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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.28 13:33:00 -
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Edited by: djNME on 28/12/2007 13:40:03 So I just read that Standford journal relased their 2007 quotes of the year.I got a laugh out of the one that made the top of the list.
#1 quote of the year " Don't taze me bro!!"
I had to lol, not sure how many have seen that clip, i'm guessing most.Some guy is at standord for a john kerry rally.He has a questions and gets a bit "out of hand." Security trys to remove him and well....search for the clip..it's funny.
I'm a pretty easy going guy for the most part, but you have to think to yourself... If your holding a taser and some guy is in front of you saying " Don't tase me bro!!!...don't taze me!!" you'll prob end up tazing him.
Funny made the quote of the year though.
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Mad Amos
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.28 13:52:00 -
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Most people that call me bro, I wanna taze. Does that make me a bad person?
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.28 13:59:00 -
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no...lol.. well possibly.
I heard to be in some police units you have to do a test called "the tazer ride".. it's where you get tazed to see what it's like.Something about that intrests me..lol lets not hang out.
Tazer ride..:P
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.28 14:14:00 -
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Wow. Never seen that before.
Boy, I must hate cops really bad. That kid was an absolute tool, crying like a baby. Yet my overwhelming desire upon seeing that was to wade in there and start applying folding chairs to the backs of pigs heads. Eight or more pigs, and they gotta take him down inside and tazer his ass?
Six Secret Service Suits could get any human being on the planet out the door, standing up, and you wouldn't even know it happened. Cops. Bleh. ----- TANSTAAFL
My Daddy was a prominent Cap man, my Momma's in the Naval Reserve, when I was young I carried a gun, I wonder how your engines feel! |
Fink Angel
Caldari The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.12.28 14:18:00 -
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I can just hear the cop ... "OK just doing as requested, we didn't taze your bro, we tazed YOU!"
Guy should have STFU when asked. Rentacops shouldn't have used anything other than muscle.
Simple. Make me king of the world and I'll sort it all out.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.12.28 14:22:00 -
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Bah, there have been better taser incidents. Like the one where someone tazed an arsonist.
Hint: Taser + open fuelcan = big fireball.
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Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 16:24:00 -
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Edited by: Rialtor on 28/12/2007 16:23:55 I don't thing you realize how messed up and how uselessly force was applied Don't Taze me Bro.
He basically got removed from the stage cause he was asking controversial questions. Questions Kerry even wanted to answer. He was being a big belligerent with his questions, but well within the realm of reason. They tried to brush him off like 20-30 seconds into his question. I've seen lots of speaking engagements like this and it's not unheard of to ask 2-4 minute questions.
Is this how far the 1st ammendment right has fallen? That's why that's the quote of the year.
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.28 16:59:00 -
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I agree tbh, that type of force was not needed.THough i still find the urge would be big time...to tze the guy.I mean he strted to yell "Dun taze me bro"..lol I dunno.It didn't surprise me that he got tazed right after.
Saying that, makes you seriously hate people that ignorant that carry badges.It's was proven in court they used necessaryt force.Only way i can see that fidning is if he was found with a gun or knife on him after a search.
If I was him I would keep seeking legal action.
None the less... "dun taze me bro:
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Mikelio Raijan
Sulithus
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Posted - 2007.12.28 17:25:00 -
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STOP! Taser time.
Originally by: Mikelio Raijan ...also, Pyramid quote time! \o/
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.28 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: Rialtor
Is this how far the 1st ammendment right has fallen? That's why that's the quote of the year.
I don't think it's a First Amendment issue. The University might get a lot of Federal funding, but it's not The Government. You want to say something on their turf, you say it by their rules. ----- TANSTAAFL
My Daddy was a prominent Cap man, my Momma's in the Naval Reserve, when I was young I carried a gun, I wonder how your engines feel! |
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Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 19:54:00 -
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Originally by: djNME I agree tbh, that type of force was not needed.THough i still find the urge would be big time...to tze the guy.I mean he strted to yell "Dun taze me bro"..lol I dunno.It didn't surprise me that he got tazed right after.
Saying that, makes you seriously hate people that ignorant that carry badges.It's was proven in court they used necessaryt force.Only way i can see that fidning is if he was found with a gun or knife on him after a search.
If I was him I would keep seeking legal action.
None the less... "dun taze me bro:
yea while I think it was police brutality, I still laugh when I watch it, lol. It wasn't so bad, nothing Jesse Jackson like, but still it was definite escalation of force on the police end, which they're not suppose to do. In no way did he attack the officers for them to escalate from physical force to a tazer.
