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Rrebel
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Posted - 2007.12.30 20:55:00 -
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Well ccp has done it again they are making ratting even harder thanks to bone head ideas .Whats new we all see that every patch almost. I tried to rat using micro warp drive on my battleship now than ks to the dumb idea of cutting torps range by 75% or more. So we need a microwarp drive to keep up. Now these npc rats have a micro warp drive to that is faster then the players available microwarp drives leaving Eve players in the dust. At this rate there will no ratting and no one will continue playing this game if they make enjoying this game impossible. Evertime you get something down and figure it out some moron decides ( Hey lest see how many players we can **** off.) I wonder if this is intentional ? I myself am starting to think yes it is. Sure some players will like at always some idiot agreeing with every decision probably a ccp stooge. Jump bridges are still messed up. The target windows are still hidden behind the nav con and a lot of other bugs still in the system. Clients are no long as stable and server disconnections are even worse since expansion. Frame rates are down unless you have a top of the line system.Now they charge you a month if you change your payment options forcing you to pay another month if you want to suspend your account till the bugs get fixed. Just another way to stick it to the players. CCp you guys need to work with the players not against them if you want to keep them. Hope this gets the message across. As some one else stated If it works dont fix it.
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Rrebel
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Posted - 2007.12.30 20:57:00 -
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maybe they already had them but i have never seen the micro drive rats before myself.
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.30 20:58:00 -
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Originally by: Rrebel Well ccp has done it again they are making ratting even harder thanks to bone head ideas .Whats new we all see that every patch almost. I tried to rat using micro warp drive on my battleship now than ks to the dumb idea of cutting torps range by 75% or more. So we need a microwarp drive to keep up. Now these npc rats have a micro warp drive to that is faster then the players available microwarp drives leaving Eve players in the dust. At this rate there will no ratting and no one will continue playing this game if they make enjoying this game impossible. Evertime you get something down and figure it out some moron decides ( Hey lest see how many players we can **** off.) I wonder if this is intentional ? I myself am starting to think yes it is. Sure some players will like at always some idiot agreeing with every decision probably a ccp stooge. Jump bridges are still messed up. The target windows are still hidden behind the nav con and a lot of other bugs still in the system. Clients are no long as stable and server disconnections are even worse since expansion. Frame rates are down unless you have a top of the line system.Now they charge you a month if you change your payment options forcing you to pay another month if you want to suspend your account till the bugs get fixed. Just another way to stick it to the players. CCp you guys need to work with the players not against them if you want to keep them. Hope this gets the message across. As some one else stated If it works dont fix it.
RREBEL
Torps got boosted so people can now pvp with them. Try using cruise missiles for killing npc's. Trust me - you aint got anything wrong till you start flying Amarr!
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Lumpy McUglyface
Herd of Wildebeest
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:02:00 -
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Originally by: Rrebel Well ccp has done it again they are making ratting even harder thanks to bone head ideas .Whats new we all see that every patch almost. I tried to rat using micro warp drive on my battleship now than ks to the dumb idea of cutting torps range by 75% or more. So we need a microwarp drive to keep up. Now these npc rats have a micro warp drive to that is faster then the players available microwarp drives leaving Eve players in the dust. At this rate there will no ratting and no one will continue playing this game if they make enjoying this game impossible. Evertime you get something down and figure it out some moron decides ( Hey lest see how many players we can **** off.) I wonder if this is intentional ? I myself am starting to think yes it is. Sure some players will like at always some idiot agreeing with every decision probably a ccp stooge. Jump bridges are still messed up. The target windows are still hidden behind the nav con and a lot of other bugs still in the system. Clients are no long as stable and server disconnections are even worse since expansion. Frame rates are down unless you have a top of the line system.Now they charge you a month if you change your payment options forcing you to pay another month if you want to suspend your account till the bugs get fixed. Just another way to stick it to the players. CCp you guys need to work with the players not against them if you want to keep them. Hope this gets the message across. As some one else stated If it works dont fix it.
RREBEL
Yes. CCP is trying to make everyone quit. The more people that quit, the more money they make, right?
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Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:10:00 -
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Whoa, You know there are cruise missiles right that are actually alot better if you use'em right against rats... right?
