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The Mattius
Enigma Technologies
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Posted - 2012.02.10 22:21:00 -
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Actually i am leaving Eve after playing for almost 8 years, no rage quit, not particularly bitter either. Simply i have done it all, over several characters and practically everyone i started out with left ages ago and i find myself logging in less and less.
I don't intend to return, and would rather someone else had the benefit of the ISK in my wallet than it gathering dust on a dormant character. I have either lost, given away or just can't be bothered to collect all my stuff together, but have the sum of 20 Billion ISK to give to away to someone who could make use of it.
What do i have to do to get it i hear you ask?
Simply, i would like to hear how it would change the way you play Eve (hopefully for the better). Ideas like i would buy expensive ships and fly them through 0.0 are unlikely to get you far, i'm looking for orginal ideas on how you would use this ISK.
Thats it, no other conditions and this offer is open to anyone, one day old characters to beta (and probably bitter) vets
TM
N.B. I have posted this here as i have spent most of my time for the last year or two hanging about in MD. Also, please note only replies to this post here will be considered, i have no plans to log on much so will not be reading Eve mail. I will leave the topic open for 1 week, and then decide who i would like to have the ISK which will be then sent to them.
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David Forge
Forge Enterprises
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Posted - 2012.02.10 22:27:00 -
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It would be helpful in that I could skip over several initial stepping stones on my course to total domination of New Eden. That said, Vaerah Vahrokha's Emergency Relief Initiative is probably the truly best thing you could do with the ISK. |
Scion Lex
Obsidian Incorporated
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Posted - 2012.02.10 22:40:00 -
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I would like to create more oppertunities for new players to get involved in the market. I currently do this by putting out reasonable courier contracts and paying out members of my corp for raw PI. What I have come to find is that most of the corps I have been in, including ones I have personally formed, can't grow fast enough to retain its members. I would like to create an alliance built around the idea of keeping new players both busy and protected, but im in no position to do so atm. With the funding I can create projects that not only are profitable for myself, but give others a chance to get involved and learn from these projects. EVE needs to continue to encourage new players to stay. Your years of work could contribute to that.
In addition I find it hard to beleive that you are NEVER comming back. I would invest your funds in POS fuels and other commodities that would hold value. If you changed your mind you wouldn't come back totally empty handed. I understand you are done, but you have to consider the possiblity of your return....I certainly would.
I would perfer not to go into too much detail as this is a public forum. Yet, my point is there are people who could really use it and people who will cause havoc with it. There are those who have enough power and those who know what to do with what they have. I hope you choose wisely. |
Klown Walk
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Posted - 2012.02.10 22:55:00 -
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I would invest some of it and spend the rest on a t3 gang link alt and ships for roams with my friends. |
Kalli Rahl
The Riot Formation Get Off My Lawn
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Posted - 2012.02.10 22:58:00 -
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Hi there,
I would use the Isk to fund my plans to try and seed my local null hub with t2 modules through invention.
I currently have some capital but nothing on the scale needed. I would use the isk to put up multiple POS's from which the mutliple toons i have access to will copy blueprints, invention etc. The isk will also be used to purchase BPO to copy from as i currently only posses some of the nessecary ones required.
The isk made from the selling of products on the market would then be put back to fuel the POS's and put up more.
In addition to this depending on how much you helped me with my venture, I would consider purchasing a Jump freighter to aid in bringing materials down so there is no strenuous back and fourth journeys to empire in haulers/ t1 freighters.
Thankyou for taking the time to read this, If you have any further questions please do get in contract with me.
I look forward to your response.
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Johann Ohneland
Rheinland Security
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:01:00 -
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mhm...if i would you, i would go to jita and try to give it away via "i double"....just to have the scam one time be not a scam... :) |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:14:00 -
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David Forge wrote:It would be helpful in that I could skip over several initial stepping stones on my course to total domination of New Eden. That said, Vaerah Vahrokha's Emergency Relief Initiative is probably the truly best thing you could do with the ISK.
Since I am the manager of said Emergency Relief Initiative I am humanly biased into suggesting it.
