Originally by: Culitza

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Edited by: Culitza on 26/12/2007 20:32:09
even if all of eve hates bruce :) I'm gonna be a nice guy and give you a piece of advice lol.

Machariel is the closest thing to a solo-pwn mobile in eve atm.

6 x 800mm repeating artillery II. 2 x heavy neuts, or 2 x siege launchers. ( Republic fleet EMP/Fusion/PP L in cargo ) Dont use t2 ammo or you wont be able to hit anything.

warp disr, sens booster, cap booster, gist x-type 10mn mwd.

3 x OD t2, 1 x nanofiber, 2 x republic fleet gyrostabs, 1 x DCU II.

rigs: 1 x polycarb t2, 2 x polycarb t1

ECM drones, or combat, whatever suits you.

For this you need near perfect navigation skills (low-grade snake set), great gunnery( all level 4-5 ), minmatar bs lvl5, gallente bs lvl4, and good cap skills. Also shield management hull upg 5 if you have them it will give you a decent hp buffer.

This ship rules, and no other ship can dish out this ammount of punishment while being nanoed and having great survivability.

If you can get 2 of your mates to fly this setup with you and an inty or dictor to tackle, you can take on gangs of multiple BS's and break camps with little trouble if you know what you're doing and each fits a different form of EW in mids.

Have fun.

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Edited by: Lorz0r on 27/12/2007 01:08:10

Originally by: Shardrael

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if you pimp it out a machariel can stay alive indefinetly in low sec and for a long time in 0.0 assuming you dont make any big mistakes.

either nano or double rep it. spend about 4 bil either way, one can sit there and tank 4 or 5 bs the other can go 10k a sec.

pick whichever style of flying you like, and if you arent experienced enough with the ship beforehand then buy a couple tempests and try them out first to get the hang of flying it.

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Providing you can still fit 100MN MWD's to command ships the Sleipnir can double that Speed. Also - it has no tanking ship bonus so I completely fail to see how this ship would be massively superior to a Tempest in terms of tanking - it has 1 more low slot and 2500 more armour??? So it comes down to the old 4 billion on any BS is going to be extremely hard to *****.

EDIT: what the **** - this forum sensors the word 'crac.k'???

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Originally by: Setana Manoro

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Originally by: Culitza

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Edited by: Culitza on 26/12/2007 20:32:09
even if all of eve hates bruce :) I'm gonna be a nice guy and give you a piece of advice lol.

Machariel is the closest thing to a solo-pwn mobile in eve atm.

6 x 800mm repeating artillery II. 2 x heavy neuts, or 2 x siege launchers. ( Republic fleet EMP/Fusion/PP L in cargo ) Dont use t2 ammo or you wont be able to hit anything.

warp disr, sens booster, cap booster, gist x-type 10mn mwd.

3 x OD t2, 1 x nanofiber, 2 x republic fleet gyrostabs, 1 x DCU II.

rigs: 1 x polycarb t2, 2 x polycarb t1

ECM drones, or combat, whatever suits you.

For this you need near perfect navigation skills (low-grade snake set), great gunnery( all level 4-5 ), minmatar bs lvl5, gallente bs lvl4, and good cap skills. Also shield management hull upg 5 if you have them it will give you a decent hp buffer.

This ship rules, and no other ship can dish out this ammount of punishment while being nanoed and having great survivability.

If you can get 2 of your mates to fly this setup with you and an inty or dictor to tackle, you can take on gangs of multiple BS's and break camps with little trouble if you know what you're doing and each fits a different form of EW in mids.

Have fun.

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And your gonna track ... how ?

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Originally by: Khanid Venari

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Originally by: Setana Manoro

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Originally by: Culitza

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Edited by: Culitza on 26/12/2007 20:32:09
even if all of eve hates bruce :) I'm gonna be a nice guy and give you a piece of advice lol.

Machariel is the closest thing to a solo-pwn mobile in eve atm.

6 x 800mm repeating artillery II. 2 x heavy neuts, or 2 x siege launchers. ( Republic fleet EMP/Fusion/PP L in cargo ) Dont use t2 ammo or you wont be able to hit anything.

warp disr, sens booster, cap booster, gist x-type 10mn mwd.

