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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:49:00 -
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Greetings after some advice from several people I have made up a new plan.
1.Investors will be given shares of a total of 49% of the corp. shares.
2.One trusted party will be given 51% of the shares 5010 shares. The third party will be one from the MD forum, witch both have trust and some spare time to keep a over site of the project.
3.15 billion will be divided on the last amount of 4990 shares given them a value of 3m each.
4.Isk will be sent to the third party of witch I will talk with so he can perches the bpo needed for the project.
5.The third party will give out the shares to investors; I will only Handel the base of operation, with the bpo locked down and under control of the third party and the share holders.
6.All investors will be able to place an alt in the corp. if they wish.
7.The tower has been changed to a medium tower none faction due to risk involved if someone should war deck the corp. all moods will be taken down, and shipped to the station, and then be defended. So minimal risk will come to any module at the pos.
8.There will be defence plans for the pos.
9.Share holders will be given all info they wish, and will be apart of making calls that can influence there profit, and gain more from there own investment if any of the share holders have good ides to improve the profit over what is expected.
10.Fuel will be stored in a corp. hanger at the pos for 2 months fuel time. And will be refilled each 1,5 month.
Anyone willing to be the third party pls post here or contact me in game. samne for intrested investors. if you have any ides on how to make this project more safe for the investors feel free to post your ides.
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 13:50:00 -
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Re Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Minerva Vulcan
Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:05:00 -
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He actually chatted me up earlier in game about this, and while I was initially amused and thought he was going to try and sweet talk me out of some ISK, he asked for ideas on how to make it a safer venture for any potential investors. I decided to run with it and gave him some ideas off the top of my head that would make it a safer prospect for investors. He seems to have outlined a lot of them here.
Whether or not this gains any interest I don't know, or really care, as I probably won't put any ISK into it myself, but it gave me something to do while I was waiting on a refine to finish. (POS refining is the suck.)
I now leave it in the capable hands of the rest of the forum to critique/trash/whatever. I'm (supposedly, baring me getting distracted by anything else) heading to bed for a while, been up all night. I'm sure there's better ways to do some of the things I suggested, if anyone's more experienced with these things feel free to toss my ideas right out the window in place of something better.
He mentioned having alts that would do any research, and I'd also suggested that he get those API verified on inEVE.net and also post here under the character to verify that they are in fact his. I'd also hold out for some numbers on how exactly he plans on making ISK off this.
Yeah... off to bed for me... I just caught myself before I started rambling off every half assed thought in my head.
Have fun. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets. |
YouGotRipped
Gallente Ewigkeit Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:16:00 -
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To take advantage of a scammer like this and feed his hopes... that was very cruel of you.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:18:00 -
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Sorry, you don't get to walk away from your past.
This guy is a known scammer in-game, and people don't change. Sure, he's trying to come up with a good plan, and let's assume for a moment that he's actually serious about this. Maybe he's convinced himself that this is his chance to go legit. Let's just assume that for a moment.
Now let me tell you a story.
One day there was a Fox standing by the side of a fast moving river. The Fox knew he could swim across, even with the current and was preparing himself to do just that. Just then, a Scorpion came along and said to the Fox, "Hey, I need to cross this river, could I ride upon your back?" The Fox replied, "Let you ride on my back? You are a Scorpion! You'll sting me and then I'll die!" To which the Scorpion said, "That's ridiculous, if I sting you while we're crossing the River, we'll both die." The Fox considered this and decided that the Scorpion had a point, so he let the Scorpion upon his back and dived into the river.
Halfway across the Fox felt the Scorpion sting him upon his back. The Fox was understandably upset, "You fool! You've stung me, now we'll both die!" The Scorpion sighed and said with regret, "I'm sorry, it is my nature to sting." The Fox fell victim to the poison of the Scorpion and both were swept away by the river.
The moral of the story? A scammer is a scammer, no matter what they say. It is their nature.
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Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:22:00 -
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A scammer is a scammer, always.
For the record, those who invest in him should expect never to receive my ISK. Regardless of the securities put in place doing business with someone like him sends a message to scammers that hurts everyone in the long run.
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Robacz
Essence Trade Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:26:00 -
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Scam or not, there is some good effort in this, besides they are Borg. Resistance is futile.
I reserve 33 shares of the Borg!