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Militis Kolosok
Caldari Praetorian BlackGuard
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:53:00 -
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Torpedoes = PVP Cruise Missiles = PVE (and sniping for PVP, sorta)
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.12.30 21:56:00 -
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Adapt or die. ------
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.12.30 22:05:00 -
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Try fitting cruise with 3 bcs II in the lows. If you have at least cruise 4 and decent support skills you'll be getting over 500 points of raw damage per t1 missile. Plus cruise is much more effective vs cruisers and frigs than torps and only marginally less effective vs bs especially if you have the bcs installed.
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Dromidas Shadowmoon
Minmatar Storm Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.30 22:07:00 -
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NPCs have always had mwd, some of them at least. 0.0 almost all of them do. _______________________________________________ Minmatar will always go faster than you, get over it. |
Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.12.30 22:07:00 -
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A couple of thoughts!
NPCing needs to be harder. So good job CCP
Losing ships is no big deal. I lost a typhoon and a maelstrom yesterday. Today I bought a typhoon and tomorrow I will buy a maelstrom. Not a big deal. Making money in this game is Sooooo easy! _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
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NightF0x
Gallente Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.30 23:11:00 -
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NPC's have always had MWD's, atleast the frigs and cruisers did. /me drags the OP out from what ever rock he was under
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Sleepkevert
Rionnag Alba
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Posted - 2007.12.31 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: NightF0x NPC's have always had MWD's, atleast the frigs and cruisers did. /me drags the OP out from what ever rock he was under
So did battleships. I was quite amazed at sansha's going +1km/s when they got too far out of the asteroid belt's center :p _______
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Johho Bulon
Gallente Freelancer Union The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.12.31 00:28:00 -
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I think the op has come across the runaway rats bug.
It happens from time to time where the rats begin to mwd off into the distance at about 2.5km/s
Usually it is the spawns on 0.0 stations that are affected in this way but I have seen them in belts too.
BTW Rrebel, take a blue pill and chill out, **** happens and that sort of shrill reaction wont help one bit.
If it isn't the bug but rats getting out of your torp range and then hitting from distance, then follow the good advice above and invest in cruise launchers.
Either way it ain't worth making a muppet of yourself in public with the tin foil hat kinda comments. ---------------
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Shreddog
Nova Squad
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Posted - 2007.12.31 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sharupak A couple of thoughts! NPCing needs to be harder. So good job CCP Losing ships is no big deal. I lost a typhoon and a maelstrom yesterday. Today I bought a typhoon and tomorrow I will buy a maelstrom. Not a big deal. Making money in this game is Sooooo easy!
Really? What kinda crap fittings do you use? T1 and no rigs? Or maybe you ratted for hours. I dont see ratting for 2-3 hours to replace a ship as easy or fun.
Nah NPCing/missions should be made allot more profitable. One lvl4 mission shouldnt take more than 30 minutes and should give around 50 mill reward(reward+bounties). Maybe people would start taking more risks in this game then. Also it should spawn less crap in the missions to reduce lag
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.31 02:58:00 -
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yes yes welcome all to solo online.
really now?
people in WoW don't ***** that they can't solo raids.
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services The Acquisition
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:05:00 -
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I drink the sweet tears of your misery.
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Tolas
Aerthyrian Sovereignty
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:12:00 -
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Edited by: Tolas on 31/12/2007 03:12:21 NPC battleships regularly turn from me and fly away just out of torp range. Was it slightly annoying? Yes. Did I fix the problem? Yes. I swapped out my siege launchers for cruise and started pummeling the crap out of them. Sure they might not do as much torp, but they are plenty effective at taking out rats.
I don't see much of a problem with using cruise missiles on missions or ratting.
*shrug*
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad I drink the sweet tears of your misery.
heheheh
Yes ratting is now impossible. It's impossible. CCP you have destroyed ratting and now we're all going to quit over it. Because torps aren't good at it anymore. That's why.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2007.12.31 03:22:00 -
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Hint the Rats will orbit you.
So just stop chasing them and stand still.
The ones that run away will actually settle out around 52km. IF they keep going then like others have said they are bugged and will eventually come back or just move to the next belt and come back for them later.
Then use Cruise missiles. Sentry Drones etc
And get rid of them and move on to the next belt.
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Sharupak
Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun Brotherhood Of Steel
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Posted - 2007.12.31 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Shreddog
Originally by: Sharupak A couple of thoughts! NPCing needs to be harder. So good job CCP Losing ships is no big deal. I lost a typhoon and a maelstrom yesterday. Today I bought a typhoon and tomorrow I will buy a maelstrom. Not a big deal. Making money in this game is Sooooo easy!
