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gpfwestie
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: gpfwestie on 13/12/2007 20:05:35 Is it worth trying ?
I can fly barges (not exhumers) and Battleships. Given the likely-hood of being ganked on a gate, or caught in a belt - is there a way of doing this which makes sense financially ?
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: gpfwestie Edited by: gpfwestie on 13/12/2007 20:05:35 Is it worth trying ?
I can fly barges (not exhumers) and Battleships. Given the likely-hood of being ganked on a gate, or caught in a belt - is there a way of doing this which makes sense financially ?
do it in a cruiser and keep hitting the scan button every 3 seconds, you will eventually die but hopefully you will make more isk then you loose ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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omiNATION
Gallente Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:09:00 -
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mining what? Jaspet? There's nothing of worth you can mine faster to make losing a ship profitable compared to high sec farming.
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: omiNATION mining what? Jaspet? There's nothing of worth you can mine faster to make losing a ship profitable compared to high sec farming.
shhh dont ruin it for everyone ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Exlegion
Caldari New Light Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:14:00 -
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Edited by: Exlegion on 13/12/2007 20:16:44 Mining in low sec will set you back isk-wise. You'll either be dodging pirates every 5-10 minutes or dying to them. Mine in high sec or 0.0 (under a friendly alliance flag).
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Guru |
gpfwestie
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:20:00 -
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Pretty much as I suspected, the ores that could make it worth while (Crokite, Bistot etc) are not there.
One day I will work out what the point of lo-sec is I guess.
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: gpfwestie Pretty much as I suspected, the ores that could make it worth while (Crokite, Bistot etc) are not there.
One day I will work out what the point of lo-sec is I guess.
jsut go to amarr space ang mine kernite, you wont be sorry ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
jsut go to amarr space and mine kernite in high sec, you wont be sorry
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Arvald
Caldari Trinion Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: Venkul Mul
Originally by: Arvald
jsut go to amarr space and mine kernite in high sec, you wont be sorry
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yeah.....yeah high sec.....right ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2007.12.13 20:44:00 -
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I once decided to try out lowsec mining. So I fitted a Exequror with mining lasers, expanders, a cloak and some drones and went for a calm spot in lowsec. I was most of the time alone, mining undisturbed, and when someone entered the system i just cloaked and waited for the ship to go away.
It was a utter waste of time.
Only thing I learned there was using the scanner to check out what the people were up to. I must say, it's a funny feeling, sitting cloaked in a belt where someone else is killing the rats, hoping that nothing gets close enough to uncloak you....
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:11:00 -
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don't listen to these trolls. there are great roids in lowsec, you just have to find the right belt to make it worth the risk. amamake 3-1 comes to mind...
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Myshella Drake
Caldari Eishie
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:35:00 -
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Edited by: Myshella Drake on 13/12/2007 21:36:25 Have you considered looking for hidden asteroid belts in low sec using exploration. Its possible for you to find either Crokite, Dark Ochre, Gneiss or Spodumain, all deepspace ores and far better to whats in the standard low sec belts. In addition you are somewhat safer mining because you will need to be probed out in order to be found. Just hit the scanner every so often to see if someones dropping probes ------------------
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Taedrin
Gallente Magellan Exploration and Survey Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:41:00 -
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Back before The Great Tritanium Shortage, mining jaspet and kernite in low sec had HUGE pay offs. Find a nice backwater system, get some friends to help you and you were raking in some serious ISK. However, since high-end minerals are dropping in price, you can make more money mining veldspar than low-sec ores (seriously!). On the other hand, the roids are so much bigger in backwater low-sec systems...
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Nur Vadenn
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.12.13 21:44:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady don't listen to these trolls. there are great roids in lowsec, you just have to find the right belt to make it worth the risk. amamake 3-1 comes to mind...
Wow... As far as traps go this is about as settle as a swift kick in the groin.
It has been said many times in many threads that low-sec mining is, has been, and for the foreseeable future will be without profit. Pirates have ensured that someone mining in low-sec will loose their ship, its just a matter of time.
