Originally by: Orar Ironfist

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Lol So wait this is a post about how hydra owned you...then got owned but sentry fire.....i dont get it

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Originally by: Wesley Baird

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Ummmmm its funny, we've been living in the area for a few weeks, and really haven't felt that Hydra was trying to kick us out of the area...the 50+ caps MM dropped on our small POS did make the area seem less than welcoming...but hey, Im sure it was just the welcome wagon!!!

Try to get along...

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Originally by: CCP Ginger

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No sex changes.

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Originally by: Kylegar

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You call that a fleet?

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HYDRA calls that a fleet?

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Recently HYDRA has decided that it's a worthwhile endeavor to try to take over some empire space in Lonetrek (namely Hakonen, Nalvula, Obe, Otsasai, etc.) and push out anyone who isn't blue.

Unfortunately for HYDRA, however, Destry's Lounge doesn't take crap from anybody, so we've been engaging HYDRA over the last few days. Just for the record, we have about 20 pilots, whereas HYDRA has closer to 1,200 -- so, in an attempt to even the odds, we called in a single carrier for backup.

HYDRA apparently felt it necessary to move in an entire fleet from P3EN-E to attack us, resulting in a rather entertaining empire-space fleet battle:
Battle Screenshot

We popped one of their Domi pilots and then docked up (sadly, in hindsight, we could have left the carrier undocked and popped quite a few more of them -- he was quite easily tanking their entire fleet )

The only regret we have is that the station guns actually popped more HYDRA members than we did. -- the guy in his capsule in that screenshot, for example: we didn't fire a single shot at him, that was all the station guns. After only a few short minutes HYDRA's little fleet had turned around and ran back into P3EN-E to avoid getting more fire from the sentry guns.

Anyway, nice try HYDRA, better luck against those sentry guns next time -- this isn't 0.0.

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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke

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So what you're saying is, HYDRA got its' E-P3EN smacked back to P3EN-E?

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Originally by: faterror

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This is surely the beginning of the end for HYDRA

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Originally by: Dez Affinity

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Congratulations on a Dominix kill.

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Dunno how we got owned when we didn't even lose a single ship, other than a Drake due to lag (which has in fact been reimbursed).

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Originally by: Kylegar

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You call that a fleet?

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HYDRA calls that a fleet?

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Considering they got together more players than we have in our entire corp, it counts as a fleet I think. =P

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.

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Originally by: Kera Delacour

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Do not expect much from hydra other than a blob bud, we took 5-15 ships a day into their space for a while and they responded by calling in pure and MM to hold their hands and wipe their butts. Even with a 150-200 man blob against our 5-15 ships they still took heavy losses and only ever got a few of us, even when they dropped warp to can exploits around a gate.

They have had their asses handed to em by pretty much every alliance that has gone into their space over the last few months and its only the fact that either the guys attacking them were not interested in holding space that they are still in 0.0.


Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.

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Since when is a 1200+ member alliance that has held it's own space for over a year and pays rent to no-one, and in fact built it's own stations, a pet?

Agreed that they aren't exactly a PVP Powerhouse but they have held their space longer than many alliances in this game have.

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Originally by: Nova Soldier

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Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri.
They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.

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Originally by: Nova Soldier

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Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri.
They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 30/12/2007 14:02:55

Originally by: Morvyn

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Originally by: Kylegar

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You call that a fleet?

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HYDRA calls that a fleet?

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Considering they got together more players than we have in our entire corp, it counts as a fleet I think. =P

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Do not expect much from hydra other than a blob bud, we took 5-15 ships a day into their space for a while and they responded by calling in pure and MM to hold their hands and wipe their butts. Even with a 150-200 man blob against our 5-15 ships they still took heavy losses and only ever got a few of us, even when they dropped warp to can exploits around a gate.

They have had their asses handed to em by pretty much every alliance that has gone into their space over the last few months and its only the fact that either the guys attacking them were not interested in holding space that they are still in 0.0.

Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.

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Originally by: Kera Delacour

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.

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Since when is a 1200+ member alliance that has held it's own space for over a year and pays rent to no-one, and in fact built it's own stations, a pet?

Agreed that they aren't exactly a PVP Powerhouse but they have held their space longer than many alliances in this game have.

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Originally by: Darc Kaahar

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Originally by: Nova Soldier

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Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri.
They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.

