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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 03:39:00 -
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Edited by: Ufl on 16/12/2007 03:40:24 NUCON STOCK EXCHANGE Click to go sign-up as a trader, corporation owner, or a broker.
Nucon Stock Exchange will be accepting the first wave of traders and CEO's who sign up to test our application. We expect to start letting all traders in on December 20th 2007.
The website looks and runs great from an out of game browser, and is extremely simple to use. Most of the website is accessible through the in-game-browser, although a bit crude it gets the job done and displays everything you would need in active day to day trading.
We currently feature a section for each corporation owner to update their corporation and add members or traders who join - as well as a News Story Public Relations report that is reported directly onto the NUEX NEWSWIRE Live Feed for all investors to see.
An active ticker is always ready and counting on the home page, keeping all players well aware of all orders on the market, making transactions easier and faster.
Now stop wasting time and go sing up on the NUEX! http://www.NuconCorporation.com
JOIN US IN EVE CHANNEL: Nucon Stock Exchange or NUEX Contact Ufl in game, via email: [email protected] , or via the messanger built in to NUEX. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.12.16 03:54:00 -
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And you are...?
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.12.16 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Motivated Prophet And you are...?
MP
I don't know about him, but I know you're a little twerp.
Y'know, the dude may have had a rough start and a bad idea of how things worked, but it's clear he's trying to accomplish something here, and is working pretty hard at it.
So, until you get a little more mature, stick to lurking.
It's a neat idea, it's relatively new in the implementation of the idea, and it wouldn't hurt to start seeing more creative things pop up like this.
So find yourself another thread to shun people and let the guy introduce his idea. If you don't like it, or honestly don't know who he is, he has a link to his previous thread.
Ufl, I don't know how well this is going to kick off considering your previous interaction with everyone. I think it's really neat that you're still trying and have accepted your initial methods were wrong, and hopefully we can see some progress from this.
The new layout is much nicer looking as well.
Good luck.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 04:09:00 -
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thanks
I grew a beard and long hair because of the time spent building that app. Good camping trip cleared up the brain though and Ill be ready to do more updates soon. Looking for beta testers who dont mind giving bug reports or feedback on possible changes or additions.
Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.12.16 04:11:00 -
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Edited by: Motivated Prophet on 16/12/2007 04:12:27
Originally by: Riethe If you don't like it, or honestly don't know who he is, he has a link to his previous thread.
You're right, I hadn't looked in his .sig for the link to the "previous thread". As far as I could tell, this was coming out of left field.
I've noted the link, and I'll visit it tomorrow. If it's a vital part of his presentation, I'd suggest moving it into the body of his announcement, however, as most people, like me, tend to skip over .sigs.
MP --
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.16 04:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl thanks
Becareful who speaks up for you. Riethe recently scammed this community for 40 billion or so (no reason to disbelieve him). You might want to avoid his good graces unless you want him to be your only customer. Originally by: Ufl I grew a beard and long hair because of the time spent building that app. Good camping trip cleared up the brain though and Ill be ready to do more updates soon. Looking for beta testers who dont mind giving bug reports or feedback on possible changes or additions.
Congratulations on upgrading your web site and web application. Have you made any progress or changes to your "service" in any other regard? I mean having a nice web app (or the appearance of one) does not solely an exchange make.
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Riethe
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Posted - 2007.12.16 05:15:00 -
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Hey now.
I was speaking up for him as much as I was speaking down to Motivated Prophet.
My comments regarding it were pretty neutral and not exactly positive.
The guy started out very badly and had a really weird perspective on what people expected.
So hopefully he's adjusted to accommodate what the public requires and will see some success from his new layout and new perspective.
Doesn't really mean anything, just an observation.
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Ambo
2nd Outcasters
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Posted - 2007.12.16 09:05:00 -
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Hi again Ufl.
You've obviously worked pretty hard on this and it looks good, just like the old version looked good.
I'm guessing you still have the same rules and stuff as when you last posted. I'm sure there is a place for this kind of thing, I just can't quite see where...
The idea of totaly secured shares and trading of shares is great but I just don't think your implementation is practical or flexible enough to be usefull. Particularly from the corporation owner's point of view.
You also have the problem of trust, being a new comer, you have no rep here and it will take a long time to build one.
I wish you luck with this, I fear you will need it.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 13:20:00 -
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Still have room for approximately 30 more beta testers! Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.16 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl Still have room for approximately 30 more beta testers!
Respond to Ambo.
Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
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Catchura
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Posted - 2007.12.16 13:41:00 -
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Nice work. will give this a try as a broker :)
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.16 14:05:00 -
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I think there's room for this to at least be given a shot by those who want to try. His other thread was hammered pretty badly, I say we just let this one flow and let those who are interested, ask questions and what not.
My 2c - not condoning nor admonishing this btw.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ambo Hi again Ufl.
You've obviously worked pretty hard on this and it looks good, just like the old version looked good.
I'm guessing you still have the same rules and stuff as when you last posted. I'm sure there is a place for this kind of thing, I just can't quite see where...
The idea of totaly secured shares and trading of shares is great but I just don't think your implementation is practical or flexible enough to be usefull. Particularly from the corporation owner's point of view.
