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Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:41:00 -
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Chapter 1: Explanation of Loan
I am currently seeking funding funds to expand my business venture.
Bond Amount: 1.5 Billion Total Shares: 1500+ [See Chapter 10] Price / Share: 1 Million Isk Max Shares: 250 [I want several investors to build my credit with the community as a whole] Duration: 4 months [Final payoff June 1st & 2nd] Interest: 7% Shares Availability: Once posted until Start Date Start Date: Feb 1st, 2008 [00:00 Evetime]
Chapter 2: Business Venture
My main source of income is from trading on the market. Basically I have a list of items that I buy low and then either sell high, or reprocess into minerals for resale.
Currently my average profit margin on the items I buy / sell range from 50-125%. I have yet to make a sale that lost money û with the market fluctuations, I just wait a day or 2 and the price comes back up into the profitable range again.
Chapter 3: Explanation of Loan use
1 Billion -> Purchase of a Charon 100 Million -> Purchase of Advanced Spaceship Command and Caldari Freighter skillbooks [Will have both learned within 2 hours so as to be able to fly the Charon] 400 Million -> General cash infusion into my business to increase rate of purchases
Chapter 4: Assets
I am a new player (Started first week in October 2007) and have no real assets. Currently I have 216 Million (140 Million personal and 76 Million CorpmatesÆ) Isk invested into my business venture which will be rolled back into the fund including profits made for January (at least on my 140 Million û I cannot say for other investors).
The only thing I currently have of tangable value would be a smattering of T1 ships (largest is a Drake) and equipment, 200 Shares of HUNSIÆs newest IPO and my personal cash.
Chapter 5: Risks
My business venture is a risk û but then isnÆt life ? The biggest risks in this venture are as follows:
1.Can I make enough per month to pay the interest owed? -> See Exit Strategy: Failed Plan 2.Can I make enough by the end to repay the loan? -> See Exit Strategy: End Plan Failure 3.Will my markets crash and screw us all over? -> Lets just say if my simple markets crash, then chances are the entire Eve Economy will crash and if that happens my 1.5 Billion will be the least of everyoneÆs concerns 4.Am I a scammer? -> Of course not û but then a scammer would say that. All I can say is look at my history in the game (what there is), speak to me in-game, ask questions and judge for yourself.
Chapter 6: Disclosure
My main character is Viilaa û who is the CEO of OH Corp. As I stated before I am relatively new to the game û started in Oct 2007 û but have been busy in the game running missions, courier contracts, trading, etcà I have no real powerful friends in the game to vouch for me.
Alts: Xargun [Research Alt], Tirabi [will be pilot of Freighter]
Both Viilaa and Tirabi have been API verified on ineve.net û have a look.
Chapter 7: Interest Payment Plan
I plan on paying all interest due on the 1st and 2nd of each month. If I cannot do so for whatever reason I will notify all shareholders immediately. If you have not been paid by the 3rd, please notify me directly in game incase of a mistake on my part.
Chapter 8: Exit Strategy
Should I fail at making enough cash to pay the interest during any month, I will personally pay that monthÆs interest out of my own cash. Should this happen 2 months in a row I will consider it a Failed Plan and conduct accordingly.
I plan on stopping all trading on May 26th, 2008 in order to liquidate all assets (except the Charon) for anticipated loan payoff on June 1st & 2nd. Should funds come up short for loan payoff I will consider it an End Plan Failure and conduct accordingly.
Failed Plan
All Plan assets (including Charon) will be sold and all cash split between investors. You will at minimum get 67% of your investment returned (due to Charon value).
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Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 08:42:00 -
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End Plan Failure
2 options for the shareholders to pick from:
1.Profit has been going good û just not enough to pay off the loan on time. I will extend the loan by 1 month and increase that monthÆs interest rate by 2% for the inconvenience 2.Sell off the Charon to payback the loan immediately
This will be a vote by the shareholders.
Chapter 9: Share Purchases
If interested in purchasing shares please send the isk to Viilaa as well as an evemail stating your purchase. If you wish to reserve shares then please post on the forum and I will hold reserves for 24 hours [no reserves permitted after January 29th] so you have enough time to get online and send isk.