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Originally by: LlamaOfPoon

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Dunno how we got owned when we didn't even lose a single ship, other than a Drake due to lag (which has in fact been reimbursed).

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A blatant lie.
1hr and 15minutes after the first post and CCP has reimbursed the loss already?
Don't yank our chains please.

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Originally by: Putus Custodis

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Destry's Lounge are nothing but a small group of low sec greifers who have suvived an attack by Hydra by hiding in a station. I don't understand your post here you have nothing to brag about, you could not even field a single Cap ship of your own, you had to beg one off another corp! This does not show Hydra is weak it shows they have little or no interest in you, if you think they are weak try puting some POS down in their space or at the very least try to muster the courage to form a fleet of your own and head out to their home systems.

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Originally by: Nova Soldier

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Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri.
They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.

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Originally by: Atomic CEO

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Originally by: Kera Delacour

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.

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Since when is a 1200+ member alliance that has held it's own space for over a year and pays rent to no-one, and in fact built it's own stations, a pet?

Agreed that they aren't exactly a PVP Powerhouse but they have held their space longer than many alliances in this game have.

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I think u'll find hydra hasn't held space for over a yr, they were only formed late january. as for building its own stations only one was built by the alliance, other was a corps private venture which hydra then needed members isk to buy off them.
As for holding their space they havn't EVER had to defend it. in the almost yr they have been there not one alliance has come to vale with the intention to take it, smaller annoyances like terra incognita even needed mm and pure help to keep p3en-e clear.


So basically yes they can be classed as pets of pure/mm and should anyone with the ability to take on pure and mm or someone with a good diplo to talk pure and mm out of the fight, then hydra could easily be removed.

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Originally by: Lil Mule

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Your kidding me right? Ive been in that area of space for the last year, and Hydra has taken one pounding after another of Alliances attempting to take their space (not just harass them). Yes Pure and MM have chipped in a number of times to help out Hydra, but I have to hand it to them, I thought they were dead 6-8 months ago, but they keep on ticking (and I have no idea how!). They clearly have picked their name correctly, chop off one head and 2 more grow in its spot.

Also - Im not quite sure the point of the post, other than its amusing that Hydra chased you to a starbase to be pounded by Sentry guns - thats either stupidly ballsy, or a n00b manouever, Im not sure which. Hydra seems to like to sacrifice its pilots, so most likely it the former and not the latter.

1 Dominix, even T2 fitted = chump change. Now if you had popped a Hydra carrier, that *Might* be worth a post.

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Originally by: Lil Mule

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Your kidding me right? Ive been in that area of space for the last year, and Hydra has taken one pounding after another of Alliances attempting to take their space (not just harass them). Yes Pure and MM have chipped in a number of times to help out Hydra, but I have to hand it to them, I thought they were dead 6-8 months ago, but they keep on ticking (and I have no idea how!). They clearly have picked their name correctly, chop off one head and 2 more grow in its spot.

Also - Im not quite sure the point of the post, other than its amusing that Hydra chased you to a starbase to be pounded by Sentry guns - thats either stupidly ballsy, or a n00b manouever, Im not sure which. Hydra seems to like to sacrifice its pilots, so most likely it the former and not the latter.

1 Dominix, even T2 fitted = chump change. Now if you had popped a Hydra carrier, that *Might* be worth a post.

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Originally by: Kera Delacour

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Do not expect much from hydra other than a blob bud, we took 5-15 ships a day into their space for a while and they responded by calling in pure and MM to hold their hands and wipe their butts. Even with a 150-200 man blob against our 5-15 ships they still took heavy losses and only ever got a few of us, even when they dropped warp to can exploits around a gate.

They have had their asses handed to em by pretty much every alliance that has gone into their space over the last few months and its only the fact that either the guys attacking them were not interested in holding space that they are still in 0.0.


Well that and the fact that they are MM/PURE pets.

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Since when is a 1200+ member alliance that has held it's own space for over a year and pays rent to no-one, and in fact built it's own stations, a pet?

Agreed that they aren't exactly a PVP Powerhouse but they have held their space longer than many alliances in this game have.

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Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.

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Originally by: MAXSuicide

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.

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MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Edited by: Morvyn on 30/12/2007 20:08:37

Originally by: Nova Soldier

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Clearly Destry's Lounge is tri pets as the killbord shows that the carrier they called was tri.
They did not ran back to p3 they went to camp it because you docked you're asses in that station.If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.

