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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:22:00 -
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Did I miss something? Was there a warning?
Miner IIs now require mining lvl4, which is something part time miners may or may not have. In any case it would have been nice for there to have been a better warning.
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.18 14:37:00 -
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lol now I canŠt use a Miner II __________ Capacitor research |
Brother Victae
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Posted - 2004.03.18 15:02:00 -
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What? Oh well thats great that is, I just spent most of my cash upgrading to miner 2s so I could mine some ore for my cruiser. 350k down the bloody drain.
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Viconi
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Posted - 2004.03.18 15:06:00 -
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omg mining its only a lvl 1 skill bring him to lvl 4 in 1-2days ~
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.18 15:13:00 -
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ok so i apparently wasnt the only one caught unaware.
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Deep Spacer
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Posted - 2004.03.18 15:38:00 -
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well it would have been nice to give us a warning about that..to tell u the truth i didnt notice it til i saw this post. it is a really good idea to train that up anyway, if your a heavy miner like me your gonna want astrogeology, which requires mining 4 and science 4. yet another stupid change from CCP that doesnt do anything but restrict the new players and non miners
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DeathStar
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Posted - 2004.03.18 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: DeathStar on 18/03/2004 16:09:26 They dont need to give out warnings. I guess they are doing this to stage things out a bit more, stop new chars rushing into the best items. Same as missiles...
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.03.18 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kreeper on 18/03/2004 17:04:40
damn! thats all i have is miner2's. thanks for the warning! wait i didnt get one........
well it would really take a newbie some time to advanced to a good stage in the game.....^^^^your right -----------------------------------------------
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.18 17:04:00 -
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I am not disagreeing with the change, I just think its ridiculous that they can change something this fundamental without at least warning us that they are going to do so.
How would you react if you logged on and suddenly you needed Large Projecticle Turret Lvl4 to fit 1400mm Artillery (although this would obvioously be a larger change for me).
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Masochist
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Posted - 2004.03.18 17:34:00 -
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Quote: I am not disagreeing with the change, I just think its ridiculous that they can change something this fundamental without at least warning us that they are going to do so.
How would you react if you logged on and suddenly you needed Large Projecticle Turret Lvl4 to fit 1400mm Artillery (although this would obvioously be a larger change for me).
Personally I think you should need level 4 (in the appropriate skill) to equip and battleship sized weapon or module. You've brought up a good idea. I think CCP should fix that as soon as possible.
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.18 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 18/03/2004 18:45:31 which might be a good change, but it would be retarded if they just changed it all of a sudden without telling anyone ...
like they did with cruise missles. At least, however, in this case you can still use them if you could use them before.
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.03.18 18:50:00 -
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at least i was at miner lvl 3 [m] so hopefully not a long training time. will be a set back tonight on the ore production. i think everyone can work around it. but i still agree that a email or evemail would have been sent to explain better. looks like a whole night of tracking miner 1's down. if theres any left lol [m] -----------------------------------------------
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Ronin Hybonashi
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Posted - 2004.03.19 00:35:00 -
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Edited by: Ronin Hybonashi on 19/03/2004 00:37:22 I would of thought they would have made is so lvl 1 astrogeology was the requirement, and make mining lvl 5 a requirement for astrogeology. Makes a bit more sense since you need lvl 5 astrog to train for DCM's. Perhaps making so you need a lvl 4 engineering as well.
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Captain Brownfinger
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Posted - 2004.03.19 01:03:00 -
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Wow. You really have nothing better to do than to moan about this ?? If you mine so much that this has a major impact on your production then maybe you should have already had mining to level 4 to begin with. Its not difficult to train a rank 1 skill to level 4. Plus if picking up a few miner 1s to hold you over breaks your bank accout then you sorry but you suck. While a warning would have been nice. Its not something worth whining about.
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Arcane
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:25:00 -
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Quote: Personally I think you should need level 4 (in the appropriate skill) to equip and battleship sized weapon or module.
