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Possy Galore
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Posted - 2007.12.15 11:34:00 -
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Anyway got theories on what has happened with the missile markets? I see that the volume of sold missiles has gone down and the price has fallen to a level that makes manufacturing of them unprofitable.
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Thendementhord
Caldari
Ikani Incorporated
Omega Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.15 11:48:00 -
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are you talking about T2 missiles?
Faction missiles do almost as much damage, as the hi-damage T2 versions, but without any drawback, and no need to fit a T2 launcher.
Also T2 material prices jumped because of the introduction of new T2 ships.
(if T1 missiles, than just buy up, and reprocess/sell them somewhere else. Stupid industrialists can apperar anywhere)
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Burchov
Lyrus Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.15 12:46:00 -
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Trinity also reduced the manufacturing time for T2 missiles by a factor 4-5.
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smenkhare
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.15 21:23:00 -
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dunno.
my devastators aren't selling as well as they were.
my torps aren't selling too well either but that's understandable.
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Possy Galore
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Posted - 2007.12.15 23:02:00 -
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I was mostly thinking about the torps, but the effect is amasing. People are just producing and selling it with loss.
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smenkhare
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.16 01:19:00 -
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the torp sales would be from the nerf they got.
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Enden Assulu
Caldari
Ironbrow Industries Co.
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.12.16 20:54:00 -
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My devastators are selling really well originally i sold them for 120-30 ISK now its 200+ so you are ovbously selling some where random im in the forge :D Jita ftw
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Helix Fluxx
Caldari
Contempo Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.17 05:39:00 -
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All of the missiles I produce are built with materials I've mined myself, so rather than pay market based mineral prices for minerals I can mine in hi-sec space and make a loss on the sales, I can choose my own price for the produced items and make a profit.
Also mining my own stuff means I end up with excesses of materials I don't need, which again are sold for profit on the markets.
That said I mainly deal with Heavy class missiles and so far I only play with the T1 stuff.
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Falka Lakadaka
Gallente
BakaLakadaka Street
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Posted - 2007.12.17 05:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Helix Fluxx
All of the missiles I produce are built with materials I've mined myself, so rather than pay market based mineral prices for minerals I can mine in hi-sec space and make a loss on the sales, I can choose my own price for the produced items and make a profit.
Also mining my own stuff means I end up with excesses of materials I don't need, which again are sold for profit on the markets.
That said I mainly deal with Heavy class missiles and so far I only play with the T1 stuff.
How the hell is this a profit. You mine and then spend more ISK to turn the minerals into something that you sell for less than the minerals?
Why bother, just sell the minerals. Eventually when no-one is making missiles anymore, the prices will rise again and you step back in to a profitable market.
Personally, unless I can make a minimum of 25% on the mineral value, I just sell the minerals. I'd rather use my valuable skills to use factory slots for profitable items.
In the meantime, I'm happy to buy your missiles, turn them into minerals and make something profitable. It's a lot easier than mining my own and cheaper than buying minerals on the market.
Cheers
Falka
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Helix Fluxx
.. some bs about: "what I mine is free" ..
LOL
You're an idiot in economics.
If this wasn't a game you would be bankrupt by the end of the month.
Well.. at least the resellers will capatilaize on your dullness, buy your missiles, reprocess them and sell the minerals for a profit..
And maybe you'll get wardecced also.. I mean, idocy needs to be punished, doesn't it?
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Falka Lakadaka
Gallente
BakaLakadaka Street
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Posted - 2007.12.17 12:34:00 -
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Well, I wouldn't go so far as a war dec in this case. Why stuff up such a great source of cheap minerals.
Cheers
Falka
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: smenkhare
the torp sales would be from the nerf they got.
You mean the massive boost they got?
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Michael Caldar
DangerZone Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:14:00 -
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Originally by: Juha85
Originally by: smenkhare
the torp sales would be from the nerf they got.
You mean the massive boost they got?
Yeah... that one... Set your torpedos fitted ship against, say, a Guristas Destroyer (they keep at 50K range) and see how well you do. With those "massively boosted" torpedoes of yours...  The ROF at which you'll be wasting them is gonna be pretty good though, that's a bonus, right? 
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Exlegion
Caldari
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Juha85
Originally by: smenkhare
the torp sales would be from the nerf they got.
You mean the massive boost they got?
Yes. This massive boost is the reason they're so cheap .
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Michael Caldar
Originally by: Juha85
Originally by: smenkhare
the torp sales would be from the nerf they got.
You mean the massive boost they got?
Yeah... that one... Set your torpedos fitted ship against, say, a Guristas Destroyer (they keep at 50K range) and see how well you do. With those "massively boosted" torpedoes of yours... The ROF at which you'll be wasting them is gonna be pretty good though, that's a bonus, right?
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Yes, and then use the same torpedoes to totally pwn a megathron in pvp or a kronos for that matter. But I agree its a "nerf" to torp market since most of the old torp users were npc'rs going afk in their ravens. This in turn increases the demand for cruises which were better for most missions even before (aside from the bs heavy ones)
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Exlegion
Caldari
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.17 16:59:00 -
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Originally by: Juha85
Yes, and then use the same torpedoes to totally pwn a megathron in pvp or a kronos for that matter. But I agree its a "nerf" to torp market since most of the old torp users were npc'rs going afk in their ravens. This in turn increases the demand for cruises which were better for most missions even before (aside from the bs heavy ones)
Actually, cruise-Raven was always the way to go if you wanted to semi-afk missions. Pre-Trinity, torp-Ravens required heavy micro-managing in missions but were well worth the extra work.
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