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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2012.02.14 04:46:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote: These comments apply for the discussion and should be treated as such.
You, on the other hand, feel it's important to pull in words like intolerance and accuse me of not being able to interact with other people (lol) in hope that it will reduce the number of votes I get. Spaceships really are an important business, right? That's something they use in RL politics to bring down an opponent. Dirty and cheap tricks.
"my support of the nazi party and the kkk is not relevant to this election. mods? mods?" |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.02.14 05:59:00 -
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I'm pretty politically astute and even I wouldn't want to try and stand in front of the inevitable trainwreck that this candidacy is going to produce. |
Armlaa Lenbar
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.02.14 12:26:00 -
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Two step wrote: Well, seeing as how much of the job of a CSM delegate is to interact with other people, some of whom are Jewish, and some of whom are other races and religions, your apparent intolerance is pretty important. I don't consider this off topic at all.
It seems you are implying that Jewish people are somehow ... disabled and require special effort to communicate. Let me remind that "tolerance" is also a word which describes resistance to poisonous substances. Well placed insult sir !
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Aneremon
FSB-ALFA RED.OverLord
2
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Posted - 2012.02.14 18:28:00 -
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+1 |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
1100
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Posted - 2012.02.14 19:01:00 -
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Armlaa Lenbar wrote:Two step wrote: Well, seeing as how much of the job of a CSM delegate is to interact with other people, some of whom are Jewish, and some of whom are other races and religions, your apparent intolerance is pretty important. I don't consider this off topic at all.
It seems you are implying that Jewish people are somehow ... disabled and require special effort to communicate. Let me remind that "tolerance" is also a word which describes resistance to poisonous substances. Well placed insult sir !
Usually, I don't bother to reply to trolls, but I couldn't resist this one. I have no idea where you are possibly getting to that conclusion. Someone that seems to have anti-Semitic viewpoints would clearly have trouble effectively communicating with Jewish people. Nowhere do I imply that it takes any sort of special effort to communicate with Jews (or with any other race or religion). Vote Two step for CSM 7 CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
129
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Posted - 2012.02.14 19:13:00 -
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Two step wrote:Uh, the quotes that I linked? In one you make a comment that seems like it is intended to be anti-Semitic, and in the other one you praise David Duke, who was a leader of the ***, a group not exactly known for their tolerance. Both of those topics came up during a balance discussion, which implies to me that you feel they are important, or why would you have mentioned them?
To be fair, the anti-semite and white supremacist vote is as yet untapped in CSM elections.... |
Armlaa Lenbar
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.02.14 19:37:00 -
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Two step wrote:Armlaa Lenbar wrote:Two step wrote: Well, seeing as how much of the job of a CSM delegate is to interact with other people, some of whom are Jewish, and some of whom are other races and religions, your apparent intolerance is pretty important. I don't consider this off topic at all.
It seems you are implying that Jewish people are somehow ... disabled and require special effort to communicate. Let me remind that "tolerance" is also a word which describes resistance to poisonous substances. Well placed insult sir ! Usually, I don't bother to reply to trolls, but I couldn't resist this one. I have no idea where you are possibly getting to that conclusion. Someone that seems to have anti-Semitic viewpoints would clearly have trouble effectively communicating with Jewish people. Nowhere do I imply that it takes any sort of special effort to communicate with Jews (or with any other race or religion).
It seems that you hold people in low esteem - first you state that you are better candidate because you tolerate us (thank you very much for your tolerance) then you say that Fon who expresses views very similiar to Leumi platform will have trouble because of his political stance. Can you please point me to the quote where Fon expresses his anti-semitism ?
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4901
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:35:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote: You, on the other hand, feel it's important to pull in words like intolerance and accuse me of not being able to interact with other people (lol) in hope that it will reduce the number of votes I get. Spaceships really are an important business, right? That's something they use in RL politics to bring down an opponent. Dirty and cheap tricks.
You posted, without being prompted, your support of David Duke - a Klansman, for those of you who don't live in Freedomland - and mouthed off about 'racial realism'.
This isn't 'RL politics', this is 'You are now in the same class of candidate as Xenuria and that Objectivist guy' - a damaged human being who vomits forth ideas that deserve nothing but scorn, while rationalizing the condemnation of society as a twisted badge of honor.
Your views are wretched.
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
470
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:42:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: Your views are wretched.
Who's a mittani once again? \o/ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2061
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:44:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:The Mittani wrote: Your views are wretched.
Who's a mittani once again?
you should really stop trying to deflect yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Retar Aveymone
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2012.02.14 20:46:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:The Mittani wrote: Your views are wretched.
Who's a mittani once again? look it thinks its people |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:08:00 -
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So can you still run if your likes drop back below 100 before the deadline? |
Armlaa Lenbar
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:08:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote: You, on the other hand, feel it's important to pull in words like intolerance and accuse me of not being able to interact with other people (lol) in hope that it will reduce the number of votes I get. Spaceships really are an important business, right? That's something they use in RL politics to bring down an opponent. Dirty and cheap tricks.