If I sell out û any extra money will be returned to the sender. If I fail to sell out the entire Loan û all funds will be returned to senders
Any isk amounts received not in 1 Million isk amounts will be returned.
Chapter 10: Other
As I am currently running my project as an in-Corp only venture, and it would be rude to not allow my current investors to roll-over their money (and profits) into this Project. Since we do not know how much they will have to roll-over I cannot predict how many shares to set aside for them so I will not set aside any. I will simply offer the 1500 shares to the public and then offer private shares to my current investors up to their total investment at the end of January [theoretically around 500 shares max]. Any and all funds raised this way will be put into the general operating money and the total shares sold / issued will be declared sometime Feb 1st û 3rd.
Project updates will be made monthly when interest is paid out via evemail to investors as well as posted on the forums a few days later.
Chapter 11: Questions?
If you have any actual questions (and not just spam / flames) please post here or contact me ingame.
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Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:26:00 -
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I'm considering taking a gamble on this. Please reserve me 250m pending further examination.
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles Zzz
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:32:00 -
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Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 23/01/2008 09:33:41 Would you be prepared to disclose a full API key to a single trusted third party so that they can verify that you've had a decent level of success in your trading activities up to now? They wouldn't step on your toes with the information gained, of course. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats |
Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:47:00 -
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Originally by: Bad Bobby I'm considering taking a gamble on this. Please reserve me 250m pending further examination.
Reserved
Viilaa
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Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Viilaa on 23/01/2008 09:54:25
Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro Edited by: Kazuo Ishiguro on 23/01/2008 09:33:41 Would you be prepared to disclose a full API key to a single trusted third party so that they can verify that you've had a decent level of success in your trading activities up to now? They wouldn't step on your toes with the information gained, of course.
If this was the only way to get the investors I need then yes. I started trading on the market in December and took the initial 126 Million investment and doubled it. I have screenshots of my Journal for the month of December (Links below - if I did it right) if these will suffice.
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Viilaa
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.23 09:58:00 -
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Eh... seems like more of the same ol', same ol' here. Another shooting for the FOTM, though maybe just a bit better written than most. 7% interest... not so low that some people won't immediately write it off, not so high that it screams scam.
Gotta figure 1.5b seems like a lot for someone who's only made 1/10th that in their EVE career.
Could be a legit attempt just made at a bad time. But there's been more than quite a few of these exclamation points looking for 1-2b in the past month, and I don't see this as any different.
Maybe a full API key disclosure will show that maybe he does have a head on his shoulders, but as it stands, I don't find myself with the energy or interest anymore to even bother reading another Pointy thread. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |
Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:08:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Eh... seems like more of the same ol', same ol' here. Another shooting for the FOTM, though maybe just a bit better written than most. 7% interest... not so low that some people won't immediately write it off, not so high that it screams scam.
Gotta figure 1.5b seems like a lot for someone who's only made 1/10th that in their EVE career.
Could be a legit attempt just made at a bad time. But there's been more than quite a few of these exclamation points looking for 1-2b in the past month, and I don't see this as any different.
Maybe a full API key disclosure will show that maybe he does have a head on his shoulders, but as it stands, I don't find myself with the energy or interest anymore to even bother reading another Pointy thread.
I understand your feelings on this and there has been a rash of these 'small' bonds / loans. Not sure if I posted my initial interest before the rush started or not - but like I said if I must have a Full API then I must. Although I'm not sure who you guys would trust to take a peek [besides Ricdic].
Viilaa
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Alkarz
Minmatar Research Iniative
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:15:00 -
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i'd be willing to throw 250m into this depending on the out come of a API audit on your buisness so far
Maybe a few words from your initial investors, someone with a little more history than you ingame, surley its in there interest that you receive further backing.
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Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Alkarz i'd be willing to throw 250m into this depending on the out come of a API audit on your buisness so far
Who would volunteer to do this (that you guys will trust) and that isn't busy with their own projects ?