Actually isn't that what a LARGE wapon skil is for... equipping BS sized weapons??? So why should we need lvl 4 I would say that this is more likely in case you want to fit a tech II weapon then (tech III+ will for sure need additional skills then anyway)
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Zed Nash
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Posted - 2004.03.19 02:50:00 -
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Most Level 2 items require level 4 skills, this change just brings mining back in line with everything else. In truth, the change makes sense.
And it's not like it's something you can't remedy relatively quickly with a little training.
So quit complaining and start training.................
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.19 05:15:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 19/03/2004 05:18:30
Quote: Wow. You really have nothing better to do than to moan about this ?? If you mine so much that this has a major impact on your production then maybe you should have already had mining to level 4 to begin with. Its not difficult to train a rank 1 skill to level 4. Plus if picking up a few miner 1s to hold you over breaks your bank accout then you sorry but you suck. While a warning would have been nice. Its not something worth whining about.
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Most Level 2 items require level 4 skills, this change just brings mining back in line with everything else. In truth, the change makes sense.
And it's not like it's something you can't remedy relatively quickly with a little training.
So quit complaining and start training.................
How many times do i need to repeat myself for blithering fools like yourselves.
As I have said (what 3-4 times now?), I do not disagree with the change itself, they just needed to tell people that it was coming.
Now in case anyone else wants to make the same ignorant comment as these guys, please READ what I write first.
/end frustrated anti-troll rant.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.03.19 07:45:00 -
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Quote: well it would have been nice to give us a warning about that..to tell u the truth i didnt notice it til i saw this post. it is a really good idea to train that up anyway, if your a heavy miner like me your gonna want astrogeology, which requires mining 4 and science 4. yet another stupid change from CCP that doesnt do anything but restrict the new players and non miners
deep.. ur avoidance in PVP is whidly known trought galaxy -------------------------------------------
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.03.19 14:08:00 -
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Edited by: Kreeper on 19/03/2004 15:25:31 whining about the traing is sort of wothless i geuss.. dumb me and i dont suck brownfinger....
as for a NEW player like myself with mining the only source of income that the setback wont hurt me. but the change seems to be understood. oh well.... -----------------------------------------------
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.19 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Baun on 19/03/2004 17:22:12
Quote: Edited by: Kreeper on 19/03/2004 15:25:31 whining about the traing is sort of wothless i geuss.. dumb me and i dont suck brownfinger....
as for a NEW player like myself with mining the only source of income that the setback wont hurt me. but the change seems to be understood. oh well....
/commence second frustrated anti-troll rant
Ok apparently I do have to repeat myself AGAIN, for other ignorant, non-reading, trolling and blithering fools. I am NOT, yes N O T (N (as in no) O (as in oscar) T (as in tom)) complaining about the change itself.
I am complaining that there was no warning given. Surely the intent of the change was not to catch people by suprise such that a certain percentage of the eve population would not be able to mine effectively for a day, but rather to require a greater investment in skills to mine with good equipment. I have no problem with the intent, they just need to stop springing requirement changes on the EVE population with no warning.
Now, if there was a warning (although I am pretty sure that there was not one), it needed to have been articulated more clearly and more visibly.
/end 4th (5th?) repitition
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.03.19 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Kreeper on 19/03/2004 20:34:50 Edited by: Kreeper on 19/03/2004 20:33:31 Edited by: Kreeper on 19/03/2004 20:32:31 i didnt mean u were whining i was the only one....
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Baun
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Posted - 2004.03.19 23:13:00 -
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well then my apologies, it was ambiguous and the others were getting me worked up :)
sorry again.
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Kreeper
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Posted - 2004.03.23 16:12:00 -
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NP i know what u mean. i was whining about the training because
one night im using them and the next i cant. but cpt dipstick had my blood preasure high lol he said i sux cya friend
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