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amagonsan
Minmatar Perpetual Reality Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 14:44:00 -
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History has the tendancy to repeat it self, so what happened to BoB (80% of eve wanting them dead), could/will happen to goonswarm. Its only a matter of time before their people will consider BoB to be less of a treat then goonswarm and turn on them.
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PR0PAGANDA
Gallente Raging Emo
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:03:00 -
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the only real way goon win is if say molle, coranor, and other top leadership in bob quit the game.
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Natas Dog
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: amagonsan History has the tendancy to repeat it self, so what happened to BoB (80% of eve wanting them dead), could/will happen to goonswarm. Its only a matter of time before their people will consider BoB to be less of a treat then goonswarm and turn on them.
Impossible, there can never be another treat bigger than Goonswarm.
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Viktor Konstantine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: amagonsan History has the tendancy to repeat it self, so what happened to BoB (80% of eve wanting them dead), could/will happen to goonswarm. Its only a matter of time before their people will consider BoB to be less of a treat then goonswarm and turn on them.
No ****? We all know it's all going to come crashing down in a glorious maelstrom of drama at some point, it's not like anybodies fake internet spaceship collective is going to last forever. The fun part will be when every disgruntled poster that has been beaten and evicted by RSF will post a year or two after the fact going "HAHA I TOLD YOU SO," as if the inevitble finally happening somehow justifies their bitterness or vindicates their failures.
Also, taking anything arghy says seriously is probably something you should not do.
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Ichi Hon
Gallente Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: R3dSh1ft I love these kinds of posts :)
The thing is, the EVE community is self-repairing in that as a collective they will rise up against any one power that is too strong as has happened in the past and now is happening with BoB.
Because 99% of players agree that hegemony is a bad word. Regions changing hands, warfare large and small scale is what makes EVE fun - any party trying to control our fun will be ganged up on :)
I'm not sure I believe this "EvE self-repairing community" line. All I've seen in the past few months is Alliances that were terrified of a fight with BoB jumping in on a "BoB kill" after RSF had done all of the work. Really, all these northern/drone region alliances wouldn't have stood a chance in hell vs. BoB even as a collective if RSF wasn't around. RSF is THE power in the anti-BoB coalition, the rest are just Johnny-Come-Latelys.
So let's say BoB dies. RSF controls what....40% of space? In addition, they have the military that finally did to BoB what no other group even came close to doing. Doesn't that automatically make them the 'one power that is too strong' you mentioned in your post?
Would AAA (as a member of this self-reparing EvE community) really goto war with RSF in a post-BoB EvE? I somehow doubt it. And without AAA/IAC/Tortuga (assuming they are even left to live) in an anti-RSF coalition there really is no other combination of alliances that could take them on.
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shaerc
Tree of Liberty
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:50:00 -
[36]
Goons have won the war. It was them vs BoB.
Sure some others tagged along, but Goons won the battles, did the best, and take all the credit.
They are the new best in EVE.
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Korizan
Oort Cloud Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.09 15:54:00 -
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Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:57:12
This is what I find so interesting about the Goons/ BOB conflict.
In the process of taking out the evil oppressors "BOB" Goons has become "BOB". They currently control more territory and have more numbers then any other Alliance in the game So now the Goons essentially are the evil oppressors.
Not that this is a new story. It has happened many times in EVE before.
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:01:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:57:12
This is what I find so interesting about the Goons/ BOB conflict.
In the process of taking out the evil oppressors "BOB" Goons has become "BOB". They currently control more territory and have more numbers then any other Alliance in the game So now the Goons essentially are the evil oppressors.
Not that this is a new story. It has happened many times in EVE before.
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
Almost the entire community hated Goons before this, they will eventually remember why. It's quite a testament to BoB that they became so much more hated that Goons that people seem to have forgotten this.
I must say I have to admire and respect people who have consistently hated goons since the beginning times and still do now.
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shaerc
Tree of Liberty
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:57:12
This is what I find so interesting about the Goons/ BOB conflict.
In the process of taking out the evil oppressors "BOB" Goons has become "BOB". They currently control more territory and have more numbers then any other Alliance in the game So now the Goons essentially are the evil oppressors.
Not that this is a new story. It has happened many times in EVE before.
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
Almost the entire community hated Goons before this, they will eventually remember why. It's quite a testament to BoB that they became so much more hated that Goons that people seem to have forgotten this.
I must say I have to admire and respect people who have consistently hated goons since the beginning times and still do now.
Goons were well liked and generally had a good public opinion until quite a bit after XZH.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:28:00 -
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Originally by: shaerc
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:57:12
This is what I find so interesting about the Goons/ BOB conflict.
In the process of taking out the evil oppressors "BOB" Goons has become "BOB". They currently control more territory and have more numbers then any other Alliance in the game So now the Goons essentially are the evil oppressors.
Not that this is a new story. It has happened many times in EVE before.
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
Almost the entire community hated Goons before this, they will eventually remember why. It's quite a testament to BoB that they became so much more hated that Goons that people seem to have forgotten this.
I must say I have to admire and respect people who have consistently hated goons since the beginning times and still do now.