You also have the problem of trust, being a new comer, you have no rep here and it will take a long time to build one.
I wish you luck with this, I fear you will need it.
Thanks
Im going to try hard to keep this working, and make it function correctly - as for the rules they are still exactly the same. When it comes to scamming I can see that in this game there are no stops, there are no lines, we are in the wild west of the universe and self rule is law... fortunately by taking collateral, just like courier missions, we can avoid the risk almost completely.
We will be fast and firm on our beliefs and ruleset - amendments will be made later - and a report section will be added soon for player comments and suggestions.
Soon we will be seeking trusted players who will be able to join the board of directors of NUEX, and trusted brokers who will make deals during different time zones. I invite everyone here to become a part of this, and will provide them will all necessary means of communication through the website.
All corporate owners right now will be able to create a corporation profile and homepage on our site - with shares available, price, net assets, etc listed. CEO's can also issued NEWSWIRE PR's that are available to all traders to see.
The greatest part is that all of this is functional through the in game browser!
24 Slots left for BETA !
Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 14:14:00 -
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Anyone who signs up now will not be able to view the trades, BUY/SELL, etc until their account is approved. This is a manual process and can take between 12-48 hours.
Brokers must be bonded with the corporation and we will be putting out more news on that as more corporations become listed and the necessity for brokers grows. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Subayai
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Posted - 2007.12.16 14:22:00 -
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My compliments on the interface, it looks sleek and clean!
-Sub.
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Ratcattle
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Posted - 2007.12.16 14:55:00 -
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I really appreciate the work of Ufl! I already bought some shares using his application and everything worked fine. You should give it a try, too.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:46:00 -
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Originally by: Ratcattle I really appreciate the work of Ufl! I already bought some shares using his application and everything worked fine. You should give it a try, too.
This is when I'd love to be able to check IP addresses to see who's alt this is.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:47:00 -
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Am I correct in saying that the crux of your business proposal revolves around CEOs securing collateral with yourself to back the values of their shares so they can sell them on your exchange?
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.12.16 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
Originally by: Ratcattle I really appreciate the work of Ufl! I already bought some shares using his application and everything worked fine. You should give it a try, too.
This is when I'd love to be able to check IP addresses to see who's alt this is.
You and me both.
While I have nothing but good things to say about the technical execution of this (based on what I've seen so far) the policies behind the mechanices are questionable and of course...there is the entire open question of the ethics and credability of those running NUEX. That said...there's nothing to be said. NUEX is run largely by unknowns and their previous responses and attitude was less than transparent.
Even now...clear documentation and discussion of what NUEX is, who it's for, and how it works isn't readily available (although it exists if you care to dig and spend some time doing so).
So...in closing. This is very exciting, it's presented well, but the overall success or failure of the venture is an unresolved and murky issue due to the factors I've cited previously. My best guess is that we won't really know what NUEX is about untill more time has passed and more information/discussion is had.
Good luck NUEX.
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Ratcattle
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Posted - 2007.12.16 16:43:00 -
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I just said "Give it a try" and not "Give him all your money". That's what I did as well. I bought 100,000 shares for 1 isk each to see how everything works and it worked fine. Can't tell you what happens if you give him 1b isk or even more. But we will see as time goes by and more and more people use it.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.16 17:17:00 -
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Originally by: Ratcattle Can't tell you what happens if you give him 1b isk or even more. But we will see as time goes by and more and more people use it.
Well, hmmmmm, this is the same question that gets posed to us who work with Ebank. All investments are safe until a supposed mark is reached. In fairness, it is a valid question as ponzi schemes look exactly like valid businesses until they reveal themselves. In this case, NUEX is run very much like RSEX but without the actual in game shares being traded. You have to take his word that everything is being tracked properly and that all of your "stuff" is safe in his sole hands. I was leery of Balogh when he started but he's proven himself. I just wonder if a person who names himself "You fail" and an exchange run by a corp called "New Con" is going to be another story that proves the paradigm wrong. So, the questions still remains, who is running this? Who is part of this? Is there anyone that anyone else knows involved in this project? You know what, I wash my hands of this thread. You Fail is not going to answer any trust questions as he has repeatedly avoided doing so. Those who invest in this polished turd are, well to be honest, fools.
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 17:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Ratcattle Can't tell you what happens if you give him 1b isk or even more. But we will see as time goes by and more and more people use it.
In this case, NUEX is run very much like RSEX but without the actual in game shares being traded. You have to take his word that everything is being tracked properly and that all of your "stuff" is safe in his sole hands. I was leery of Balogh when he started but he's proven himself. I just wonder if a person who names himself "You fail" and an exchange run by a corp called "New Con" is going to be another story that proves the paradigm wrong. So, the questions still remains, who is running this? Who is part of this? Is there anyone that anyone else knows involved in this project? You know what, I wash my hands of this thread. You Fail is not going to answer any trust questions as he has repeatedly avoided doing so. Those who invest in this polished turd are, well to be honest, fools.
I am the only one currently running it. There are 3 real life people who are a part of this project, and those other 2 people will be running it as well soon as brokers to complete trade transactions.