But also, since I don't want to sound like an opportunist, feel free to send:
1) ISK to Chribba with "Donation to VAERT Sister Fund"
2) EvE-mail to Chribba about this thread
3) Once done please notify me here or in game so that I may add the donation both to the Public Donors list and the balance sheet. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
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Cheese Nippels
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:17:00 -
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i would purchase large quantities of t1 frigates and basic fittings and sell them cheaply to rookies in rookie systems in order to encourage more people to play eve (something like 100isk apiece, test server style). I would also like to start up a business running this and collect donations and such in order to keep going, maybe start my own alliance eve university style, except not horrible. |
Airmen Andrew
The boring corp
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:21:00 -
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With that type of ISK I would go and use it to restart the faction wars on a grand scale. Offer training to all 4 militas and a ship supply stash to hep bring back the PVP between them. Yes i know not very detials but hey we need some really faction war action so i figured i would give it a go and post this up. |
wolftin21
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:22:00 -
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Well mate I would use the isk to help out my corp mates that dont really have the skills points to make money to pay for pvp ships out here in 0.0, why, because I was at the time where i needed help and I received help for other players ther than my corp. So if I was to get the isk, I would return the favor and help out others that need the isk to make their game play in eve more better off than to struggle with the game and not be fun at all. We all know that when first starting off playing its hard to make isk other than to do lots of lvl 1 mission or go out and mine for hours and hours to make some kind of money. Well mate I wish you well out in the RL and I hope for the best for you.
farewell friend
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Ralington
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:24:00 -
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One thing that has always troubled me with EVE is the incredibly steep learning curve. As a veteran myself (through several different characters) the spirit of EVE is what captured me when I was first beta testing it. Since those days EVE has grown a lot and moved on from the day when owning an Apocalypse battleship was highly respected.
I often see in local chat reports of this person being ganked, that person being ganked and how much they have lost due to mistakes they have made through not having either enough experience of simply not knowing how to play the game safely.
I have seen new players leave because EVE is difficult to support financially during the first stages of character training and whilst they are grinding level 1 agents in the hope of earning meager amounts of isk.
Please, don't get me wrong, I agree that if EVE were to be made too easy from the outset then everyone would progress far too quickly and goals would be reached in rapid time. This is not what I am thinknig about.
My idea if I had the isk would be to set up a "New Player Compensation Scheme". I would not ask for anything before players were elligible for this scheme and at no time would any repayment be expected. I would simply offer those players that have been affected by the harsh reality that EVE is not a friendly place and have lost something that may of been of value to them.
For example, that miner that just lost his Hulk from Hulkageddon, that mission runner that just lost his mission objective due to thieves and ninja salvagers, that shuttle that was carrying a PLEX that just got ganked outside Jita or Niarja because they were on autopilot. All too often new players give up thinking that they simply are not good enough to play the game.
I would like to help these new players in an effort to give them some hope that all is not lost, there is compassion within the game. There is someone they can turn to instead of being laughed at in Local Chat because they are a "Noob".
Although it may not be an idea that would be on a huge scale, the thought that I could give cookies to those pilots that indeed need them would make me all warm and fuzzy inside.
Some could call it carebear loving, I dont mind, flamers flame. Sometimes the carebears need loving in other areas |
seg segtorio
Project 5 Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:25:00 -
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ouch are u shure, eve is en ever expanding game, but i would like to tell my corpie that its not a troll, lol i think i would like to expand my corp, and build more stations, bring more players to the enjoyment of null.
lol good luck with this. the lotto that has no strings. some eve player will be ever so happy |
A3sir
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:28:00 -
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As someone who has tried many things in the world of New Eden, I would love the opportunity to give back. Using these funds as a start-up, I would like to throw my production into overdrive. The main goal at the end of this drive, is to have my corpmates and alliancemates well stocked with free ships provided from within. I would like to help out my fellow miners by offering subsidies and bonuses for returns on their investments of time and effort. Really, the industrial sector of large alliances are the unsung heroes, and I would like to help them get their dues. Funds would be used to fuel towers, replace mining ships, provide incentives to miners/producers, and buy minerals at prices above market value.
A program such as this has the ability to draw in those that have skills which go unused, and infuses industrial programs with goals and people. It literally cycles throughout the rest of an alliance by kickstarting growth at the roots. With a strong industrial core, the rest of the branch members may bear fruit in whatever their aims are.