Quote: I don't think it's a First Amendment issue. The University might get a lot of Federal funding, but it's not The Government. You want to say something on their turf, you say it by their rules.
True enough, but the headline and imagery are those of someone's free speech being trampled. That was my implication.
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.12.28 20:26:00 -
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Originally by: Mikelio Raijan STOP! Taser time.
This is pretty hilarious. _
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Gnome Chomsky
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.12.28 20:48:00 -
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I find it strange that many people included a "I had to lol" caveat in their comments here and on youtube.
This is a quite amazing clip of a guy being literally electrocuted by Police in some southerm shihtole of a church hall or something.
This calls up images of Rodney King, or that guy shot while brandishing a lighter at a 7/11 and other instances of completely over-the-top establishment brutality... and yet people express apathy or laugh or even like the OP, express a likelihood of carrying out similar actions to the Police.
Are you guys ******* crazy or am I?
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.28 20:50:00 -
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The guy was over the top, he should have been a bit more concise instead of rambling and shouting, if some idiot was taking 10 minutes to ask a bloody question while shouting at me i would want him tazed too :colbert:
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.28 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: Rialtor
Originally by: Sister Impotentata I don't think it's a First Amendment issue. The University might get a lot of Federal funding, but it's not The Government. You want to say something on their turf, you say it by their rules.
True enough, but the headline and imagery are those of someone's free speech being trampled. That was my implication.
That I'll agree with completely.
Originally by: Gnome Chomsky
This is a quite amazing clip of a guy being literally electrocuted by Police in some southerm shihtole of a church hall or something.
Are you guys ******* crazy or am I?
Actually I thought it was at the University of Florida. So yes, you're right.
You're not crazy, but you read more into it than I do. I just despise cops, and the type of people that become cops. ----- TANSTAAFL
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy
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Posted - 2007.12.28 21:54:00 -
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Well, next time you're in danger don't call us... call a *****head and see if he gives a ****
Originally by: Tarminic
Okay, that's it. You are on the KOS list, and you better pray that I don't have access to a locater agent.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.28 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Surfin's PlunderBunny Well, next time you're in danger don't call us... call a *****head and see if he gives a ****
Surfin's! Are you one of them? And you seemed such a decent chap. There's always the exception that proves the rule.
The simple fact remains, I'm more likely to suffer a monetary loss from a cop than from a criminal. Vague distinctions notwithstanding.
If someone really wants to do good for the world, become a teacher, not a cop. Help people learn to keep their houses in order, rather than tazering them when they don't. ----- TANSTAAFL
My Daddy was a prominent Cap man, my Momma's in the Naval Reserve, when I was young I carried a gun, I wonder how your engines feel! |
Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers Knights Of Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.28 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Gnome Chomsky I find it strange that many people included a "I had to lol" caveat in their comments here and on youtube.
This is a quite amazing clip of a guy being literally electrocuted by Police in some southerm shihtole of a church hall or something.
This calls up images of Rodney King, or that guy shot while brandishing a lighter at a 7/11 and other instances of completely over-the-top establishment brutality... and yet people express apathy or laugh or even like the OP, express a likelihood of carrying out similar actions to the Police.
Are you guys ******* crazy or am I?
Well the reason it's still laughable is that it's not as severe as Rodney King. And the background is less sinister, racism vs. some blabbering loud mouth get roughed up a bit.
The guy in the video, while I feel it was bad policing, was kind of an idiot. And it's kind of funny how the events unfolded, and how he chose to express his wish not to get tazed in particular :).
But, yea, imo the police escalated the situation, as well as escalating force which is not allowed. The guy while somewhat resistant to leaving, was well within the ability to control without tazing him.
I mean they had some hecklers invade the Bill Maher show, no one needed to be tazed there.
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djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.28 23:30:00 -
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If some people just over think it and want to try n act high and mighty thats fine.I'd almost say your crazyto answer your question,due to most agreeing in some way it was laughable.
I expressed I did think it was excessive force.Why do people laugh when they see someone walk into a pole while looking the other way?Maybe because in some way we can relate...or it is funny?When those people can too really hurt themself.
I sadly agree with many people in the use of excess force.However,I was being honest about my feelings of it.If i see a police officer holding a tazer... last thing I'm going to start screaming is.. "DON'T TAZE ME BRO".I would calm down realize I'm surrounded by a force greater than I that does not want me there.Not playing it up for camera's;then if tazed file a rightful law suit.
Sadly again, I think it was wrong.It makes me LOL and then think about it leaving a bitter taste.Then the words play back n my head "Dun taze me bro, Dun taze me!" and i laugh again. oh well.