You posted, without being prompted, your support of David Duke - a Klansman, for those of you who don't live in Freedomland - and mouthed off about 'racial realism'. This isn't 'RL politics', this is 'You are now in the same class of candidate as Xenuria and that Objectivist guy' - a damaged human being who vomits forth ideas that deserve nothing but scorn, while rationalizing the condemnation of society as a twisted badge of honor. Your views are wretched. I dont live in the land of true freedom, so I took liberty to look up the guy in the wiki. I know its far from reliable source, but still Reference to ku-klux-klan
Quote: also reformed the organization, promoting nonviolence and legality, and, for the first time in the Klan's history, women were accepted as equal members and Catholics were encouraged to apply for membership.[70] Duke would repeatedly insist that the Klan was "not anti-black", but rather "pro-white" and "pro-Christian."
In my view a guy did a good job taking charge of those violent loonies and transformied them into something useful to the society.
But there's more.
Quote: Duke wrote a self-help book for women to raise money under the pseudonym Dorothy Vanderbilt and James Konrad, titled Finders-Keepers GÇô Finding and Keeping the Man You Want which contains sexual, diet, fashion, cosmetic and relationship advice, published by Arlington Place Books in 1976.
And he wrote a relation advice book ???? Wonder if he secretly publishes romance novels for middle-aged divorced women ? =)
Quote: Duke pleaded guilty to what prosecutors described as a six-year scheme to dupe thousands of his followers by asking for donations. Through postal mail, Duke later appealed to his supporters that he was about to lose his house and his life savings. Prosecutors claimed that Duke raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in this campaign. Prosecutors also claimed he sold his home at a hefty profit, had multiple investment accounts, and spent much of his money gambling at casinos
Damn ! This guy must have been goon !
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Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
135
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:09:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:Who's a mittani once again? A human being, at the least. Pity it's something you have several aeons of evolution to aspire to.
Though you have perhaps a day or two on Armlaa, who is your anal carbuncle sucking toady in this thread. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |
Armlaa Lenbar
Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:11:00 -
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Largo Coronet wrote:Fon Revedhort wrote:Who's a mittani once again? A human being, at the least. Pity it's something you have several aeons of evolution to aspire to. I dont know what to be more ashamed of. Fon worshipping an aging clown or your knowledge of history and lack of google skills =) |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
470
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:13:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:So can you still run if your likes drop back below 100 before the deadline? Wow, I've never thought I had that much support from goons.
Thanks for bumps, btw. \o/ |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:15:00 -
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Fon Revedhort wrote:The Mittani wrote: Your views are wretched.
Who's a mittani once again?
They were an Indo-Aryan people so you would like them. |
TFirish3
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:19:00 -
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So your platform is based on the nerf bat then? |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
43
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:20:00 -
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TFirish3 wrote:So your platform is based on the nerf bat then?
That's such an awful way to put it. It's more like the flaming cross of imbalance |
Fon Revedhort
Monks of War DarkSide.
470
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Posted - 2012.02.14 21:22:00 -
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TFirish3 wrote:So your platform is based on the nerf bat then? My platform is based on justice and appropriateness. If it's a nerf here and there, I'm fine with it. Some stuff is to be boosted. It's always a matter of choosing the shortest path. \o/ |
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Jinli mei
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
82
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:29:00 -
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Dear Mr Fon Revedhort,
I would like to ask if you would support my new initiative to have players of unique and different backgrounds be identified with spaceflair in game to promote diversity of the eve universe. I think it would add to the tolerance of different communities in the game and allow people a chance to recruit those who are not the same.
What do you think, mr. spaceman?
Jinli mei, Former Tolerance Director of TEST |
Faife
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
55
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:33:00 -
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Jinli mei wrote:Dear Mr Fon Revedhort,
I would like to ask if you would support my new initiative to have players of unique and different backgrounds be identified with spaceflair in game to promote diversity of the eve universe. I think it would add to the tolerance of different communities in the game and allow people a chance to recruit those who are not the same.
What do you think, mr. spaceman?
Jinli mei, Former Tolerance Director of TEST
This is a good idea. The flair would let people find people of common heritage, and through free-association let them have a better game experience, and a more closer knit atmosphere, through more homogenous groups. |
Pseudo Ucksth
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
87
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:34:00 -
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Jinli mei wrote:Former Tolerance Director of TEST
:colbert:
OH guys also we could make the Ethnic Relations skill in Corp Management apply to this as well!
Each new level of the skill trained teaches you more about Racial Tolerance and how to be more accepting of your fellow man, regardless of race and creed.
MLK would be proud of me :sun: |
Dr Kang
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
121
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Posted - 2012.02.14 22:54:00 -
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Jinli mei wrote:Dear Mr Fon Revedhort,
I would like to ask if you would support my new initiative to have players of unique and different backgrounds be identified with spaceflair in game to promote diversity of the eve universe. I think it would add to the tolerance of different communities in the game and allow people a chance to recruit those who are not the same.
What do you think, mr. spaceman?
Jinli mei, Former Tolerance Director of TEST
Guten Tag. Ich glaube fest daran, dass die Menschen aus den unterschiedlichsten Hintergrund sollte besonderen Abzeichen zu tragen. Auf diese Weise k+¦nnen wir feiern die Vielfalt der Eve.
