because I'm a little crazy, but I don't lose ships at gate camps in low sec. I've come close once or twice, but they are easy to get out of if you are quick thinking enough.
Hell I'll afk at a gate for a minute or two and still feel pretty safe most of the time. If you are hunting and need a scout, maybe you shouldn't be hunting? Now if you are trying to move your expensive lvl 4 mission ship around, yeah, I can see how a scout might be alright, but still...
Might want to move down to where I live... not a whole lot of gate camping.
And I got a Caracal and then a Drake at belts the other night. Just barely missed a stabber... he warped in a little far for me to scram him and warped out as soon as he saw people in the belt. Smart guy.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Drezzster
Why? If you have two equally skilled pilots one in a HAC and one in a BS the BS pilot will win if they have a web. In my experiance anyway (with a blaster rokh)...
Hacs do less damage and have a worse or possible equal tank, there main advantage is that they are hard to hit, get them webbed and they go down like a sack of ****.
Better bring an officer web then, I will be orbiting you at 20km doing 4k/s Web that in a BS.
I dont care about your dps, as I am slowly eating your tank away. If I flew Ishtar, I would be orbiting you at 3k/s and melting your tank.
Good luck trying to web a half decent hac pilot in a BS
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Requiescat
Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Drezzster
Why? If you have two equally skilled pilots one in a HAC and one in a BS the BS pilot will win if they have a web. In my experiance anyway (with a blaster rokh)...
Hacs do less damage and have a worse or possible equal tank, there main advantage is that they are hard to hit, get them webbed and they go down like a sack of ****.
Better bring an officer web then, I will be orbiting you at 20km doing 4k/s Web that in a BS.
I dont care about your dps, as I am slowly eating your tank away. If I flew Ishtar, I would be orbiting you at 3k/s and melting your tank.
Good luck trying to web a half decent hac pilot in a BS
How about try flying a real HAC, nano*****
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Newbear
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Posted - 2007.12.11 10:22:00 -
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Edited by: Newbear on 11/12/2007 10:23:52 I usually lose my ships while afk on missions. Good way to avoid gate camps is to put 1 bs + 1 looter in every system your agent sends you to mission in. This way you can fly by with a shuttle or inty and heckle gate camps with ease
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum Nex Super Vos
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Posted - 2007.12.11 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Drezzster
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Drezzster
And as for your comment about HACs not being able to kill battleships easily...
Why? If you have two equally skilled pilots one in a HAC and one in a BS the BS pilot will win if they have a web. In my experiance anyway (with a blaster rokh)...
Hacs do less damage and have a worse or possible equal tank, there main advantage is that they are hard to hit, get them webbed and they go down like a sack of ****.
Yeah, and the hac pilot won't get in webrange unless he is stupid or make a huge misstake. Last time I flew my Ishtar I took down a Raven and Rokh in the same fight.. so forgive me but I must also at that statement.
Acerbus-Vindictum - Revelare Pecunia!
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Strife Phoenix
Acerbus Vindictum Nex Super Vos
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Posted - 2007.12.11 10:30:00 -
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Originally by: Requiescat
How about try flying a real HAC, nano*****
Is that like saying AWP***** in CS? If so it's kind of lame. Any tools available is allowed..
Acerbus-Vindictum - Revelare Pecunia!
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Donna Maria
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.11 12:55:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Drezzster
Why? If you have two equally skilled pilots one in a HAC and one in a BS the BS pilot will win if they have a web. In my experiance anyway (with a blaster rokh)...
Hacs do less damage and have a worse or possible equal tank, there main advantage is that they are hard to hit, get them webbed and they go down like a sack of ****.
Better bring an officer web then, I will be orbiting you at 20km doing 4k/s Web that in a BS.
I dont care about your dps, as I am slowly eating your tank away. If I flew Ishtar, I would be orbiting you at 3k/s and melting your tank.
Good luck trying to web a half decent hac pilot in a BS
I hope I run into you in Curse in my Neut Domi. Orbit me at 20k if you want and I will be looting your wreck or watching you run..
Im the girl momma warned you about..
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