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Karma
Gallente Vortex Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.28 23:53:00 -
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tazers can get pretty nasty sometimes... and some cops are all too willing to use them with very little provocation.
*digs through google* ah, here we go: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7095875.stm
basically he couldn't find his mother at the airport, tried to ask for help, but didn't know any English... got a bit frantic, which under the circumstances isn't unreasonable... the police thought it would be a good idea to tazer him, to calm him down... apparently it didn't work cause they tried again, which killed him.
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Gnome Chomsky
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.12.28 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: djNME If some people just over think it and want to try n act high and mighty thats fine.I'd almost say your crazyto answer your question,due to most agreeing in some way it was laughable.
I expressed I did think it was excessive force.Why do people laugh when they see someone walk into a pole while looking the other way?Maybe because in some way we can relate...or it is funny?When those people can too really hurt themself.
I sadly agree with many people in the use of excess force.However,I was being honest about my feelings of it.If i see a police officer holding a tazer... last thing I'm going to start screaming is.. "DON'T TAZE ME BRO".I would calm down realize I'm surrounded by a force greater than I that does not want me there.Not playing it up for camera's;then if tazed file a rightful law suit.
Sadly again, I think it was wrong.It makes me LOL and then think about it leaving a bitter taste.Then the words play back n my head "Dun taze me bro, Dun taze me!" and i laugh again. oh well.
I laugh at visual comedy where stuff gets hurt or broken.. I'm a big Tom 'n' Jerry fan. This is not Tom 'n' Jerry.
Perhaps I can differentiate between a guy walking into a pole and a guy being electrocuted at a political rally by the legitimate law enforcement agency?
I do think the guy played up for the camera, and I'm sure he had the line in mind.. but the underlying image is terrible.
Imagine a boot stamping on a human facełfor ever, is that funny?
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Araxmas
An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.29 00:03:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis
Originally by: Mikelio Raijan STOP! Taser time.
This is pretty hilarious.
Win
I don't know anything about what actually happened...but that guy that got taserd had a really annoying voice. --------
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.29 00:17:00 -
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Normal humans feel the emotion "funny", and have the reaction "laugh", under very specific conditions. The condition that inspires the emotion "funny" is this: a potentially dangerous, injurious situation which is rendered harmless.
A man falls down the stairs willy-nilly, and pops up OK. Funny. A man falls down the stairs and lays there, unmoving, neck broken. Not funny.
Jerry applies electricity to Tom. Tom dances around in glowing skeletal form. Then Tom continues chasing Jerry, unhurt. Funny. Mouse chews wires. Cat stumbles upon wires, and is OMGBBQ. Cat Dead. Not funny.
"A boot to the head"? Funny. Curb stomp? Not funny.
Classic sociobiological treatment: Primitive man enters clearing, sees ferocious tiger. Not funny. Primitive man notices tiger has paw caught in the crook of a tree, and is immobilized, nonthreatening. Funny.
This particular fool was demonstrating a surrender reflex, while at the same time continuing to inflame his antagonists. He's a noodlehead, yes, no argument. But his cries inspire in me my natural recognition of the surrender reflex. He honestly feels he is in danger of injury (even if he is inviting it), and at that point it is not-funny. ----- TANSTAAFL
My Daddy was a prominent Cap man, my Momma's in the Naval Reserve, when I was young I carried a gun, I wonder how your engines feel! |
Gnome Chomsky
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.12.29 00:31:00 -
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Edited by: Gnome Chomsky on 29/12/2007 00:35:48
Originally by: Sister Impotentata Normal humans feel the emotion "funny", and have the reaction "laugh", under very specific conditions. The condition that inspires the emotion "funny" is this: a potentially dangerous, injurious situation which is rendered harmless.
A man falls down the stairs willy-nilly, and pops up OK. Funny. A man falls down the stairs and lays there, unmoving, neck broken. Not funny.
Jerry applies electricity to Tom. Tom dances around in glowing skeletal form. Then Tom continues chasing Jerry, unhurt. Funny. Mouse chews wires. Cat stumbles upon wires, and is OMGBBQ. Cat Dead. Not funny.
"A boot to the head"? Funny. Curb stomp? Not funny.
Classic sociobiological treatment: Primitive man enters clearing, sees ferocious tiger. Not funny. Primitive man notices tiger has paw caught in the crook of a tree, and is immobilized, nonthreatening. Funny.