Goons were well liked and generally had a good public opinion until quite a bit after XZH.
I disagree. Let me refresh your memory a bit. Remedial, FirstName LastName.
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HEY LISTEN
Minmatar i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
I disagree. Let me refresh your memory a bit. Remedial, FirstName LastName.
I think you are confusing hate for a lack of respect nobody realy respects goons even now they have overwhelming numbers let alone back then.
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Jirai Grepher
Eve Defence Force Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: arghy steelwill have the resources of 8 regions behind us with the best logistics of any alliance in EVE.
Thats what everyone said about Bob as well. The names might change, but Bob and Goons are not so different. _________________
The former and original Pel Mel
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:37:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN
Originally by: Nekumi
I disagree. Let me refresh your memory a bit. Remedial, FirstName LastName.
I think you are confusing hate for a lack of respect nobody realy respects goons even now they have overwhelming numbers let alone back then.
I'm not confused, I just don't have the memory of a goldfish like much of this community seems to.
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Agent2 Holtze
Amarr x13 When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Navigator Keep it on topic, please.
One word replies and useless spam will be removed and warned for.
If you need examples of what constitutes spam:
mlyp :arghy: You are the worst poster You are the best poster Goons are terrible BoB are only here for Good fights etc.
The days of useless spamming CAOD are over.
You are the worst poster
Posting and you!
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K'reemy G'udness
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Agent2 Holtze
Originally by: CCP Navigator Keep it on topic, please.
One word replies and useless spam will be removed and warned for.
If you need examples of what constitutes spam:
mlyp :arghy: You are the worst poster You are the best poster Goons are terrible BoB are only here for Good fights etc.
The days of useless spamming CAOD are over.
You are the worst poster
Iceburn. ---
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shaerc
Tree of Liberty
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: shaerc
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:57:12
This is what I find so interesting about the Goons/ BOB conflict.
In the process of taking out the evil oppressors "BOB" Goons has become "BOB". They currently control more territory and have more numbers then any other Alliance in the game So now the Goons essentially are the evil oppressors.
Not that this is a new story. It has happened many times in EVE before.
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
Almost the entire community hated Goons before this, they will eventually remember why. It's quite a testament to BoB that they became so much more hated that Goons that people seem to have forgotten this.
I must say I have to admire and respect people who have consistently hated goons since the beginning times and still do now.
Goons were well liked and generally had a good public opinion until quite a bit after XZH.
I disagree. Let me refresh your memory a bit. Remedial, FirstName LastName.
What about them? The general community was pretty fond of Goonfleet in those days. Remedial and FNLN had a few fanboys who hated their guts (and with good reason...).
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Ichi Hon
Gallente Madhatters Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:52:00 -
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Originally by: Jirai Grepher
Originally by: arghy steelwill have the resources of 8 regions behind us with the best logistics of any alliance in EVE.
Thats what everyone said about Bob as well. The names might change, but Bob and Goons are not so different.
Actually to be fair that sounds very similar to what people (especially ASCN leadership) were saying about ASCN at the start of the BoB/ASCN war.
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:52:00 -
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I'm just happy to hear that we'll be winning. After that post that said "Why goons will lose" I'd been worried.
Also :arghy:
Originally by: Rilewedge I reject the, "ends justify the means" mentality of you and your ilk.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: shaerc
What about them? The general community was pretty fond of Goonfleet in those days. Remedial and FNLN had a few fanboys who hated their guts (and with good reason...).
Name any group or provide some evidence that anyone outside of a very small minority ever liked goons prior to XZH.
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BeefSupreme
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 16:59:00 -
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Although I agree with some of ArghyÆs sentiments I disagree with the fact that he believes goonswarmÆs long term goal of becoming a hegemony. The future for Goonswarm, and EvE in totality is one of CHAOS, not order. The reason why BoB and goons could never come to a peaceful resolution was the fact that we both represented very different alignments. For instance BoB represents Lawful EVIL alignment, while the Goons are Chaotic neutral. Of course there is no way for two entities of our size and power to share the same universe as our chaotic nature would oppose the balance of order which was created by the monolith that was the Band of Brother alliance.
So to Arghy I say, no! The future of eve is not one of goon domination but of complete chaos, where constant warfare between smaller partiesÆ reigns the day and one can not worry about large territorial conflicts since the reason for such defense, the Band of Brothers alliance will be crushed.
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HEY LISTEN
Minmatar i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:22:00 -
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Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 09/01/2008 17:26:17
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: shaerc
What about them? The general community was pretty fond of Goonfleet in those days. Remedial and FNLN had a few fanboys who hated their guts (and with good reason...).
Name any group or provide some evidence that anyone outside of a very small minority ever liked goons prior to XZH.
Can you show the same for a group actualy hating GOON instead of having no respect for them?.
Theres loads of alliances and players in EVE who hate BOB simply because of the ammount of aliances they have ripped apart but the fact is that GOON have never achieved that level of respect or fear (depending on what side you were on during the BOB wars) so they have never been loved or hated by anybody, goons at best are considered just noisy annoying blobbers even to their allies.
