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Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
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Posted - 2012.02.12 10:17:00 -
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I was discussing the meaning of life with people in a channel somewhere when I had a sudden and life altering question about Eve. Does CCP show favoritism to some players more than others?
If CCP ever find out that somebody relevant to them, like Chribba for example, were to have violated the EULA in a bannable manner, do you think they'd burry it or let them off with a lesser punishment than they would say John Doe?
Take Mittens for example. He's the head of the CSM, runs Goonswarm, proclaims he's the most influential player, and all together makes a lot of noise in Eve. CCP has player accounts that are anonymously apart of the population, hire people from Eve, and is very active in the community. It stands to reason CCP has some kind of relation to Mittens. If mittens were to bot and raise the flags that CCP uses to track bots, do you think they'd go easier on him than anybody else? Perhaps let him off with a warning where they'd usually ban somebody? After all, he's on the CSM, leads an alliance, and does stuff. |
Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
75
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Posted - 2012.02.12 10:22:00 -
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I'd like to think CCP is unbiassed. But the fact is, CCP is run by people and not computers. And people become attached to others, get toilet paper stuck to their shoe, and have their sleeves get stuck on door knobs. So, it can happen. Just wondering if it does and if the community thinks it does.
Edit: What I'm trying to ask is if you and mittens were busted for doing eula violation a with no priors for both of you, would mittens get off with a warning when you would be banned? |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2812
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Posted - 2012.02.12 10:30:00 -
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Of course it exists.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Whack-A-Mole
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:27:00 -
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Youd have to be an idiot to believe it doesnt happen ANY time people group together. So yes it has, is and will continue to happen for a lot of underlying psychological reasons. Strength isnt measured in numbers but in force of will. For if one motived willful individual stands many will fall around him that are weak.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
339
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:31:00 -
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CCP bans people off and on. Usually they lift the ban unless its really extreme. Like most punishment cases Time can be part of the punishment and CCP uses that as well.
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ILikeMarkets
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:31:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote: Take Mittens for example. He's the head of the CSM, runs Goonswarm, proclaims he's the most influential player...
lol. Sure he is Protect highsec.-áWe are the 66%.
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Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:49:00 -
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I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani?
As far as Im aware, if you do a bannable offence you get banned. There have been influential peoepl banned previously, even if its not game making influence they wielded. There has always been talk of ccp favoritism, and there always will be.
I think the talk just depends on who the general public hate most at the time, they will get accused fo having ccp influence. Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2812
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:56:00 -
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Are you going on about the Xenuria is a paedo thread?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:56:00 -
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Rico Minali wrote:I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani?
It is a stealth attack. |
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1122
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:58:00 -
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I highly doubt CCP would give a tough punishment on any CSM member caught for the first time.
Hell, CCP probably settle with a promise not to do it again.
Last thing CCP want's to do is have the CSM mad at them, especially since CCP is still busy placating the player base for last summer. |
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Tora Bushido
Count With Teddy Mercenaries Stay Calm Don't Panic
13
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Posted - 2012.02.12 12:11:00 -
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In the end, its all about just one thing.......me.....euhhhh..... I mean $$$$$. 'We need Tora on CSM like we need holes in our heads.... Both will get you metal plates
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:11:00 -
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it is in any company's best interest to give preferential treatment to exceptionally well-known/influential customers
on the other hand (especially in gaming) no company wants this preferential treatment to get too much public coverage lest other customers feel disadvantaged.
for a somewhat recent example of the awkward dance this results in see this summary of the aftermath of Blizzard banning a very well-known WoW player. of course they lifted the ban after a few days and of course this decision had nothing to do with the person on the receiving end, the publicity he had managed to generate around the whole event and his sponsor - Razer - intervening on his behalf but was based on a careful review of evidence. |
Ptraci
StoneWall Metals Productions Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:17:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:
If CCP ever find out that somebody relevant to them, like Chribba for example, were to have violated the EULA in a bannable manner, do you think they'd burry it or let them off with a lesser punishment than they would say John Doe?
There's another school of thought that says that Chribba would receive a harsher penalty since he is so "popular" and therefore easier to be made an example of than some John Doe that no one knows/cares about. Favoritism can work in different directions, but if it exists you can safely bet that the direction will always be in favor of the hidden agenda of the one using favoritism. |
Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
61
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:20:00 -
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They usually ban first, figure it out later.
