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Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:07:00 -
[61]
Your continued success at tricking people deserves recognition.
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DesuSigs |
Eval B'Stard
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:09:00 -
[62]
Jenny is becoming the EVE Bike as everyone has had her at some point 
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When we gonna see the 40km and 80km tractor beams ?
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Morn Judith
Caldari
Incognito Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:16:00 -
[63]
 Originally by: Eval B'Stard
Jenny is becoming the EVE Bike as everyone has had her at some point
Son of a ***** I was seriously going to use that line!
But I disagree! I think this is still the original Jenny. The OG Jenny was obviously very smart, as her arguments were very strong. I think that she is playing a trick or doing an experiment on us. In 6 months, when she comes out to say that she never traded hands, I will be the winner saying I told you so!
I don't like my sig.
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Danae Melios
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:17:00 -
[64]
For the irony of the request, I will play along.
Antipirate as a trade can really only work in three ways.
1) Your corp hunts those in lowsec. Because you are presumably attacking first, your own security status will drop, making you appear as a pirate.
2) You sit there and wait for a pirate to aggress you, which allows you to react as you see fit, but not getting the jump will severely reduce your survival.
3) you move to 0.0 and hunt pirates there, without risk of losing your security status when you attack first.
The primary problem with this is that you can regain security status through ratting, especially in deep space. This means that many pirates can hide their tendencies.
In addition, there are groups who are not what I would classify as "pirate" but act to control lowsec areas by killing those who come in to mine or rat, so they can do the same but unmolested. This is territorial control, more akin to rebellion against the established sovereignty than piracy. Of course they too can have extremely low security.
There are corporations that are anti-pirate, or so they advertise. You can see them advertise in Recruitment channel, or you can see advertisements for others if you go to the Corporation button and check out the Recruitment tab.
Another option for you might be the various roleplay corporations, those tied to an Empire faction. They typically are anti-pirate.
Finally, you can make a post about what you are looking for in the Corporation and Alliance Recruitment forum on this website.
Originally by: game box
Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:22:00 -
[65]
Danae Melios, are you saying the security rating for the game is broken and unworkable or unimplemented? It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now. Maybe low sec and security rating model need changing?
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
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Eve is really big and looks very nice for a 2003 game. Definitely the best game ever! |
Benco97
Gallente
Mineral Dynamics
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:24:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Danae Melios, are you saying the security rating for the game is broken and unworkable or unimplemented? It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now. Maybe low sec and security rating model need changing?
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
Is this all just an exotic rant about balance? o.O
Originally by: Kirjava
This man speaks the truth, when he farts we count the length in seconds and make squillions buying winning lottery tickets.
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Morn Judith
Caldari
Incognito Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:24:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Danae Melios, are you saying the security rating for the game is broken and unworkable or unimplemented? It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now. Maybe low sec and security rating model need changing?
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
Damn. She's good. Really good. Got you exactly where she wants.
I told you, it's still the original Jenny.
I don't like my sig.
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Danae Melios
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:34:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Danae Melios, are you saying the security rating for the game is broken and unworkable or unimplemented? It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now. Maybe low sec and security rating model need changing?
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
The thought is nice, but here is an example of how it is not "balanced."
The bounty level is supposed to be a reflection of how upset others are with you-- how successful you have been since your last bounty was collected by someone.
Now, the problem with this is two-fold. First of all, bounties can be a measure of prestige-- pirates are able to add to it, thus inflating their own dangerousness.
Secondly, bounties can be collected by any other player-- say, a corp member, who can easily shoot the pirate in their pod, with the two of them splitting the proceeds. This happens when the bounty becomes more valuable than a replacement clone.
Thus, the "bounty system" for player pirates results in bounties that may not have any basis in reality.
Not only that, but a pirate SHOULD (and this is far from the truth sometimes) be an expert in pvp-- making them potentially very dangerous and expensive to hunt.
It isn't a matter of it being "broken."
It is a matter of the rules being very clear and universal. You attack someone else first anywhere outside of true 0.0 and below, and you lose security. Period. CONCORD doesn't care why you did it, you are in their eyes the troublemaker, the instigator.
In the meantime, those who claim NPC bounties are more appreciated by CONCORD-- you are being paid to be their hired guns. Often, those who are best at piracy also are those who can best fight other pirates. Again, a one-size fits all policy that reduces paperwork for CONCORD.
One size fits all policies and no-tolerance rules are not fair. But it is equitable. Exceptions are ignored, thus no favorites are played for either side.
Originally by: game box
Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
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Danae Melios
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:38:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Morn Judith
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Danae Melios, are you saying the security rating for the game is broken and unworkable or unimplemented? It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now. Maybe low sec and security rating model need changing?
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
Damn. She's good. Really good. Got you exactly where she wants.
I told you, it's still the original Jenny.
I'm actually not at odds with the concept of making anti-pirate a legitimate occupation, these are thoughts I've had myself over the years, particularly when I rejoined Eve with my current account. For one thing, it would bring more pvpers into lowsec hunting each other, like people have been claiming to want.