Originally by: Alkarz Maybe a few words from your initial investors, someone with a little more history than you ingame, surley its in there interest that you receive further backing.
Reserved - unfortunately all of my current investors have less gametime than I do. I will speak to them and see if I can convince them to make a post for what its worth.
Viilaa
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Astorothe
Aperture Science Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:16:00 -
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Hi Viilaa,
I'd like to reserve 100m please - I really enjoy investing in these smaller ventures.
Regards,
Ze logs show NOTHING! ~ Eve Corp and Fansite Web design, development and hosting services
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Shannar'a
Enterprise Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:19:00 -
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reserve 200m please
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Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Viilaa
Originally by: Alkarz i'd be willing to throw 250m into this depending on the out come of a API audit on your buisness so far
Who would volunteer to do this (that you guys will trust) and that isn't busy with their own projects ?
Originally by: Alkarz Maybe a few words from your initial investors, someone with a little more history than you ingame, surley its in there interest that you receive further backing.
Reserved - unfortunately all of my current investors have less gametime than I do. I will speak to them and see if I can convince them to make a post for what its worth.
Viilaa
In case Viilaa agrees i can be a thrusted 3rd party (and no one else wants the job) to do the API key checking, report on his operations (maintaining ofc the sigil of information and of the API itself, which can always be changed) i can do it.
As for any insider information in trading, HUNSI does not deal in trading expect for the placement of t2 mods/ship in the markets and those we have already identified the spots that better suit our need, thus we would have nothing to gain from any knowledge.
The offer stands in case its needed/acepted.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2008.01.23 11:41:00 -
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Quote:
In case Viilaa agrees i can be a thrusted 3rd party
LMFAO. Sorry. Carry on
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:13:00 -
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Given your willingness to at least co-operate, I'll reserve a small 50m right now for giggles, pending further investigation into you.
I do like to see newer people get out there and make something for themselves. This is a horrendously bad time to try something like this, but, based on your willingness to co-operate with any prudent research into you, I'd be willing to give it a small go. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |
Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:15:00 -
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Edited by: Assens Letta on 23/01/2008 12:15:27
Originally by: Kylar Renpurs
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In case Viilaa agrees i can be a thrusted 3rd party
LMFAO. Sorry. Carry on
sry what ?
1. i did ask the OP not you.
2. you are free to make a statement, its a free....web.
3. are you implying i am not trusted (and by whom...u ? comunity in general? by viilaa? )? or that i am simply not enough credentialized to do it ?
on point 3 i would suggest you make yourself clearer, i am for any kind of criticism (altough it helps if its a constructive critic) but you sir only seem to be ready to make a laugh (so that the otehr bystanders actually see you laugh) and not a point (or at least say what point is that u want to make).
I apologize to the OP for this post as it is not directly related to this subject at hand.
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Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: Assens Letta 3. are you implying i am not trusted (and by whom...u ? comunity in general? by viilaa? )? or that i am simply not enough credentialized to do it ?
I think he was more laughing at the typo. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |
Bad Bobby
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Posted - 2008.01.23 12:44:00 -
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Remain calm. He was just registering his amusement that you were putting yourself forward to be "thrusted".
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Feyloan
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Feyloan on 23/01/2008 13:04:47 Hehe....yes, very nice typo....
Was going to offer myself, due to Apex seemingly falling completely through, but if someone else wishes to do this, then be my guest
Edit: 850 mill reserved to far in thread, I will also jump on board to the tune of 50 mill, making total so far 900
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Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Assens Letta
In case Viilaa agrees i can be a thrusted 3rd party (and no one else wants the job) to do the API key checking, report on his operations (maintaining ofc the sigil of information and of the API itself, which can always be changed) i can do it.
Sounds fine to me Assens provided people are fine with you. Also, I have never messed with the Full API - what does that give you access to besides my wallet journals / transactions ? And how do you check it - 3rd party software ?
Originally by: Assens Letta
As for any insider information in trading, HUNSI does not deal in trading expect for the placement of t2 mods/ship in the markets and those we have already identified the spots that better suit our need, thus we would have nothing to gain from any knowledge.