In the case of an e-celeb, it usually works out against the company to ban him, because then the "victim" can parade around like some sort of holy martyr. In the case where they wouldn't ban an e-famous person over a regular Joe, I'd imagine it would have have more to do with avoiding neckbeard fallout than actual favoritism |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
340
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:23:00 -
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Nah CCP doesnt show any favoritism, When T2BPOs dropped from their loot caravan they dropped for everyone. Signature removed, CCP Phantom |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
802
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:36:00 -
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yes it's biased, CCP Punkturis hates me, therefore she loves you all and by doing this her feelings are biased towards me
CCP Punkturis hear meh
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Something Random
The Barrow Boys
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:53:00 -
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Sure they do.
Im getting little love letters from them all the time. Some are quite kinky actually.
"caught on fire a little bit, just a little." "Delinquents, check, weirdos, check, hippies, check, pillheads, check, freaks, check, potheads, check .....gangsn++ all here!" |
Riley Moore
Sentinum Research
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Posted - 2012.02.12 13:58:00 -
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Of course it exists, CCP Soundwave knows that I know what he did two summers ago. I'm untouchable! Large volumes of highly researched Ammo, drones, charges and ship bpo's. Biggest BPO store in EVE! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=445524#post445524 |
Hainnz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.12 14:55:00 -
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I know you're talking about EULA-breaking and not EVE-legal bad behavior, but I find myself getting upset at the idea that Chribba would do something underhanded. (His alts can do whatever, though and it wouldn't bother me.) :-) |
Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
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Posted - 2012.02.12 15:20:00 -
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Do you actually know for a fact that it was The Mittani that broadcasted that 'Xenuria is a Paedophile' slanderbait?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki |
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Pok Nibin
Viziam Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.12 15:24:00 -
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Gawd! Mitt IS a violation of the EULA. In the fine print there it says "...and you CAN'T be UGLY and play this game." Poor kid. His momma says he's ugly! U - G - L - Y, ugly, ugly UGLY! Don't fight it.-á Rejoin your Amarrian patriarchs.-á You know you want to. |
Nephilius
Grey Legionaires
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:23:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:Rico Minali wrote:I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani? It is a stealth attack.
Baaa, says the sheep. Slaughterhouse is thataway. To stand before a man at an inquisition, knowing that he will rejoice when we die, knowing that he will commit us to the stake and its horrors without a moment's hesitation or remorse if we do not satisfy him, is not an experience much less cruel because our inquisitor does not whip us or rack us or shout at us. |
Lady Spank
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
1551
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:31:00 -
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CCP give me 5 plex a week to keep the forums lively so yes, favouritism exists. The important question is; why does it matter? (a¦á_a¦â) ~ http://getoutnastyface.blogspot.com/ ~ (a¦á_a¦â) |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released 0ccupational Hazzard
452
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:33:00 -
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DeMichael Crimson wrote:I highly doubt CCP would give a tough punishment on any CSM member caught for the first time.
Hell, CCP probably settle with a promise not to do it again.
Last thing CCP want's to do is have the CSM mad at them, especially since CCP is still busy placating the player base for last summer.
Guess you weren't around when CCP removed Ankhesentapemkah from the CSM. I'd kill kittens and puppies and bunnies I'd maim toddlers and teens and then more |
Akrasjel Lanate
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
584
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:34:00 -
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Mittani support boting does it count |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
394
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:38:00 -
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Nephilius wrote:2bhammered wrote:Rico Minali wrote:I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani? It is a stealth attack. Baaa, says the sheep. Slaughterhouse is thataway. lmao sheep calling hahaahh |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
394
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Posted - 2012.02.12 17:38:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:Nephilius wrote:2bhammered wrote:Rico Minali wrote:I am confuse, is this a legitimate question or a stealth attack on Mitani? It is a stealth attack. Baaa, says the sheep. Slaughterhouse is thataway. lmao sheep calling hahaahh hahaahaha i know right
e: oops forgot to swap alt oh well |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4593
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:36:00 -
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this guy thinks i log into eve online more than once in a blue moon
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Soporo
Perkone Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2012.02.12 19:57:00 -
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Look up the T20 threadnought debacle and then decide if blatant favoritism can't exist in EVE.
Devs are in normal player Corps and Alliances at all levels, they allways have been and always will be, and people will be people, particularly when there seems to be zero evidence of mitigating controlls. Whether or not that's true, only CCP knows, butthat is the perception. Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. - H.L. Mencken |
Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
803
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Posted - 2012.02.12 20:03:00 -
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Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Mittani support boting does it count
I wouldn't go there since seems old TCF space doesn't seem to have drones, however they do have rating bots just go there and sit you'll figure it out by yourself, just like every alliance, do you really think a "normal" player can do several billions daily/weekly,monthly (regular amounts)?
Is he an asshat drunken mittens raper? -probably yes, arrogant for sure. (it's some english native skill anyway ) Is he a boter? -well if you have proves then show us |
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