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Curious Me
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:04:00 -
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Hi guys! been trying to find a decent setup for my Devoter but I couldnt find one, should I tank it, or should I fit some speed modules on it or speed rigs, so I was wondering what kind of setups you guys use or think of...
6 highs 3 Mids 7 Lows *if I am sure..
So please dont be shy and post your setups
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:09:00 -
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Lowsec or nullsec? --
Originally by: "QProQ"
When they said to put 'stabs on your 'cane, they meant GYROSTABS!
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Ishina Fel
Caldari Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:13:00 -
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Dual medium reps. Heavy resistances. Cap injected or NOS-supported.
Weapons only if if you have any fitting left - which you likely won't. Get your friends to gank what you bubble, you will still get on the killmail for using your bubble generator.
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 01:29:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/12/2007 01:30:02 Pure EFT-Theory, but since you can't disable the warp disruption field instantly anyway (thus if you're going to make a run for it, it's probably too late anyway):
Devoter Warp Field Generator, 2x Med Dim Nos, 2x Unstable Neut, 1x Med Solace Remote Rep 2x Cap Recharger II, LCB II 2x MAR II, Thermic II, 3x EANM II, DC II 2x Aux Nano Pump
It might be advisable to put a cloak in one of the highs instead ... so that you can merely hide instead. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: Good cap skills should run everything indefinitely... and you mount a hell of a tank (battleship class, but with a lower sig radius). --
Originally by: "QProQ"
When they said to put 'stabs on your 'cane, they meant GYROSTABS!
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Curious Me
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Posted - 2007.12.28 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Lowsec or nullsec?
Its for low sec, and I just saw your setup its interesting, but I dont think I am going to fly one of those without an mwd, btw do you think its worth to fit with faction stuff or its going to be a waste of money?
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 02:23:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/12/2007 02:23:19
Originally by: Curious Me
Originally by: Liang Nuren Lowsec or nullsec?
Its for low sec, and I just saw your setup its interesting, but I dont think I am going to fly one of those without an mwd, btw do you think its worth to fit with faction stuff or its going to be a waste of money?
Well, tbh, I wouldn't fly one without a MWD either - but the MWD provides strictly limited usefulness when you have the bubble on [and it can't be turned off immediately]. I'd probably require some advice from a more experienced heavy dictor pilot before saying yes or no to no MWD.
As for faction, I don't know the survivability of a heavy dictor. If it's anything like a normal dictor (especially post-nerf), I'd say don't bother. (Then again, you get what you pay for).
-Liang
Ed: And for lowsec (which I just noticed), I'd definitely fit a MWD since you can't use the harmful bubble version anyway. --
Originally by: "QProQ"
When they said to put 'stabs on your 'cane, they meant GYROSTABS!
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Curious Me
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Posted - 2007.12.28 02:52:00 -
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Edited by: Curious Me on 28/12/2007 02:54:29 What do you think about this setup:
High: 4x Focused Med Pulse Laser II 1x Med Nos II 1x Warp Disruption Field Generator W/Script
Medium: 1x Web II 1x Medium Capacitor Booster II 1x 10MN MicroWarpDrive II
Low: 2x Medium Rep II 2x EANM II 1x Armor Thermic Hardner II 1x DC II 1x Nanofiber Internal Structure II (Dont know what to use in this low slot with the left cpu )
Rigs: 2x Auxiliary Nano Pump
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/12/2007 03:10:06 Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/12/2007 03:08:45 It's quite tanky, which can be good. Are you planning to use this solo or in a gang?
At any rate, I was playing around with your idea of 'speed':
Devoter Warp Disruptor, Med Dim Nos, 4x FMP II 10mn MWD II, LCB II, Sensor Booster II (Lock Time) MAR II, Armor Thermic II, 2x EANM II, DC II, 2x OD II 2x Polycarbon I
About the same gank yours has, but can run the rep forever with the guns and disruptor off. It's also quite a bit faster than most things you're going to find in lowsec.
Replacing the polys with aux nano pumps lets you tank sentries forever, but slows you down quite a bit. ;-)
-Liang --
Originally by: "QProQ"
When they said to put 'stabs on your 'cane, they meant GYROSTABS!
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shinsushi
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Posted - 2007.12.28 05:09:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/12/2007 01:30:02 Pure EFT-Theory, but since you can't disable the warp disruption field instantly anyway (thus if you're going to make a run for it, it's probably too late anyway):
Devoter Warp Field Generator, 2x Med Dim Nos, 2x Unstable Neut, 1x Med Solace Remote Rep 2x Cap Recharger II, LCB II 2x MAR II, Thermic II, 3x EANM II, DC II 2x Aux Nano Pump
It might be advisable to put a cloak in one of the highs instead ... so that you can merely hide instead. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: Good cap skills should run everything indefinitely... and you mount a hell of a tank (battleship class, but with a lower sig radius).