Thank you for your consideration. |
Amon Tyr
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:57:00 -
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LOL 1st time quitting in 8 years? Must be a record or something.
Oh, and you'll be back. |
GhostRider3009
masih-al-dajjaal
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:59:00 -
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As others have already mentioned in their posts, this game has a steep and sometimes brutal learned curve. I started with my first character in June 2009, which I guess means I have enough knowledge about eve to be dangerous, but not enough time in game to be a vet. I still remember my first trip into low sec blindly following a mission, it lasted approximately 2 minutes. My first destroyer, a Catalyst, something which I had worked hard to get, destroyed in a blink of an eye by Caldari Navy Trauma Torpedos fired from a Manticore. That was 954days, 2 hours, 29 minutes and 50 seconds ago, I have lost other ships since and will no doubt loose more in the future.
The most useful thing I found in this game was a friendly corp, who were always ready to help, not just with isk, but with advice on a whole range of subjects, who made available ships and modules, implants and skill books, who helped me develope a training plan for what I wanted to do in the game.
I have 2 goals should I be lucky enough to recive the 20billion isk, firstly to repay my former corp makes, I won't mentioned them here but if they are reading they know who they are. Secondly, to create a corp who's goal it is to educate those new to New Eden, in all those things that make this game enjoyable to me today. I don't want to create another eve University, I want to create a environment where people feel free to make supid mistakes and not be laughed at, where ships are replaced modules made availble, new players to be helped with training, isk or whatever they need to get into this game, and get the enjoyment out of it that I do.
(I should have possibly written this when I had had slightly less to drink) |
Angsty Teenager
Sinister Elite
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:20:00 -
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ITT: People lying
It makes me sick.
Whoever gets the 20bil (or not since OP is lying also), please spend it on overpriced mods and come fight me. |
A3sir
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:31:00 -
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Angsty Teenager wrote:ITT: People lying
It makes me sick.
Whoever gets the 20bil (or not since OP is lying also), please spend it on overpriced mods and come fight me.
No. Funds such as these should not, and will not be squandered for such low-brow and temporary joy. Opportunities such as this don't generally come around often, and I personally would like to make sure the effects are quite vast in scope; yet focused enough that a measurable shift can be observed. |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:50:00 -
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I would wonder about the troll factor of this thread, but since the char is actually that old, and not in goonswarm, I guess it might be true.
In any case, I do not need it. I'd do probably the same thing you are now doing with it, leave it to rot somewhere in a wallet. Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Piugattuk
Boa Innovations Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2012.02.11 00:59:00 -
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I don't want the 20 bil, but about 1.5 bil should cover skill books and New BPC'S to produce, produce, produce, even as odd as it seems I am happy making and selling items at a reasonable cost, and if you got a Nighthawk laying about it be nice to replace my lost one. Thanks for the consideration. |
Gregory Brunswick
Flashpoint Industries The ROC
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Posted - 2012.02.11 01:40:00 -
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I suggest you either give the isk to Eve University to help out new players.
Otherwise give it to me and I will donate some to Eve University and with the rest mostly donate it to those who seems to be genuinely in need like someone who just got his hulk ganked, for whom I'd just buy one and send it to him.
In addition I'll probably hold small little events with isk prizes, or donate to these type of events. |
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Killdu
New Eden Renegades
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Posted - 2012.02.11 02:14:00 -
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Hey man, I just wanted to say I'm sorry you are quitting the game. I know that one day I'll make do the same and I hope to go out the way you are.
I don't like begging so anything like this makes me feel weird. But I've been starting a new journey in eve to try new things and I'm picking up trading and hope to get a nice income from it. Extra isk would make my adventure a bit nicer because I am a student with good grades and in maintain that I don't get much time to grind isk. My dream ship isn't a super but a vindicator fit to Garmon standards.
