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CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.05 09:51:00 -
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This is one of those times when it IS appropriate to tell the OP to 'go back to WoW.
Doing this would destroy Eve. I've got better things to do than farm XP.
Lol I just noticed you spelt 'ridiculous' as 'rEdiculous'. That just about tells me all I need to know about the mind from which this terrible thread sprang forth. |
CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.05 20:54:00 -
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MadMuppet wrote:You gain experience in this game by playing, you just don't get to see it on the character sheet as some sort of point scoring system. :)
Bingo. The real skills are learnt from playing and learning game mechanics and strategies. You're so hung up on skill points because you haven't played the game long enough and/or you are carebearing muppets with no drive or imagination.
I, for one, hope to be playing Eve in 10 years time. Many of us are in it for the long term. Easy skill points will destroy the longevity of Eve. |
CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.05 20:59:00 -
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Rat Farmer wrote:
...well, at least the wow people are earning their levels...
Lul. |
CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.06 20:31:00 -
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Rat Farmer wrote:Also, if anyone knows anything about business, a new hire is one of your greatest assets. A new person sees things that most long term employees perceive as the norm or have fallen into a routine and just do their tasks like mindless robots. IGÇÖm not saying that every new employee has great ideas, but every so often the company is presented with something that can change their entire business model. On the flip side to that, if you present most long term employees with a change, they shun it as they are afraid of the unknown.
Now apply this to EVE. The new player has a fresh perspective on what they see or how they interact in EVE. When a new player sees things and poses questions on a public forum you sometimes get rubbish and sometimes get little gems. Not everything is a great idea, but not everything is worthless. Some of the old players need to take a step back and broaden their horizons to what can be change whether itGÇÖs construed as good or badGǪ
Anyway, I'm done with this thread.
Go away, you are clueless. Eve has outlasted all other mmorpgs by not pandering to simpletons. |
CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 06:22:00 -
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Rat Farmer wrote:I still think it's funny how many people say to go back to WOW or (name random mmo here) because EVE is hardcore and blah, blah, blah.
As I stated earlier, I actually like EVE, I just think that the passive skill point grind is crazy and there will never be a level playing field per se. I paid for 6 months, so IGÇÖll see how I feel when itGÇÖs time for me to re-subscribe, until then IGÇÖll post my thoughts as I feel inclined. So, no, I wonGÇÖt go biomass myself, I wonGÇÖt give you stuff, I wonGÇÖt go hang myself in the closet next to your mother and I wonGÇÖt shut up or play another gameGǪ
That saidGǪ I personally know 5 people that wonGÇÖt even try EVE because they say that they will always be so far behind everyone else in EVE when it comes to skill training. Yes, you can be somewhat productive in 3 weeks; I have but I donGÇÖt think that IGÇÖm anywhere near ready to PVP against another active pilot (IGÇÖm not talking about a miner or hauler) even if they are in a frigate as well if theyGÇÖve been playing a couple of more months or years then me.
The game is what it is, is CCP going to change? Probably not. Does that mean that people are not subscribing because they donGÇÖt like the passive training? Definitely!
You've acknowledged the fact that you are new to the game, yet you claim to have a better understanding of it than people who have played for years. Do you not see that it's your understanding of the game that might be flawed?
I'll try and address some of the points you've made. You claim that new players are put off by being too far behind older players but this is just a misunderstanding on their part, perpetuated by idiots such as yourself. There is plenty for a new player to do in the couple of months it takes to get ones core skills. After that, a 6 month old player in a frigate is the same as a six year old player in a frigate in terms of skill points. Do you understand that?
What do you think will happen to the longevity and general gameplay of the game if skill points come easy and everyone is flying super caps? You've failed to look at the consequences of your suggestion and are just crying like a child in a toy shop unable to buy all the toys at once. Eve isn't about instant gratification yet you want to make it that way.
You've also forced me to play the WoW card. As someone who was dedicated to the game (top 100 world raiding guild, rank 14 pvp etc) I can tell you that making the game more accessible killed it. It belittled the efforts of the hardcore players and drove them away from the game. Without the hardcore players the game started to die. Why? Because in Mmos it's the players that create a large part of the culture and meaning to the game. This is even more the case with Eve.
It's not only about attracting subscribers for CCP. It's about the quality of the subscribers and their effect on the game long term. Wow refugees such as yourself (no doubt you never played wow in vanilla or you would know the damage your attitude can cause to an MMO) have yet to understand how Eve works and still have the affront to try to mould the game into what you naively want it to be. This is why you've been met with disgust from many in this thread.
I suggest you get to actually know the game before you come onto the forums raging that you have 7 days left for frigate V. Come back in a year and post. If you still feel this way I'll be astonished but at least you'll be in a better position to talk about it.
As it is, you're a first year Arts student trying to argue with an army of Noam Chomskys. |
CausticS0da
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:45:00 -
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My reply was lost to the ether so I'll just say that I do fly frigates. Pretty much all high sp, active, pvp players love to fly frigates.
If you want to make money in your frigate, do Angel Sound arc. You seem clever enough and I'm sure you'll come up with ideas to make money once you've completed that.
Don't take the tone of some of the replies in this thread personally. Let me know in a year's time if you still endorse OPs ideas. |
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