Try pulling off that last EAN and fitting a CPR, then remove 1x cap recharger and throw whatever might be useful in there. W/o a MWD fitted the stup will be much more cap stable, and with one fitted it will be about that same.
I guess it really depends on what you are trying to do with it. Certain question will help people with their suggestions towards how to fit out your ship;
1) Is this ship meant to just sit on a gate, perma tanking the sentries (meaning longer fights/prolonged campning, more cap issues) 2) Would a passive tank fit your purposes (this thing has a pretty decent passive tank)
3) What type of ships would you like to be effective against (the devoter isn't exactly "ganky")
4) What size gang will you be in, and what roles (should be obvious) will you be playing? An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. |
Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2007.12.28 06:06:00 -
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Edited by: Wu Jiun on 28/12/2007 06:09:19 Ok my 2 cents(lowsec!):
- don't use mainly eanms to tank an amarr t2 ship - use plates on amarr ships - mwd clearly necessary - cap mods are bad
What gives:
his: warp disrupt thing with focused whatever script, guns who cares
meds: 10mn mwd t2 2 x sensor booster 2
lows: 2 x 1600mm RT, energized thermic/magnetic t2, eanm t2, dmg control t2, mar 2
rigs: 2 x trimark armor pumps
But WHY you ask? Reasoning:
His: Should be obvious.
Meds: In lowsec getting a lock is first religion. If you have rsbs in gang you can fit cap mods for sustainability. In any other case you need high scan res on your own. With 2 x sb you still won't get well fitted blockade runners. Web would actually be crucial too which is why phobos is better. But if you have a huginn in gang its no prob.
Lows: You have effective hp like a plated geddon/thron a little more actually. This gives you time if you need to tackle a target that actually packs a punch. It also means you can just put your rep off for a while if you need the cap(the warp field gen is a cap sucker).
The single rep is sustainable for a pretty long time and given that you probabl y sit there with friends tanking sentries will be easy. If you need to do it solo you need to make that a faction mar. In that case it will be sustainable until you put on the warp disruptipon thing but then you can rely on your huge hp buffer.
Edit: Ofc the downside of this setup is slow speed. But as it stand you don't have the spare med for a web anyways. As such 30km scramble range is plenty at most gates. The webbing needs to be done by a minnie recon to make it pretty bulletproof.
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Curious Me
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Posted - 2007.12.30 11:58:00 -
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*bump* Please post more setups guys
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Liet Traep
Minmatar D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 14:54:00 -
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Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 28/12/2007 01:30:02 Pure EFT-Theory, but since you can't disable the warp disruption field instantly anyway (thus if you're going to make a run for it, it's probably too late anyway):
Devoter Warp Field Generator, 2x Med Dim Nos, 2x Unstable Neut, 1x Med Solace Remote Rep 2x Cap Recharger II, LCB II 2x MAR II, Thermic II, 3x EANM II, DC II 2x Aux Nano Pump
It might be advisable to put a cloak in one of the highs instead ... so that you can merely hide instead. ;-)
-Liang
Ed: Good cap skills should run everything indefinitely... and you mount a hell of a tank (battleship class, but with a lower sig radius).
This setup makes me wince. With 3x EAN and a DCU II you're wasting 2 slots. I'd go either 2x EAN or DCU and an EAN. With stacking penalties the extra mods don't give you that much resistance. I'd strip the other 2 mods and put the biggest plates on there you can fit. other than that this setup doesn't look half bad. But me I always put guns on my ships. Sure this doesn't do Zealot damage but it can help out with a respectable amount of dps. Anyway more setups!
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Nicholas DW
Unorthodox Engineers
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Posted - 2007.12.30 23:30:00 -
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DCUs don't get stack penalized with other hardeners, so 2x EANM and 1x DCU is viable, as is 3x EANM and a DCU, albeit to a lesser extent. If you really want 4 hardeners, 1x Active Thermal, 2x EANM and 1x DCU is probably going to be your best option on a Devoter. |
eVeKiSs
United Alliance Coalition Of Empires
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Posted - 2007.12.31 11:37:00 -
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Edited by: eVeKiSs on 31/12/2007 11:38:25
Originally by: Nicholas DW Edited by: Nicholas DW on 30/12/2007 23:39:18
4x FMP II (Scorch) 1x WDFG 1x Proto Cloak
2x Fleeting Web 1x Medium Electrochem Booster (800s)
2x MAR II 1x Thermal II 1x DCU II 2x EANM II 1x 1600mm Rolled Tung
2x Trimark I
Cap stable, nice HP Buffer, nice tank and fits with AWU lvl 3. Does nice for camping 0.0 with small gangs; drop the cloak and swap a web for a sensor booster for low sec camping.
I have to say I like the idea of the hp buff but I dont know how it would look like with an mwd on and with that you will need to downgrade the 1600m I think.... In low sec I think mwd is a must
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.31 12:34:00 -
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Erm, first of all, don't undock without at least one sensorbooster? Unless ofcourse you got gangmates boosting your locktime. |
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