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MrSpaceDragon
Dragon Buddies
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Posted - 2012.02.08 07:57:00 -
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Dear Developers,
I'm making this petition public so others can post their opinions to it. (either for or against)
Please put the small drone bay back on the Moros. I know the Moros is a Dread and was designed mainly for seiging stationary structures, and I appreciate the slight increase in overall dps it recieved with the release of Eve Crucible.
However, it is a Gallentean Ship! And Gallente have Drones. Not only that but with the drone bay, the Moros could also be used as a great ratting ship in certain null sec areas. I know most people would not use it for that, but that was my specific reason for training skills for that ship. I live in a relatively safe null sec system and I wanted to go ratting with it. But without a drone bay, even a small npc frigate can warp jam me, and I can't do anything about it because it no longer has drones to fight frigates.
Giving the Moros a simple Drone bay of say, 100 cubic meters will not give it a significant advantage on a battle field nor will it help it to destroy stationary structures, but it would be extremely helpfull for unconventional players like myself who like to do things a little differently simply because we can.
thanks, Dragon |
Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.08 08:06:00 -
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How about No..
I could list reasons to counter your Idiotic proposal but quite frankly you probably would just carry on drooling on your keyboard anyway. |
MrSpaceDragon
Dragon Buddies
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Posted - 2012.02.08 08:09:00 -
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Maximille Biagge wrote:How about No..
I could list reasons to counter your Idiotic proposal but quite frankly you probably would just carry on drooling on your keyboard anyway.
thanks for your extremely helpful input. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.08 08:24:00 -
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I agree it should have drones its Gallente but not the old bay it had. Like 25-50 Bwt and 25-75m3 bay. All Gallente ships should have some drone bay just like all Caldari ships should have at least 1 launcher slot.
I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec.-áMake FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do.Give us some more activities to do. |
Whiteknight03
WESAYSO Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.08 08:50:00 -
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I'd say chances are good that the drone bay was removed specifically so that a Moros can't deal with frigates tackling it. If you add a drone bay, it will be able to deal with frigates tackling it. How about no?
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Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
127
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Posted - 2012.02.08 09:13:00 -
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Whiteknight03 wrote:I'd say chances are good that the drone bay was removed specifically so that a Moros can't deal with frigates tackling it. If you add a drone bay, it will be able to deal with frigates tackling it. How about no?
But that's like saying dreads shouldn't be able to fit tracking mods or webs or target painters or be tracking linked or even be in a fleet. I do think 125Bwth and 500 bay with a 20% damage bonus was way too much(like more than a domi much). And more importantly gave it the ability to crush T2 cruisers, BC's and BS's. But 25-50 un-bonused drone bandwidth wouldn't be that game breaking. The frigg would still be in control.
I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec.-áMake FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do.Give us some more activities to do. |
Uppsy Daisy
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.08 09:26:00 -
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I disagree.
Capital ships should be weak against smaller ships, not good against everything.
Dreadnaughts role is to shoot at structures and other capital ships. |
Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:06:00 -
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And here are the reasons:
- Dreads main role should remain to shoot other big game, namely other capitals and structures. As it stands, even now they are used for PVE content already and with great success that is. Just take a look at wormhole gang fits and youGÇÖll be surprised. If you wane do the same in 0.0, I suggest you adjust. Form a gang or use your alt and go for it. While I normally oppose to all the GÇ£this is a mmo, bring friendsGÇ¥-sayers, I believe that a powerful ship class like capitals in general should be designed to need support to shine. A drone bay as suggested by you would not be in line with that.
- The Moros is already the most powerful dread. Giving it a drone bay and leaving the other dreads out will lead to further imbalance.
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Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:12:00 -
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MrSpaceDragon wrote:Maximille Biagge wrote:How about No..
I could list reasons to counter your Idiotic proposal but quite frankly you probably would just carry on drooling on your keyboard anyway. thanks for your extremely helpful input.
Ok if you insist on helpful input:
no.
You even admit in your OP that you "know the Moros is a Dread and was designed mainly for seiging stationary structures" and then go on to state that you however want to use it in pretty much the most opposite role imaginable - to rat in your safe nullsec system.
And because recent changes to the Moros (changes which have made it excell in it's intended role) have prohibited YOU from doing what YOU want the developers should now change the Moros for YOU?