I have provided what Nucon and Ufl really mean and stand for - if you continue with little name games that is your perogative.
I spent weeks of learning RL programming and design to create this application, and hope that my motivation and RL time spent is proof enough to invest a little money into trying this system. If it isnt then time will be the only one to tell.
There are 20 BETA accounts left Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.16 17:44:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl I am the only one currently running it. There are 3 real life people who are a part of this project, and those other 2 people will be running it as well soon as brokers to complete trade transactions.
Why is that even a month after you first annouced your intentions, we still havent even heard a peep out of you 2 business partners? Granted they may not be the PR man that you are supposed to be, but I would figure that they would have at least appeared once and taken a bow and acknowledged the masses. Maybe they are just figments of your imagination? --
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack Am I correct in saying that the crux of your business proposal revolves around CEOs securing collateral with yourself to back the values of their shares so they can sell them on your exchange?
YES
The application itself will display all information needed for traders to make good buying/selling decisions. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Ufl I am the only one currently running it. There are 3 real life people who are a part of this project, and those other 2 people will be running it as well soon as brokers to complete trade transactions.
Why is that even a month after you first annouced your intentions, we still havent even heard a peep out of you 2 business partners? Granted they may not be the PR man that you are supposed to be, but I would figure that they would have at least appeared once and taken a bow and acknowledged the masses. Maybe they are just figments of your imagination?
I came up with the idea, came up with a plan, executed the plan, and learned a lot more than I thought I would - my business partners do not have the ability to create these applications. They are going to be the first secured brokers to process transactions, and will be available to everyone shortly by voice when we set up our ventrilo server, and are available in game via the NUEX or Nucon Stock Exchange Channels. Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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Treelox
Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party
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Posted - 2007.12.16 17:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl
Originally by: Treelox
Originally by: Ufl I am the only one currently running it. There are 3 real life people who are a part of this project, and those other 2 people will be running it as well soon as brokers to complete trade transactions.
Why is that even a month after you first annouced your intentions, we still havent even heard a peep out of you 2 business partners? Granted they may not be the PR man that you are supposed to be, but I would figure that they would have at least appeared once and taken a bow and acknowledged the masses. Maybe they are just figments of your imagination?
I came up with the idea, came up with a plan, executed the plan, and learned a lot more than I thought I would - my business partners do not have the ability to create these applications. They are going to be the first secured brokers to process transactions, and will be available to everyone shortly by voice when we set up our ventrilo server, and are available in game via the NUEX or Nucon Stock Exchange Channels.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.16 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Ray McCormack Am I correct in saying that the crux of your business proposal revolves around CEOs securing collateral with yourself to back the values of their shares so they can sell them on your exchange?
Originally by: Ufl YES The application itself will display all information needed for traders to make good buying/selling decisions.
I'm not only playing name games. I'm including your name, and the name of your corp, in addition to everything else that is wrong with this model. You are trying to be Chribba, Ricdic, and a host of others without having actually made the effort. You are also trying to do it for a whole market at once instead of one here and one there. In essence, you want to be the numero uno and you keep pointing to some programming code as a reason to trust you or bypass the need for you to actually earn trust. I should add, code that hasn't been validated in any regard; and since you had to learn it to make it probably has quite a number of bugs or problems that you just haven't found yet; and probably don't know how to fix if you find them. Yes, you irritate me. Problem is to get proof you are a scammer I, or someone else, have to go ahead and give you the opportunity to be a "successful" scammer. So, keep slugging out those marketing phrases filled with non-substantive answers. I'll be here repeating substantive questions. I honestly think you are a scammer and when I said I was done with this thread I should have qualified that statement. I'm done pretending that you aren't a scammer. From here on out I'm just going to go Shadarle on you.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.12.16 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ufl They are going to be the first secured brokers to process transactions
So ... you are saying that these brokers must remain sekret? How do you intend to accomplish that? Or is it you fear that someone will figure out that the other two brokers are the other two alt slots on your account? There has to be some reason you are refusing to name the other people involved. That is until after people have signed up. Most honest projects, and even a few dishonest ones, tell people who are going to be involved before taking their money. Why have you decided to hide who is involved and use only one alt to post with?
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.12.16 18:20:00 -
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I've now read your original thread. As far as I can tell, this is a polished presentation of a product that nobody needs, put forth by someone who appears to be going out of his way to make it obvious he's a scammer, an idiot, or both. You were "born" about three months ago. Your corporation is recruiting, and it's not at all clear for what or why. Your first post on the forums was in Market Discussions. You are on no killmails of any board I can find, anywhere. Your explanation of your name is half-baked. I would not be surprised if Riethe is at the very least a friend, if not another of your characters.
Your business model is pointless, your "happy investors" are clearly alts--if not of you, then of someone--and you're being very, very evasive with people who are asking you direct questions.
SCAM
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Ufl
Caldari Nucon
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Posted - 2007.12.16 18:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ufl on 16/12/2007 18:23:57
I have a good answer for you then!
DONT PARTICIPATE
Thanks!
16 BETA ACCOUNTS LEFT!
Best Regards Ufl Nucon Stock Exchange [OUR VISION]
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