This particular fool was demonstrating a surrender reflex, while at the same time continuing to inflame his antagonists. He's a noodlehead, yes, no argument. But his cries inspire in me my natural recognition of the surrender reflex. He honestly feels he is in danger of injury (even if he is inviting it), and at that point it is not-funny.
Your babies.. can I have them? (quite probably impossible biologically speaking, but I'll settle for theoretical babies)
Edit: the boot analogy was from 1984 btw.
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.29 00:48:00 -
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Originally by: Gnome Chomsky
Your babies.. can I have them? (quite probably impossible biologically speaking, but I'll settle for theoretical babies)
No. I like your name but I'm not entirely convinced of your progenitor's intelligence. Does your corp name have similar significance? ----- TANSTAAFL
My Daddy was a prominent Cap man, my Momma's in the Naval Reserve, when I was young I carried a gun, I wonder how your engines feel! |
djNME
DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.29 00:54:00 -
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Edited by: djNME on 29/12/2007 00:57:25
"Jerry applies electricity to Tom. Tom dances around in glowing skeletal form. Then Tom continues chasing Jerry, unhurt. Funny."
The guy screamed and then was escorted off the premises.He did not lay there not moving.He was fine.He played it up big time for the camera's.
I still think police like that should have their badge removed.It's a sad affair, but welcome to 2008 in the world we live in today.Still... DUN TAZE ME BRO!!
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Sister Impotentata
Elite Angels Of Death
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Posted - 2007.12.29 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: djNME
The guy screamed and then was escorted off the premises.He did not lay there not moving.He was fine.He played it up big time for the camera's.
That's my big point. He wasn't "escorted off the premises". He was #. Inappropriate.
Half as many Secret Service guys, and they would have surrounded him in an Invulnerable Field of Secret Serviceness; with full web, stab, and cap drain. "Please come with us, sir, and I'm sure you'll be able to speak to Mr. Kerry later." By the time that sentence was over, the guy would have been somewhere west of Las Vegas.
With properly trained (not equipped!) personnel, that guy would have been out of there with no fuss, no muss. ----- TANSTAAFL
My Daddy was a prominent Cap man, my Momma's in the Naval Reserve, when I was young I carried a gun, I wonder how your engines feel! |
Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.12.29 01:45:00 -
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I think he played up for the cameras because there are plenty of witnesses that before the event he was boasting that he would.
Now there are plenty of other taser examples out there. One good one was a criminal who was chased up a tree by a dog. While he was trying to get down for the police another officer turned up and tasered him without provocation. He fell from high in a tree unable to move his arms or legs and is now quadraplegic.
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.12.29 06:03:00 -
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The mere fact this guy was tasered because he was getting pushy in his questions during a QandA session makes me ill. I've seen the video a few times, and little I saw made me think use of force was justified. If he gets belligerent and obstreperous, you pick him up and take him out, you don't electrocute him.
Universities should stand for open and free speech... sometimes that 'speech' get louder than 60 decibels. Deal or drop the facade that speech is in any way 'free'.
Jesus
Originally by: Riethe You know the female who does the voice for Aura? Do you ever think when she's alone with her boyfriend, she's like... "Docking request accepted" ?
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Digitalfox
Central Defiance Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.12.29 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Digitalfox on 29/12/2007 18:32:10 Ok first off this video is funny. The guy got what he deserved. Hate to break it to you but there is now violiation of anyones free speach rights here.
1. While yes one is intitled to say what they want. On must chose the proper time and place. You cant shout fire in a theater and claim free speach.
2. The police attempted to escort the man form the podium and he resisted them. Then proceeded to struggle with the police the entire time they tried moving him.
In the law enforcement enviroment there are 4 types of people you will deal with. The Passive complinet person, this person does what their told and make up most of what you will deal with. The Passive Resister is the person who wont do what your told but when you begin to move them physicaly they offer no resistance and move. The Active Resister is the person who fights you when you try to move them, our subject fits into this catagory. Then lastly you have the Active Agressor, this is the person who attacks you.
The police acted acording to policy. They first attempted to remove the suspect and he resisted, they then continued to try to subdue him using lower levels of force. They told the suspect the entire time what would happen if he continued to resist. The warend him to the fact that if he continued he would be tazed. He continued to struggle and fight them. He sufferd the consequenes of his choices. And I'm sure he will get more when he goes to trial.
It saddens me to see people quickly jump on the hate the police band wagon. While yes some police are bad some police are corrupt not all of them are. They have a very hard job, and they get a lot of **** from alot of people. I dont envey them at all. Maybe next time you find yourself in trouble you will think better of them.
Do everyone a favor next time you see a "police brutality" video and do so research and see if it really was police brutality or just police doing their job.
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