3 x OD t2, 1 x nanofiber, 2 x republic fleet gyrostabs, 1 x DCU II.

rigs: 1 x polycarb t2, 2 x polycarb t1

ECM drones, or combat, whatever suits you.

For this you need near perfect navigation skills (low-grade snake set), great gunnery( all level 4-5 ), minmatar bs lvl5, gallente bs lvl4, and good cap skills. Also shield management hull upg 5 if you have them it will give you a decent hp buffer.

This ship rules, and no other ship can dish out this ammount of punishment while being nanoed and having great survivability.

If you can get 2 of your mates to fly this setup with you and an inty or dictor to tackle, you can take on gangs of multiple BS's and break camps with little trouble if you know what you're doing and each fits a different form of EW in mids.

Have fun.

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And your gonna track ... how ?

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If you're a noob and u dont know how to fight in nano-setups and really have no ideea how the tracking is done. I'll tell ya.

You turn on mwd just to gtfo or when taking heavy damage, to hit the target u actually have to turn off mwd and orbit. Fly a vaga and u'll see what I'm talking bout.

P.S. Te credeam mai inteligent ... lol

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Originally by: Khanid Venari

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Edited by: Lorz0r on 27/12/2007 01:08:10

Originally by: Shardrael

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if you pimp it out a machariel can stay alive indefinetly in low sec and for a long time in 0.0 assuming you dont make any big mistakes.

either nano or double rep it. spend about 4 bil either way, one can sit there and tank 4 or 5 bs the other can go 10k a sec.

pick whichever style of flying you like, and if you arent experienced enough with the ship beforehand then buy a couple tempests and try them out first to get the hang of flying it.

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Providing you can still fit 100MN MWD's to command ships the Sleipnir can double that Speed. Also - it has no tanking ship bonus so I completely fail to see how this ship would be massively superior to a Tempest in terms of tanking - it has 1 more low slot and 2500 more armour??? So it comes down to the old 4 billion on any BS is going to be extremely hard to *****.

EDIT: what the **** - this forum sensors the word 'crac.k'???

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^^ the biggest noob I've ever seen. kthxbye

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Originally by: Khanid Venari

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Edited by: Lorz0r on 27/12/2007 01:08:10

Originally by: Shardrael

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if you pimp it out a machariel can stay alive indefinetly in low sec and for a long time in 0.0 assuming you dont make any big mistakes.

either nano or double rep it. spend about 4 bil either way, one can sit there and tank 4 or 5 bs the other can go 10k a sec.

pick whichever style of flying you like, and if you arent experienced enough with the ship beforehand then buy a couple tempests and try them out first to get the hang of flying it.

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Providing you can still fit 100MN MWD's to command ships the Sleipnir can double that Speed. Also - it has no tanking ship bonus so I completely fail to see how this ship would be massively superior to a Tempest in terms of tanking - it has 1 more low slot and 2500 more armour??? So it comes down to the old 4 billion on any BS is going to be extremely hard to *****.

EDIT: what the **** - this forum sensors the word 'crac.k'???

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^^ the biggest noob I've ever seen. kthxbye

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haha please tell me this isn't your main...

seriously - why would a machariel have such a good tank over any other 4 billion fitted Battleship? It's a ridiculous argument. Want to elaborate on your moronic post?

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Yeah...cus that's what the argument was about wasn't it.

Well done, now unplug your keyboard

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Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Yeah...cus that's what the argument was about wasn't it.

Well done, now unplug your keyboard

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I shall enlighten you.

nano-mach is the best and about only (xcept the nano-phoon) viable nano-bs in-game atm.

It's speed lets it gtfo when things get hairy, and it's dps hurts like a bastard. max-skilled, fully snaked nano-mach can easily engage and kill most bs-es solo, and disengage by mwd-ing if things get rough.

The fitting is expensive, any decent fit will set you back about 2 bil at least ( including the ship, excluding implants ). Yes it's very hazardous to fly them solo, but then again if your wallet is too big and you're in need of a new toy the mach is the way to go.

Of course these things really shine in 3-4 man gangs .... fought them once ... we had 8 ships bs/bc size, they killed 7 of us. We didnt have any rapiers/huginns with us sadly.