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If you actually bothered to read the very killboard you're referring to (the Triumvirate killboard, I'm assuming), you'd see that we're in fact very much not TRI pets.

http://tri.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=89582
http://tri.exanimo.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=89580

EDIT: As for HYDRA simply being a pet of MM/PURE, what I've seen from HYDRA so far is that they very much lack any real PvP skill (case in point), and the only reason that they're still in 0.0 (or alive at all, for that matter) is because no other alliance really cares enough to bother taking it from them.

I think the sheer fact that they're wasting as much effort / time / resources as they are trying to fight a small 20-man corp of (mostly) newer players shows that HYDRA only exists and controls space because MM/PURE (and, to some degree, the rest of Northern Coalition) allow them to.

I honestly believe that in an evenly matched battle of skill, HYDRA would very much get owned by our team of sub-5mil SP players. Of course, HYDRA doesn't participate in evenly matched fights, they just blob their asses off to try to blow up newer players in empire.

Originally by: Nova Solider

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If you have the balls meet us in p3 for a fight we will love to kill you all.

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Yes, because HYDRA is undeniably the most ballsiest alliance in all of EVE.

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Originally by: Murina

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Edited by: Murina on 31/12/2007 00:02:28

Originally by: MAXSuicide

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.

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MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.

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i do not think you realise how crap hydra are at pvp dude.

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Originally by: MAXSuicide

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Originally by: Murina

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Edited by: Murina on 31/12/2007 00:02:28

Originally by: MAXSuicide

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Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean

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Any alliance needs help from alliances like MM and PURE to deal with a 5-15 man gang when they already have a membership of 1200 is a pet.

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MM and pure are no where near capable of even having 'pets'.

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i do not think you realise how crap hydra are at pvp dude.

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8 months ago my corp of a dozen people kept the entire alliance bottled up in a station.

Its not that i dont know how rubbish hydra are, its the fact that i know how rubbish the other 2 are (except mm that cap spams maybe) that i come to the conclusion: they cannot be pets of one another.

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Recently HYDRA

<Snip waffle>

Anyway, nice try HYDRA, better luck against those sentry guns next time -- this isn't 0.0.

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Edited by: Morvyn on 30/12/2007 21:46:17


Normally I'd agree with you that this isn't even close to post-worthy, but you seem to be forgetting that DSTYL isn't nearly powerful enough to take on any HYDRA cap fleets, let alone actually beat them.

As for HYDRA defending their space, I think the fact that MD-K -slaughtered- them and then left pretty much indicates that HYDRA is weak (compared to other alliances of it's size), and the only reason MD-K didn't take over the 0.0 there is that they didn't want to + got chased away by MM dropping cap ships on one of their POS's (just another piece of evidence to show that HYDRA is merely MM/PURE's little puppy dog alliance).

Feel free to scroll down in this forum and give MD-K's end-of-war report, and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Kind of along the lines of what steveid said, we're just standing up to them for fun, we aren't nearly ignorant enough to think that we could actually defeat HYDRA, we're just very amused by the amount of Serious Business (R) we seem to have caused for HYDRA.

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Originally by: Star Nove

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Originally by: Morvyn

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Recently HYDRA

<Snip waffle>

Anyway, nice try HYDRA, better luck against those sentry guns next time -- this isn't 0.0.

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Two things,

1: This wasn't "HYDRA" coming into Lonetrek to harass Destry. Quite frankly who are you? Before this post was linked elsewhere, I didn't know you existed. You and your carrier docked in the station so fast, I doubt anyone had time to get the name of your pilots, let alone the corp..


The "fleet" as you put it was a small gang that had been together for about an hour and a half who had scouts in various systems. Your carrier was probed out and the FC thought it'd be fun to come kill it. There was no HC involvement, it was just a bit of fun.

2: Please, don't try to compare yourselves to MDK. Whilst those stats are kinda buggy, they came and handed us our asses but we enjoyed every second of it, gained great respect for them and we learned alot from the few weeks of fighting.

Fly safe

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Originally by: MAXSuicide

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Its not that i dont know how rubbish hydra are, its the fact that i know how rubbish the other 2 are (except mm that cap spams maybe) that i come to the conclusion: they cannot be pets of one another.

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