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shaerc
Tree of Liberty
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: shaerc
What about them? The general community was pretty fond of Goonfleet in those days. Remedial and FNLN had a few fanboys who hated their guts (and with good reason...).
Name any group or provide some evidence that anyone outside of a very small minority ever liked goons prior to XZH.
Yeah man im just gonna go dig up some internet research to back up my forum statements, brb.
There was no reason to dislike Goons before BOB declared war, and they became forum warriors. They were just an underdog group who made funny photoshops and flash movies.
Ofc Goons have always had a huge amount of bitters in their alliance, people just didnt know yet.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 09/01/2008 17:26:17
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: shaerc
What about them? The general community was pretty fond of Goonfleet in those days. Remedial and FNLN had a few fanboys who hated their guts (and with good reason...).
Name any group or provide some evidence that anyone outside of a very small minority ever liked goons prior to XZH.
Can you show the same for a group actualy hating GOON instead of having no respect for them?.
Theres loads of alliances and players in EVE who hate BOB simply because of the ammount of aliances they have ripped apart but the fact is that GOON have never achieved that level of respect or fear (depending on what side you were on during the BOB wars) so they have never been loved or hated by anybody, goons at best are considered just noisy annoying blobbers even to their allies.
Just use evesearch with the criteria goon.
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Yussef
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: Yussef on 09/01/2008 17:31:31 Arghy means serious business people. Heed his words!
Originally by: Sergeant Spot --Did BoB "plan" to lose all its space? No, and it might not happen either, but even if it does, its still just a detail within a success
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Elecktra Black
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:52:00 -
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Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:58:51
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
We all heard what goons did in 49-, and they always do this. They turn on themselves and start killing each other. They are simply too big not to fall to pieces when left to themselves. It seems to me that the only things holding them together are a propaganda induced hatred of BoB who they know is better than them and those funny little group activities they get up to. Funny little group activity, as I have seen= A bunch of noob goonies jumping it frigates and buzzing around in happy little circles telling each other how great they are, followed by the mass murder of each other. All very bonding of course...kind of like one imagines get-to-know-each-other activities at a summer camp.
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Vahl
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:54:00 -
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In two years our plan will come to fruition. We will have rallied the EVE community against us and we can then have epic fights without having to leave our base region. Its so simple. We can't lose. _________________________________________________________
==REDSWARM FEDERATION==
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:54:00 -
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Originally by: Elecktra Black
Originally by: Korizan Edited by: Korizan on 09/01/2008 15:58:51
So what will the Goons do now as the evil is within ?
We all heard what goons did in 49-, and they always do this. They turn on themselves and start killing each other. They are simply too big not to fall to pieces when left to themselves. It seems to me that the only things holding them together are a propaganda induced hatred of BoB who they know is better than them and those funny little group activities they get up to. Funny little group activity, as I have seen= A bunch of noob goonies jumping it frigates and buzzing around in happy little circles telling each other how great they are, followed by the mass murder of each other. All very bonding of course...kind of like one imagines get-to-know-each-other activities at a summer camp.
The secret rituals of goons have a long and storied history. Someone like you would never understand. Every pilot that sacrificed themselves has achieved a new level of enlightenment that cannot be touched by anyone.
They are simply better than you.
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Danyael Tyren
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:55:00 -
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I will never understand, how after all this time, there can still be people who post here that honestly believe Goons care about respect, fear, or anything, at all.
Oh God, there are people in an internet spaceship game that don't respect or fear us!
I will have to bring this to the attention of our diplo's.
As soon as they aren't high and drunk anymore.
That means never.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.09 18:02:00 -
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Originally by: Sokratesz
Originally by: MAXSuicide
good, we've gotten over the denial stage. the next step is to openly admit you have a problem.
We don't. Come try us.
ahahahaha. been there, done that when the crew was just D00m. - they didnt want to fight.
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HEY LISTEN
Minmatar i swear this is true
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Posted - 2008.01.09 18:05:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: HEY LISTEN Edited by: HEY LISTEN on 09/01/2008 17:26:17
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: shaerc
What about them? The general community was pretty fond of Goonfleet in those days. Remedial and FNLN had a few fanboys who hated their guts (and with good reason...).
Name any group or provide some evidence that anyone outside of a very small minority ever liked goons prior to XZH.
Can you show the same for a group actualy hating GOON instead of having no respect for them?.
Theres loads of alliances and players in EVE who hate BOB simply because of the ammount of aliances they have ripped apart but the fact is that GOON have never achieved that level of respect or fear (depending on what side you were on during the BOB wars) so they have never been loved or hated by anybody, goons at best are considered just noisy annoying blobbers even to their allies.
Just use evesearch with the criteria goon.
Done.
I see zero hate or love just a total lack of respect even from your allies although they tend to post with alts just like i do.
You are useful at the moment and so is your obsession with killing BOB by spamming blobs at them, it saves mine and the other larger alliances in EVE from annoying its members by getting into huge desynch blob fights.
Convieneint and useful for now aint hated or loved pal.
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