So bottom line is, the nano-mach is the ultimate nano-ship which takes skill and balls of steel to fly, and last but not least, a big phat wallet to support it.

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Originally by: Dreadpilot Roberts

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Originally by: Lorz0r

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Yeah...cus that's what the argument was about wasn't it.

Well done, now unplug your keyboard

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I shall enlighten you.

nano-mach is the best and about only (xcept the nano-phoon) viable nano-bs in-game atm.

It's speed lets it gtfo when things get hairy, and it's dps hurts like a bastard. max-skilled, fully snaked nano-mach can easily engage and kill most bs-es solo, and disengage by mwd-ing if things get rough.

The fitting is expensive, any decent fit will set you back about 2 bil at least ( including the ship, excluding implants ). Yes it's very hazardous to fly them solo, but then again if your wallet is too big and you're in need of a new toy the mach is the way to go.

Of course these things really shine in 3-4 man gangs .... fought them once ... we had 8 ships bs/bc size, they killed 7 of us. We didnt have any rapiers/huginns with us sadly.

So bottom line is, the nano-mach is the ultimate nano-ship which takes skill and balls of steel to fly, and last but not least, a big phat wallet to support it.

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No you won't, I'll enlighten you

This is an excellent argument, however it is completely irrelevant because a nano setup has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with a dual rep setup which can apparently tank 4-5 BS's and my argument was that it's tanking ability wasn't much greater (if at all) than any other extremely expensive Battleship therefore making the original argument redundant.

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Originally by: Rixsta

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NanoMach is the best of the bunch... but personally i'd keep it simple and go with a Nanophoon. If you're willing to pimp it slightly i.e. polycarbs + faction propulsion mods you'll probably be on par with a Nanomach... i.e. a bonus to Siege launchers / Cruise Launchers and a more flexible drone bay (as well as slightly lower sig radius). You lose out on pure hitpoints / speed / mid slots, but for what you save an awful lot in ISK meaning you won't be crying when you do eventually lose it, which you WILL solo.

Just as a note will you be completely solo, or have you got an alt scout?

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Originally by: Jack Target

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Edited by: Jack Target on 28/12/2007 19:46:33

Originally by: Rixsta

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NanoMach is the best of the bunch... but personally i'd keep it simple and go with a Nanophoon. If you're willing to pimp it slightly i.e. polycarbs + faction propulsion mods you'll probably be on par with a Nanomach... i.e. a bonus to Siege launchers / Cruise Launchers and a more flexible drone bay (as well as slightly lower sig radius). You lose out on pure hitpoints / speed / mid slots, but for what you save an awful lot in ISK meaning you won't be crying when you do eventually lose it, which you WILL solo.

Just as a note will you be completely solo, or have you got an alt scout?

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Most of the time I fly solo because I normally play for only half-an-hour each time. I don't use alts.

Therefore, I'm thinking of "playing safe" with a Rapier for a while until I get the hang of things.

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Originally by: Culitza

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Originally by: Jack Target

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Edited by: Jack Target on 28/12/2007 19:46:33

Originally by: Rixsta

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NanoMach is the best of the bunch... but personally i'd keep it simple and go with a Nanophoon. If you're willing to pimp it slightly i.e. polycarbs + faction propulsion mods you'll probably be on par with a Nanomach... i.e. a bonus to Siege launchers / Cruise Launchers and a more flexible drone bay (as well as slightly lower sig radius). You lose out on pure hitpoints / speed / mid slots, but for what you save an awful lot in ISK meaning you won't be crying when you do eventually lose it, which you WILL solo.

Just as a note will you be completely solo, or have you got an alt scout?

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Most of the time I fly solo because I normally play for only half-an-hour each time. I don't use alts.

Therefore, I'm thinking of "playing safe" with a Rapier for a while until I get the hang of things.

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No wonder eve hates u more than BoB, u start a thread about what fancy bs to use and then u say u're gonna use rapier. Damnit, one more machariel pilot that won't get ransomed

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Originally by: Jack Target

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I've just realised Black Ops can't fit covert ops cloaks.

Suddenly, I'm not so interested in Black Ops any more.

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Originally by: Gallant Nose

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http://kb.eve-recon.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=24220

Guess he went for the Machariel

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