A dreadnaught is a capital weapons platform designed to lay siege to your enemies' bastions, a machine born to wage war against empires. Not to sit in havens and earn you isk you selfish idiot.
You say you are an unconventional player and like to do things differently because you can, well how about adapting to the situation you are now presented with instead of pleading with the game developers to change it back to the way you want. |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:47:00 -
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No, just train Thanatos and go rate with like all null bots or pick a Tengu (so expensive as the moros by the way with pimp fit) |
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Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:23:00 -
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I just think all Gallente ships should have some drone capability's even if it's weak. Just like how all Caldari boats should have at least one missile launcher slot even if you wont normaly use it. I am in Factional Warfare. Have been from day one.-á-áI will never work for a mega corp in null-sec. Do not make FW like null-sec.-áMake FW worth our time. Reword us for what we already do.Give us some more activities to do. |
Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:42:00 -
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After the change tho Moros suddenly became about the most popular dread in the game easily doing more dps than the other dreads and even being able to hit large towers without trouble...
I'd say tone down the Moros a little, but you want it to have an extra drone bay?? |
Cambarus
Socially Awkward Pancreas
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:00:00 -
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If you can actually fly a moros, hop on the test server and fight some other caps. You'll soon see why the moros most certainly does not need any sort of buff. I still do it sometimes just for fun, because it can take on 2-3 other capitals and mop the floor with them. |
Griznatch
Xicron Syndicate Double Tap.
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:18:00 -
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Why not just bring an alt in a vexor? I used to have a clever sig but I lost it. |
Cyniac
Twilight Star Rangers Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:27:00 -
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MrSpaceDragon wrote:Giving the Moros a simple Drone bay of say, 100 cubic meters will not give it a significant advantage on a battle field nor will it help it to destroy stationary structures, but it would be extremely helpfull for unconventional players like myself who like to do things a little differently simply because we can.
This is where you are wrong.
Giving the Moros back its drone bay would give it a very significant advantage precisely because it would allow it to deal with light tackle (frigates) on its own, something that no other dread can do.
Yes the Moros is Gallente, and yes Gallente favour drones, but not all gallente ships *have* to have a drone bay. Or do you think the Anshar should also have a little drone bay just because? |
mxzf
Shovel Bros
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:55:00 -
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MrSpaceDragon wrote:However, it is a Gallentean Ship! And Gallente have Drones.
This is just stupid. There are a decent number of Gallente ships that don't have drones, namely ships that have specialized roles which are not tied to drones.
Anshar Ares Erebus Gallente Shuttle Iteron I-V Moros Nemesis Obelisk Occator Phobos Viator
Look through these ships. Do you see a pattern? All of these ships have very specialized roles and don't need drones. For the Moros specifically, it's because it's designed for capital and anti-structure warfare. It's not designed for killing smaller ships, it's designed for killing capitals. Adding a drone bay, even 25m3 (you might say especially a small one) would be contrary to its purpose and would make it massively OP compared to other dreads due to the fact that it could defend itself with either Warrior 2s vs tackling frigs or even light ECM drones for breaking locks. |
Ireland VonVicious
Gurista Saints Assassin Confederacy
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Posted - 2012.02.08 21:01:00 -
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I hate the idea of giving dreads drones. If you gave it to one they'd all have to get them to stay on par with eachother.
With that said give it one light drone like a destroyer. Something a frigate wouldn't worry about too much. Just for fun. |
Mfume Apocal
Origin. Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.02.09 04:44:00 -
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Pinky Denmark wrote:After the change tho Moros suddenly became about the most popular dread in the game easily doing more dps than the other dreads and even being able to hit large towers without trouble...
It can do more damage than a Nyx, depending on the fit. People bitching about drones need to stop smoking that ****. |
Daniel L'Siata
Echelon Conflict Resolution. Psychotic Tendencies.
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Posted - 2012.02.09 06:32:00 -
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*Slightly* more DPS???
What the hell are you smoking. **** drones, I like pulling 17k DPS |
Roosterton
Syndicalis Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.02.09 15:40:00 -
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Huh?
Moros already has the best raw DPS of all dreadnaughts, as well as the best ability to kill subcaps. |
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