The offer stands in case its needed/acepted.
I am a long way from T2 trading so I am not concerned. I am sure how I make my money has been done by lots of other traders who have moved onward to bigger markets - thus allowing me to make my money before I leave it to another new player.
Viilaa
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Viilaa
Caldari OH Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:25:00 -
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Share Update
Shares Sold: 50 Shares Reserved: 850 Shares Left: 600
Reserve List:
Bad Bobby - 250 Alkarz - 250 Astorothe - 100 Shannar'a - 200 Minerva Vulcan - 50
Viilaa
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Leviaxxan
Gallente LEGI0N SOUL CARTEL
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:52:00 -
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Put me down for 230 shares
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Relyen
Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:16:00 -
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Reserving 250m worth of shares pending outcome of investigation.
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Feyloan
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Viilaa Edited by: Viilaa on 23/01/2008 14:22:13 Edited by: Viilaa on 23/01/2008 14:14:09 Share Update
Shares Sold: 50 Shares Reserved: 1330 Shares Left: 120
Reserve List:
Bad Bobby - 250 Alkarz - 250 Astorothe - 100 Shannar'a - 200 Minerva Vulcan - 50 Leviaxxan - 230 Relyen - 250
Viilaa
You missed my reservation above for 50
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Bouncer Ricdic
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Bouncer Ricdic on 23/01/2008 15:42:11 Yes use Assens to check out your API etc. If all that goes good EBANK will throw 200m down for your venture.
edit: Assuming anything is left
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Feyloan
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Bouncer Ricdic Edited by: Bouncer Ricdic on 23/01/2008 15:42:11 Yes use Assens to check out your API etc. If all that goes good EBANK will throw 200m down for your venture.
edit: Assuming anything is left
There should be 70 left for ebank my friend
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Assens Letta
Hunerian Science Institute Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:58:00 -
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Kylar, sry for the outburst, trust Vs Thrust.... oh well remember me to do a spelling verification next time (besides i am know to have made that same mistake on the past).
Next time just make the laugh clearer (like underline the thrust or make some kind of pun).
now... for API key, yes ill use 3rd party software, and ill start doing it tonight, convo me in game viilaa or drop a eve-mail.
Thanks
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aegisburnem
Minmatar Ivy League
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:13:00 -
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I'm in for 200mm pending verification. I realize that this is oversubscribed but figure that someone might drop out.
Aegis
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:23:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 23/01/2008 19:25:32 I'm really getting tired of new players offering fixed returns.
The only reason a new person is worth investing in is if they offer a % based payout. They are trying to build trust so they tend to have to pay more. It's already high-risk because the new person isn't trustworthy. Thus you might as well make the reward possibly high as well.
Plus, if they can't meet the 7% then what? They panic and either eat into the initial investment or they decide they can't handle it and just disappear. If they are instead paying out a percent of profit they cannot eat into investment. If they do well, great. If they do poorly then that's a risk the investor is taking.
There is a ton of risk for a mere 7%. And no, I don't want guaranteed 10,15, or 20% returns. Profit based returns is what makes the small investments in new people exciting and interesting.
The only reason people are investing in this is because they truly have nothing else to invest in. That said, it is sold out... so good luck.
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Mtber
Caldari Mtber Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 19:55:00 -
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I did a bit of 'due diligence' on this IPO.
The 1st thing I discover is that Viilaa is currently training Mining Barge V
Is the op planning on buying a hulk with the 400m? Mining isn't mentioned anywhere in the prospectus.
The OP states :- 'My main source of income is from trading on the market'
The OP has very poor trading skills i.e. Trade4 and Retail1 . This character has got 24 buy/sell orders which is appalling for a 4 month character whose 'main source of income is from trading on the market'
I could go on at lenth about this IPO. For instance the OP has been making 35m a month for the last 4 months but now tells us that he is confident of making 475m a month profit for the next 4 months in order to be able to repay the loan. How? I would want a lot more confidence in the OPs skill and expertise before I would consider investing in this.
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