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:47:00 -
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A Snake charmer moved from village to village to entertain folks with his acrobatic team of a monkey, a snake and a goat. Once, while wading across a river, he balanced the snake basket on his head, sat the monkey on his shoulder and guided the goat with his hand. The water level was low but there flowed a strong current.
The charmer cautiously took his steps, with an eye on all three of his team. Midway, where the force was fierce enough to drag away the goat, he tightened his grip on it. The other two were safe above. Or were they? The monkey, by nature, was mischievous. It was restless and couldn't resist playing a game. It slowly opened the snake basket. The snake within the darkness of the basket sprung up with its head high and tongue hissing... sss sss sss. The sound and fury, frightened the monkey and it fell into the water.
The current began to drag the monkey away. A split-second effort to save the monkey threw the charmer off balance and he dropped the snake basket into the stream. To catch hold of the basket, he lost his grip on the goat. Within seconds, all three of his companions - the monkey, the snake and the goat were carried away by the current. In real life, our mind is the monkey. It is restless and difficult to predict.
Many times it causes trouble and leads us into serious trouble. Instead of helping us float across the ocean of life, it throws us into the ocean. Therefore, it is wise that we control and master our mind.
I have changed my mind on how to enjoy my time in eve, and i wish to do a honest living, belive it or not.
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Hersheff
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:57:00 -
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No one wold wold believe that trough.
You wold have to accomplish some serious tasks to even redeem yourself.
~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now, quiet! The're about to announce the lottery numbers... |
Old Hermit
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Posted - 2008.01.23 14:59:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream I have changed my mind on how to enjoy my time in eve, and i wish to do a honest living, belive it or not.
We have not changed our mind about you.
Of course we respect the effort it took to copy and paste that story but the truth is that you may some day earn forgiveness for your previous scamming ways.
What you will not earn is another opportunity. |
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream In real life, our mind is the monkey. It is restless and difficult to predict.
Many times it causes trouble and leads us into serious trouble. Instead of helping us float across the ocean of life, it throws us into the ocean. Therefore, it is wise that we control and master our mind.
I have changed my mind on how to enjoy my time in eve, and i wish to do a honest living, belive it or not.
You have no mastery over your true natureh.
There are no second chances with known scammers and I will make sure that it stays this way for as long as I'm around.
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Mr Horizontal
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:07:00 -
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StarScream, you're trying to run before you can walk.
If for some reason you really have had an epiphany (why, btw?), then you've got to do all the following, in order: 1) give everyone you've scammed back their ISK 2) invest in someone else far trustworthier than you with your own ISK 3) make business plan thats not just about covering ours and your ass about security but also outlining a valid business idea. 4) wait about a year of being a good honest trader after doing all of the above.
Also, you have to actually enter your API details into ineve.net so you get an 'API Verified' message, otherwise you can just edit an XML file with noob skills and post it up on ineve. In any case, it seems all you can do is Drone someone to death from a Dominix, so what exactly do you want to do?
And you'll just have to take it on the chin, the fact that the line 'once a liar always a liar' will be with you until the end of days, even if you've truly had an epiphany.
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Protheroe
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:11:00 -
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Quote: I have changed my mind on how to enjoy my time in eve, and i wish to do a honest living, belive it or not.
Will you be making an apology to the victims of your previous scams, and reimbursing their ISK?
Again, making a post with Miss Fiona confirming the character is your alt would be a substantial gesture of good faith.
I will buy some shares from the trusted third party if you can demonstrate that you have met those two criteria. |
General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:36:00 -
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I feelt i was doing evil,and hurting people, and those i ended it all.
and i really want to do a honest living in eve, and gain the trust of meny, so i can scam em for even more isk in the future ;) (jk)
but i have changed, i dont even kill people any more. im a hombel soul, trying to make my living in the universe. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Confuzer
Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:41:00 -
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If I was a known scammer, and I wanted a honest IPO. I would create a new character, or buy one.
It makes me wonder why he didn't. It makes this the more stupid. Is it ignorance? Is it plain stupidity? or is this just one big joke.
Who knows... Invest in this, and loose your money. I now accept bets! ----------------- Destiny is not a matter of chance. It is a matter of choice. It's not a thing to be waited for - it is a thing to be achieved. |
Bouncer Ricdic
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Hexxx Sorry, you don't get to walk away from your past.