Way to pull out strong and good wishes to your adventures elsewhere. |
Xylem Viliana
Dust Bunnies Emergent Avionics
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Posted - 2012.02.11 02:18:00 -
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Id buy tier 3 bc bpos and build some of each racial and distribute at cost (depending on amount given that might be free) to suicide gankers around jita or amarr and wait to see whether there are a few extras on the market or some wrecks when i slip out |
Implying Implications
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
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Posted - 2012.02.11 02:40:00 -
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i'd like to invest. 1b isk sent |
Sevastian Liao
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.11 03:36:00 -
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I was helped into EVE by friends from this game:
http://www.pardus.at/
What happened was that I asked for, and got a 60 day trial from another player, got a PLEX loan from yet another player to activate the account, and starting specializing in mining for some start up capital to start market trading. Here's the thread (you'll need to sign up for an account to be able to view it, it's quick and free though):
http://forum.pardus.at/index.php?showtopic=56307&view=findpost&p=1141834
If you'd just like the post in question, here it is:
Quote:I recently just got into EVE as well, and loving the game so far. Big thanks to Masterchief for bringing my attention to the game and the 60 day trial offer, as well as providing help and advice.
I've set a goal for myself to earn enough ISK to sustain my gaming, ensuring that I have enough PLEX to continue playing. Long term, I'm aiming to move in the industrialist direction. Currently i'm averaging 800k-1m an hour through jetcan mining, using a combination of a mining - specialized frigate + a stripped down, expanded cargohold destroyer to serve as a cargo hauler (The trial restrictions include not being able to use ships with larger cargoholds). However, because I have to move stuff around in itty - bitty amounts, it further compounds the already high risk of jetcan mining by adding more time to the period where the entire operation is vulnerable to anyone sweeping in and running off with the ore, not to mention the sheer inefficiency of trucking stuff around in a destroyer. I did plan to upgrade to a stripped - down cruiser, but it's still pretty much a marginal improvement.
Therefore, I'd like to ask for a loan from any of the Pardus players playing EVE, for 450 million ISK, in order to get my first PLEX and lift the trial restrictions off my account, mainly in order to be able to activate my industrial ships (I already received two from the introductory missions). I would repay the loan with 500 milllion ISK in 3 month's time. A few points to note:
1) I cannot offer much more than my word at present, unless you have an idea for collateral 2) That I worked out a system to earn a million an hour with the current heavy restrictions on money - making for trial accounts hopefully proves that I'm commited to doing this well 3) If I am unable to repay you at the end of the period, I will commit to upgrading my account to continue playing, at least until I have repaid your loan in full. Again, however, I have nothing to offer but my word. 4) I am not unable to pay for the game, however I feel that doing that takes away a lot of the challenge (and hence, fun) of playing such games. I've pretty much done the same in many other P2W MMORPGs, paying my way through the game through effort in the game, with a bit of business savvy.
Please PM my Orion character if you're interested. And thanks for reading.
2 months later, I've paid off my loan, gotten almost all the skills needed to specialize in mining, already fully self sufficient, and now working on moving into manufacturing/larger scale trading/investing. A few weeks ago or so, wanting to give back to the community that helped me into this great game I made the following offering:
http://forum.pardus.at/index.php?showtopic=56924&view=findpost&p=1150264
Again, here's the relevant post:
Quote:So, as the title says I just found that I have one 60-day trial code as a Christmas gift courtesy of CCP, the company that develops and runs EVE Online. Since I managed to get into the game on the generosity of a couple other players to begin with, I'd like to help out another player who's really interested in getting in on the game.
However, I would like it to be someone who's really interested to get into EVE long term, not using the code just to lol around checking out the universe with no clear goal in mind. As such, I'm offering the code along with the same conditions that I had to work with in order to become self - sustaining in the EVE unicerse.
Resources provided: 1) 60 day trial code - Trial time is added onto your game time once you activate your account 2) In - game PLEX (30-day game time) loan - To activate your account and unlock a lot of the higher - end features 3) Equipment I no longer use, assuming you're going for the same mining/industrialist direction I did
Conditions: 1) Will sign up for the 14-day free trial first, and figure out what path you intend to take, towards what goal. 2) Will repay 500m ISK at the end of the 3 months at the latest - Prices for PLEX are currently somewhere in the range of 450m - 500m 3) Will provide me with a weekly short update of your progress (Listing assets, major expenditures, brief summary of goals).