M+¦chte jemand eine Auff++hrung von "The Producers" mit mir zu besuchen? |
Sarmatiko
531
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:00:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: You posted, without being prompted, your support of David Duke - a Klansman, for those of you who don't live in Freedomland - and mouthed off about 'racial realism'.
This isn't 'RL politics', this is 'You are now in the same class of candidate as Xenuria and that Objectivist guy' - a damaged human being who vomits forth ideas that deserve nothing but scorn, while rationalizing the condemnation of society as a twisted badge of honor.
Your views are wretched.
The Mittani wrote: The CSM isn't CCP's cop, any more than an alliance leader is an unpaid GM. The playerbase of eve is almost comically racist and misogynistic, from an American perspective. In Europe it's apparently common and uncontroversial to speak openly of 'Jews', not to mention the Scandinavian lack of sensitivity on Things Racial. Because EVE is an international game you end up with a lot of delicate sensibilities being rubbed the wrong way.
Example: Americans think nothing of slagging on Germans for that whole World War 2 thing, but ~how dare~ you mention Germany in front of a German EVE player. An American will get offended at a racist joke that at Dutchman won't even blink at, between Zwarte Piet and the fact that TurboNegro is literally a popular metal band, but god forbid that you criticize every American's sovereign right to invade and bomb whoever the hell we feel like while stockpiling personal arms caches and making little pillow fortresses out of Bibles.
The point, dear NPC alt, is that everyone in this game is basically a jerk and is going to get butthurt about something. It's a culture-clash thing, not a CSM issue.
Quoting for non-double-standard opinion Fon will get russian votes one way or another because as you say there is always "culture-clash thing" and mostly nobody cares about his RL positions. Actually anyone will do better than Mittani's hand puppet UAxDeath as russian candidate. Why someone should vote for this slacker (Death) again if one can vote for Mittani directly with same result. |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
100
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:09:00 -
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Quoted from: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=442247#post442247
Fon Revedhort wrote:Whatever.
I've never had an intention of pleasing everyone on the globe, especially if they don't even belong to my race - which is something I suspect for your case.
Anyway, I do hope CCP retains some sanity and will follow my logic and the things I say instead of succumbing to 'let's make everyone equal' claims.
In response to:
Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote:i have actually studied Duke and his campaign for the LA Senate seat. Your arguement is pitiful and those of us in the political science field that have studied realist theory and/or subscribe to it, would say you are a very skewed individual who is in fact very racist.
I think the quote speaks for itself. His ability to determine race via typed words is pretty awesome, though. Kudos.
Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:15:00 -
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Vordak Kallager wrote:Quoted from: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=442247#post442247Fon Revedhort wrote:Whatever.
I've never had an intention of pleasing everyone on the globe, especially if they don't even belong to my race - which is something I suspect for your case.
Anyway, I do hope CCP retains some sanity and will follow my logic and the things I say instead of succumbing to 'let's make everyone equal' claims. In response to: Zarak1 Kenpach1 wrote:i have actually studied Duke and his campaign for the LA Senate seat. Your arguement is pitiful and those of us in the political science field that have studied realist theory and/or subscribe to it, would say you are a very skewed individual who is in fact very racist. I think the quote speaks for itself. His ability to determine race via typed words is pretty awesome, though. Kudos.
White people type like this. Black people type like this. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:19:00 -
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Sarmatiko wrote: Fon will get russian votes one way or another because as you say there is always "culture-clash thing" and mostly nobody cares about his RL positions.
Good, good, put all your support behind someone that nobody else on the council will want to work with. |
Sarmatiko
531
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:29:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Good, good, put all your support behind someone that nobody else on the council will want to work with. Actually it's even better. I cant imagine Fon and Mittens rubbing each other in Blue Lagoon, discussing CSM things. |
digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
40
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Posted - 2012.02.14 23:42:00 -
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Dear Mr. David Duke aka Fon Raverwhatever,
I understand that you are running for the CSM. I applaud your grand efforts as I have always thought four playable races was far too many. To be honest, I have played a Minmatar character since 2003 and I'm extremely tired of role-playing a undernourished underclass that exists on space welfare. I'm sure you have grand ideas of wiping out the Minmatars since they tend to be people of color and directly opposed to your worldview.
Please let me know when you are chairman so that I can roleplay a easybake oven in your honor. I'm also willing to reenact the Trail of Tears for you, as I have much knowledge of American genocides. Even better, it would add to the realism of the experience if you could add the following items and skills:
1. Genocide 2. Race Discrimination (this could be a PVE skill) 3. Tech I Oven 4. Tech II Oven 5. Enslavement Skill 6. Gas Chamber I (must be anchored at POS) 7. Gas Chamber II (must be anchored at POS) 8. Adverse Possession Skill 9. Horns for Spaceship with the Dixie theme 10. "Klan Kovers" for the Aurum store
Thank you for your time and I look forward to seeing your very radical views expressed on the Council of Stellar Management.
Regards,
Digi |
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