100% agree with this. You chose the scam past once in your career and nothing says you won't choose it again. A corporation with 200% security and 30% per month returns wouldn't have me invest in you. Simply put you don't deserve a drop of isk. You dug your grave, now sleep in it. (or somethin like that).
Nothing would change my mind on you, nor would I be interested in securing any venture funded by you. (And no, he never scammed me)
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YouGotRipped
Gallente Ewigkeit Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:52:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer If I was a known scammer, and I wanted a honest IPO. I would create a new character, or buy one.
It makes me wonder why he didn't. It makes this the more stupid. Is it ignorance? Is it plain stupidity? or is this just one big joke.
Who knows... Invest in this, and loose your money. I now accept bets!
It's pretty simple. A new char would be unknown to the rest and in his mind would have lesser chances to get the money. He's pretty convinced that he'll manage to fool everyone saying that he has changed. That's his big bet.
Loohooseher.
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Bouncer Ricdic
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Confuzer If I was a known scammer, and I wanted a honest IPO. I would create a new character, or buy one.
He can't. He is tied to his character. Kinda like me with Ricdic. I couldn't sell him it's kinda the essence of who I am. I couldn't just pick things up with a new character it would be like restarting my whole journey, or waking up from a coma with my memories and someone else's life.
Sometimes we see this with scammer's. Maybe he is repenting in which case his main focus should be repaying those he scammed just like Horizontal said.
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:14:00 -
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Dont a man deserve a second chance in life?
i have repented and turnd my back on the evil flame that thrives on others. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Old Hermit
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream Dont a man deserve a second chance in life? i have repented and turnd my back on the evil flame that thrives on others.
Originally by: Old Hermit you may some day earn forgiveness for your previous scamming ways. What you will not earn is another opportunity.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream Dont a man deserve a second chance in life?
i have repented and turnd my back on the evil flame that thrives on others.
Scammers don't get second chances here.
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Ambo
2nd Outcasters
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:12:00 -
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Look, you're a well known ex-scammer and notorious for being an arse. No one will give you any money unless there is full collateral provided to a third party and even then many still won't bite out of principle or because of your image (i.e. being a bit of a numpty).
Either give it up or find at least 100% collateral for your project.
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:14:00 -
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So in your way to forth drive justice and honest ways.
you turn ye back on the broken flames? Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Balogh
Gallente Real-time EVE Stock Exchange
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:18:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream 1.Investors will be given shares of a total of 49% of the corp. shares.
2.One trusted party will be given 51% of the shares 5010 shares. The third party will be one from the MD forum, witch both have trust and some spare time to keep a over site of the project.
Is there any specific reason for that?
The only valid reason I can think of is to make sure shareholders cannot interfere with votes. That seems to be in conflict with point 9.
Quote: 4.Isk will be sent to the third party of witch I will talk with so he can perches the bpo needed for the project.
You might want to work on your spelling :) _________ Real-time EVE Stock Exchange, Blog Feature request: Share transfer log (4 months and counting!) |
Daeva Vios
Ares Arms and Modules LLC
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:20:00 -
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100% collateral and 3 months interest paid or you get nothing.
A scammer is a scammer. You're not even good at it. Why do you keep spamming these forums? All you're doing is getting people more irritated.
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Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:23:00 -
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I've had enough StarScam, just GTFO out of MD.
To the rest of you: As far as I'm concerned, anyone who does business with this piece of crap prior to him paying back every single cent he scammed plus interest is condoning scamming and can be expected to have references to this in response to any public offerings they make.
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:30:00 -
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lol some of you people are worse than corp theifs, and trollop amarr trash.
i try my best at spelling english, its not easy.
I said i have stoped my scamming ways, theres no need to threten anyone doing biz with me. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:33:00 -
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Balogh
yes i figured it would be better than one person the investors can trust, would hold the 51% of the shares.
just in case some of the share holders would scam the others or something like that. Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: General StarScream lol some of you people are worse than corp theifs, and trollop amarr trash.
i try my best at spelling english, its not easy.
I said i have stoped my scamming ways, theres no need to threten anyone doing biz with me.
Anyone doing business with General StarScream will lose favor and respect in my eyes.
I can not and will not allow a precident such as this being set for any reason as long as I have a shred of influence in these forums.
I hope I've made myself clear.
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General StarScream
Borg Collective hive mind
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:35:00 -
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Lol hexx dont you claim your self a littel to high here? Please resize signature to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
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