Besides, based on current mineral prices isn't it more profitable to mine veldspar and scordite? I think you find those asteroids in every belt in EVE high-sec included.
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Xauxau
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Posted - 2007.12.13 23:03:00 -
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Originally by: Myshella Drake
Its possible for you to find either Crokite, Dark Ochre, Gneiss or Spodumain, all deepspace ores and far better to whats in the standard low sec belts.
This _might_ have made sense pre-Trinity.
But since Trinity I've seen deepspace ore during mining missions in hi-sec.
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Myshella Drake
Caldari Eishie
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Posted - 2007.12.13 23:57:00 -
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Edited by: Myshella Drake on 13/12/2007 23:57:16
Originally by: Xauxau
Originally by: Myshella Drake
Its possible for you to find either Crokite, Dark Ochre, Gneiss or Spodumain, all deepspace ores and far better to whats in the standard low sec belts.
This _might_ have made sense pre-Trinity.
But since Trinity I've seen deepspace ore during mining missions in hi-sec.
1)It_does_make sense pre-trinity
2)okayyy.....what level mining missions?. I don't think you can sell ore from mining missions, not even sure if you can reprocess it, and if you did how can you complete the mission and get the payment,LP and standings?. Unless you want to lose all your standings with the agent its Not really a feasible argument IMO ------------------
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centurion zulu
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Posted - 2007.12.14 07:55:00 -
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Originally by: gpfwestie Edited by: gpfwestie on 13/12/2007 20:05:35 Is it worth trying ?
I can fly barges (not exhumers) and Battleships. Given the likely-hood of being ganked on a gate, or caught in a belt - is there a way of doing this which makes sense financially ?
Where do you plan on mining in low sec. at. I'll bring my hac and help you out. :-)
YARRRrrrrr.
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Kessiaan
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Posted - 2007.12.14 08:06:00 -
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Doing belt mining in lowsec is a waste of time. The extra ISK you might earn is more than offset by having to dock all the time to avoid pirates and replacing the occasional loss.
Exploration mining in gravimetric sites is a whole different story though. Lowsec sites usually have loads of hugely valuable Zydrine, along with Megacyte and Nocxium (if that even counts). The average Joe Pirate doesn't have the skills, patience, and/or equipment to scan you down in a deadspace so you lose a lot less time from not having to dock up.
That said you must watch the directional scanner like a hawk if you want to be successful because you'll still run into occasional harassment. If a pirate does meet the above three criteria you still need to dock. Just set the directional scanner for 360 degrees, max range, refresh every 20 seconds or so, look for scanner probes, of any type. If you see one dock up. You are 100% safe as long as you remain vigilant. Start slacking off and someone might catch you while you're not paying attention. ----- My in Eve Profile |
Gallente Citizen 457
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Posted - 2007.12.14 08:48:00 -
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Also, I can recommend fitting 2 ECCMs instead of shield hardeners on a Hulk. In deadspace, that will knock your chance to be scanned on any one try down to a really small number, and the resists are not really a problem.
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Trilium Eagle
Gallente MegaTech Enterprises Sempiternus
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Posted - 2007.12.14 09:16:00 -
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Edited by: Trilium Eagle on 14/12/2007 09:17:47 Sadly as of patch before trinity hidden belts are no longer deadspace.
This means: Anyone who has skills can find you using probes quite easily. Good thing is that longest range probes usually don't give 0km warp in spot and using directional scanner should be enough to spot any probe to close to your location. ECCM's will help avoiding being pinned down to fast because they should reduce scan accuracy with chance for finding. Also avoid having drones put out because you are giving multiple targets to scan then. Also remeber that one scan on ship like covert ops can take less than 30 seconds :D
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.12.14 11:09:00 -
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Problem is that low-sec ores mostly aren't worth too much, and you'll make much better isk just belt ratting in a destroyer.
Rifters!
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