4) Willing to back up your obligation by confirming it here on the Pardus forums
So, in essence should I get the ISK I'll be using it to fund and expand further on a newbie transition programme that I've already started for another gaming community, using my own time and my own resources up till now. As shown, I am not interested in helping players who just want to waste my ISK "checking out" the universe during their trial, only to /quitgame later. I'm also disinterested in using any donation to fund my own in-game activities of any stripe, since i'm having fun earning ISK to further my goals, through my own endeavours. Just doing my part to give back to the community that spawned me, so to speak, while helping newbies that have high potential into EVE. o7 |
Mephistocles
Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium
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Posted - 2012.02.11 03:38:00 -
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IMO... Don't give it to an individual. There is no way to wade through the BS to see who is sincere and who is giving you a line. If/when I retire, my estate is going to my corp since I _know_ it would be put to good use. If that wasn't my situation I'd give it to Eve University.
Always sad to see vets go. I've taken my breaks, but always knew I'd come back. You should at least leave yourself the option and not come back completely destitute. |
WiseAcre
AntiKythera Machina
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Posted - 2012.02.11 04:15:00 -
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Magnanimity is such a rare thing in a galactic sandbox like EVE. I think that the 20 billion would be well spent rewarding those that have gone above and beyond in order to enrich the experience for others.
As others here have mentioned EVE University is a worthy and deserving cause.
Also, in my humble opinion, the following Corporations or individuals have developed services or programs that greatly enhance the EVE experience:
Grismar for the eve wiki: http://eve.grismar.net/wikka.php?wakka=WikiHome
Gripen for the continued support of EFT: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24359
Estel Arador Corp Services for the generous jump clone service that they provide: http://community.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=939710
Mr M for the EVE Tribune and EVEGeek: http://evegeek.com/ and http://www.eve-tribune.com/
If you, The Mattius, chose to endow me with the ISK, the previous listed individuals and corporations would benefit by a 5 billion ISK donation each. Of course, you could cut out the middle man and reward them yourself!
It should be noted that I have no affiliation with any on the list other than considering Mr M a friend. |
Ore Mut
Isometric Robot
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Posted - 2012.02.11 04:24:00 -
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I'd plex my account and those of my friends in real life. Many of them who like eve but have famlies and cant justify spending money on an online game.
Iwould not just change my game experience but also bring people into the community that would not otherwise be here.
Simply put, I'd give most of it away.
Edit: I would also log the experience on a public website of how the isk has benefited myself and these new players. |
Fortune Foru
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.11 05:07:00 -
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I won't BS you and pretend to do some good deed or charity work.
Simply put I would use your isk to finally get some expensive ships and pew pew with them like I always wanted but could never afford. Due to work, RL (kids), sick parents, agro wife, missioning and grinding is tough. Never had that kind of isk before.
I would probably blow it all on stupid fun. Then I would probably retire like you because that would be my pinacle.
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Tesla Valhalla
Taurus Quantum Jumpclone Services Taurus Quantum Dynamics
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Posted - 2012.02.11 05:41:00 -
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Some time ago, some friends and I looked into starting a series of races, find-and-seek, and other games for both existing and new players here in Eve. These are designed to be fun and entertaining, and to keep folks flying. The idea never got much past our alliance, however, due to lack of funds for advertising and prizes
Simply put, we are trying to make Eve a more entertaining place for all with a variety of options. For example:
1. Races (high, low, null, mixed) in a variety of ships or classes
2. Hide and seek (i.e. scan down and kill the target)
3. WH hunt - find the specific WH
4. Frigate fights and similar small gang engagements
5. Daredevil - (a) auto-pilot through low/null, (b) gate camp jumping or crashing, (c) pilot a ridiculous ship such as a T1 indy through a hostile area, (d) etc
These are just some example of things my buddies and I do all the time. My goal is to bring this to the greater Eve community through a series of sponsored events and ultimately corp / alliance involvement.
I would use the ISK to fund prizes, advertise, solicit sponsors, etc. |
Draco Warlo
Outer Rim Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.11 05:46:00 -
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Hi! Ironically, I was looking at the MD forum and thinking about posting a bond proposal when I saw this post.
I am an up and coming T3 manufacturer. I have other accounts who have also done just about everything in Eve and have decided to dedicate this player to providing cheap advanced ships and fittings to other up and coming players. Though I feel you need to work hard to earn access to advanced ships, I also know that making them affordable and reasonable benefits everyone
To keep it short and sweet, I would use the funds to expand my T3 manufacturing capabilities and provide cheap T3s for as many as I can
- Draco |
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