Originally by: game box
Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
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brakespear
Minmatar
Wayward Brewing
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:44:00 -
[70]
Edited by: brakespear on 23/12/2007 23:45:35
awww please you haters...no matter who is in charge Jenny is Jenny.....it's like Dr Who and regenerations.....the basic concept is still lovable 
(and if we keep the same theme the fourth Jenny will be the best of the lot  , sorry Jenny, cheap joke)
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Krezeb
Caldari
Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:46:00 -
[71]
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Jenny Spitfire has just made my very short KOS List.
srsly.
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jongalt
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:48:00 -
[72]
to the real-life owner of Jenny Spitfire,
if/when you decide to sell the character known as Jenny Spitfire, please eve-mail me. i would like to go on record with my desire to purchase your character for a fair price so that I may restore Jenny's good name and reputation to its former glory.
(this is a serious offer.)
Sincerely,
-jg.
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Amuko
Amarr
Disturbed Amarrians
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:50:00 -
[73]
Joke's getting a bit old now, and seeing so many people actually falling for it is kinda... sad .
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Cailais
Amarr
VITOC
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Posted - 2007.12.23 23:57:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Danae Melios, are you saying the security rating for the game is broken and unworkable or unimplemented? It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now. Maybe low sec and security rating model need changing?
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
Its the same Jenny. Jenny's 'cause' is true balance in EVE, she's being sarcastic -
It can't really be broken, can it? The game has been out for a while now
C.
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Dehumanisation - griefers are cool and if you are not a griefer, you do not belong here.
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Roy Batty68
Caldari
Immortal Dead
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Posted - 2007.12.24 00:10:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
Your continued success at tricking people deserves recognition.
Yep.
It's getting a little worn out though. She (or he... whatever) should post something like this just to really mess with everyone's head.
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Bob Stuart
Federation Fleet
Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2007.12.24 00:10:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
If there is piracy then antipiracy must be equally profitable. That is balanced isn't it?
Piracy is always going to be more profitable than anti piracy. It's not about game mechanics. It's about where your income comes from.
Pirates can make their income from the modules and the cargo of their victims as well as ransoms of ships/pods. Their income can be high, because their victims might be carrying high-value goods, or be willing to pay large ransoms. Also, every other ship is a potential source of income, so opportunities to earn are plentiful.
Anti-pirates making their income from the modules plus cargo of the pirates they destroy will have less income because the cargo of a pirate ship is not very likely to be anything other than ammunition, charges, etc. which are cheap. Payouts from bounties will be less, because they are paid on pod destruction, not ship destruction and not every pirate has a bounty, so there are fewer opportunities to earn (pod might escape, pirate might not have bounty).
So, being an anti-pirate means you have a smaller income than being a pirate, because you have less potential income and fewer opportunities to make that income.
Unless you are being paid by someone else, in which case you're a mercenary, not an antipirate.
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Danae Melios
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.12.24 00:15:00 -
[77]
I wonder if MotherMoon is still a member of the Jenny Spitfire fan club?
Or does that lapse with a new persona?
Originally by: game box
Conceive a new life without boundaries, where murder, plunder, betrayal, and delusions of grandeur will lead you to boundless glory or to the brink of ruin.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.24 00:22:00 -
[78]
When you buy Jenny from Ebay, is there a clause that requires you to troll the forums with ridiculous threads?
Just asking
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.24 17:44:00 -
[79]
theres a lot of angry roleplaying smacktalk pirates
theres only one jenny
i also believe its the same person since the beginning 
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Lone Gunman
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Posted - 2007.12.24 18:18:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Lone Gunman on 24/12/2007 18:18:53
Originally by: Marsman37X}
As for the unfriendliness, you get used to it.[/quote
I have been here 4 1/2 years, I still haven't gotten used to it.
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Cruthensis
Gallente
Farmer Killers
United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2007.12.24 21:03:00 -
[81]
This is hi-larious. I love this Jenny more than any of the previous installs of Jenny we ever had.
Jenny...
1. Buy Vexor 2. Fit for Gank 3. Suicide ISK farmer 4. Grind sec 5. see 1. |
SiJira
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Posted - 2007.12.24 21:22:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Lone Gunman
Edited by: Lone Gunman on 24/12/2007 18:18:53
Originally by: Marsman37X}
As for the unfriendliness, you get used to it.[/quote
I have been here 4 1/2 years, I still haven't gotten used to it.
we still love you
Trashed sig, Shark was here |
Caitlinn
Caldari
CyberDyne Industries
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.12.24 22:02:00 -
[83]
Delete boot.ini file? yes?
CyberDyne Industries Open for Applications |
Doppler Shift
Red 42
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Posted - 2007.12.24 22:15:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Crumplecorn
I'm tempted to start feigning ignorance myself one of these days to see how many people jump to the 'character was sold conclusion'.
Blatant ebayer - the old Crumplecorn would never have posted this. J'Accuse!
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