Really? What kinda crap fittings do you use? T1 and no rigs? Or maybe you ratted for hours. I dont see ratting for 2-3 hours to replace a ship as easy or fun.
Nah NPCing/missions should be made allot more profitable. One lvl4 mission shouldnt take more than 30 minutes and should give around 50 mill reward(reward+bounties). Maybe people would start taking more risks in this game then. Also it should spawn less crap in the missions to reduce lag
t1 guns, but the rest of my stuff was t2 with 3 ccc rigs. I thought I was in a paintshop getting my rusty typhoon sandblasted by about 50 torpedoes! I didnt say I was a smart pilot.
about 50 percent of lvl 4 missions give you 50 mill or more with loot at least and salvage after it is all said and done. I think that is pretty fair. If they bump it up to your suggestion, I am certainly not going to complain.
I agree with less spawn, fewer ships that are harder to kill. _______________________________________________ RuntimeError: ChainEvent is blocking by design, but you're block trapped. You have'll have to find some alternative means to do Your Thing, dude. |
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Fehnrail
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.31 04:54:00 -
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Originally by: Rrebel Well ccp has done it again they are making ratting even harder thanks to bone head ideas .Whats new we all see that every patch almost. I tried to rat using micro warp drive on my battleship now than ks to the dumb idea of cutting torps range by 75% or more. So we need a microwarp drive to keep up. Now these npc rats have a micro warp drive to that is faster then the players available microwarp drives leaving Eve players in the dust. At this rate there will no ratting and no one will continue playing this game if they make enjoying this game impossible. Evertime you get something down and figure it out some moron decides ( Hey lest see how many players we can **** off.) I wonder if this is intentional ? I myself am starting to think yes it is. Sure some players will like at always some idiot agreeing with every decision probably a ccp stooge. Jump bridges are still messed up. The target windows are still hidden behind the nav con and a lot of other bugs still in the system. Clients are no long as stable and server disconnections are even worse since expansion. Frame rates are down unless you have a top of the line system.Now they charge you a month if you change your payment options forcing you to pay another month if you want to suspend your account till the bugs get fixed. Just another way to stick it to the players. CCp you guys need to work with the players not against them if you want to keep them. Hope this gets the message across. As some one else stated If it works dont fix it.
RREBEL
That's kinda sad.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2007.12.31 05:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rrebel Well ccp has done it again
right...
Originally by: Rrebel they are making ratting even harder
ratting is hard...?
Originally by: Rrebel they are making ratting even harder ... again
no I think you'll find they've done nothing but make it easier over time due to whines such as yours. Angel Extrav. LVL4 used to be the hardest mission out there for non-Caldari pilots, now a Zealot can passive shieldtank it without actually fitting to do so
Quote: At this rate there will no ratting and no one will continue playing this game if they make enjoying this game impossible.
there's more to this game than ratting. The game would go on just fine without it.
Quote: Frame rates are down unless you have a top of the line system
If your system can't handle Premium content, don't install it?
Quote: CCp you guys need to work with the players not against them if you want to keep them.
if CCP listened to every whingebag who posted an emo rant on the forums about how they don't care about the players etc we would have a very horrible game about now. Fortunately they only listen to most of them
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.12.31 05:52:00 -
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A while ago even the deadspace rats had MWDs. Now, at least the deadspace mission and plex rats don't run away at 2km/s.
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Thunderguts
Fusion Enterprises Ltd Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.12.31 18:31:00 -
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Originally by: Rrebel Evertime you get something down and figure it out some moron decides ( Hey lest see how many players we can **** off.) I wonder if this is intentional ?
Duh! Would you like the game if every time you figured something out, it just stayed exactly the same for months and months?
If yes, then try WOW.
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Taua Roqa
Minmatar Eve University Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.12.31 19:07:00 -
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I got rid of the new graphics client, it simply isn't worth it. I was in a nice fight (only in that we won) last night at the client itself actually broke (somehow?! i fail to understand how) with all the lag, and after crashing on me 4 times previously in the same play period, twice in situations it could have easily caused me dying. Indeed a corpy did die entirely from obscene lag issues after the fight was over.
My pc can run most games, like half life 2 on high setting etc, with respectably playable frame rates, but eve just isn't right, I should get more than one frame per minute in a skirmish, surely? Oh and none of my other games crash...well perhaps once a week.
seriously, if i wanted pwetty gwafics i'd play another game, trinity's just over greebled models anyhow.
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