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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:48:00 -
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I've tested this on both the Premium and Classic Trinity clients.
The default Overview settings do not have stargates checked as visible, which means that they are effectively invisible to new players who don't know how to configure their Overview settings properly. ________________
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Erialor Godsent
Gallente Conisor Excavations Syndicate Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:52:00 -
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I must admit I haven't done any extensive testing, but stargates have always been showed by default on my overview.... --
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:55:00 -
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Originally by: Erialor Godsent I must admit I haven't done any extensive testing, but stargates have always been showed by default on my overview....
I know this because I'm a returning player, and when I installed Trinity on my system and started playing again, the stargates weren't on the overview.
A few days ago, I installed Classic on my old iMac, and once again, the standard default settings had stargates unchecked.
Also, I've had to tell new players joining my corp how to check stargates in their overview, because they couldn't see them with default settings.
Finally, I just now (five seconds ago) loaded the Default >> Standard settings in my client, and the stargates vanished from my overview. ________________
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:56:00 -
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I agree, this should be changed. You should post this in Features and Ideas though, more likely to get it looked at. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78.2 |
Lt Angus
Caldari the united Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:56:00 -
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as if theres not enough crap on overview
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Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.01.24 21:58:00 -
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Yes! I had SO much trouble herding newbies along on missions with me, until I figured out this was the problem.
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.01.24 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 24/01/2008 22:04:54
Originally by: Tarminic I agree, this should be changed. You should post this in Features and Ideas though, more likely to get it looked at.
Ah... you're right.
A CCP person will probably come along and move it shortly. ________________
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Opel Astra
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Posted - 2008.01.24 22:11:00 -
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Yeah, and then there's the bug where chat windows and overview settings don't always stick at login. I'm getting tired reconfiging overview, shuffling chat windows, blah, blah.
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Bin Matar
Fallen Angel's Blade.
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Posted - 2008.01.24 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Bin Matar on 24/01/2008 22:15:17 thenb theres the bug where ive had 2 chars 5 jumps apart trying to log into delve for 17 mins and counting.
CCP = All dreams no clue
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CCP Explorer
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Posted - 2008.01.29 10:54:00 -
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This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games |
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Gangus
Minmatar Matari BackBone
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Posted - 2008.01.29 10:59:00 -
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Don't need??? um... there's just so much wrong about that statement i dunno where to begin... Stargates are n integral part of this game, the NEED to be on the overview... most noobs don't know how to put them there, at least add an overview tute PLEASE!!!
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Frith Hai
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:01:00 -
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BTW, OP is using a copyrighted author's name for their name.
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Big Fuzz
ACCORD Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:05:00 -
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Unnecessary? Then remove all those convoys, npc cops, and concord ships. That'll leave plenty of room for gates.
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Zaqar
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:05:00 -
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Edited by: Zaqar on 29/01/2008 11:05:05
Originally by: CCP Explorer This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
But there's all sorts of junk on there when you start; cops, npc convoys, sentry guns :S
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:05:00 -
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no the OP's name is just very similar,
-- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & Recruiting
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Miss Anthropy
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Frith Hai BTW, OP is using a copyrighted author's name for their name.
Does the use of the author's name offend you that much you have to derail an important bug related thread? What a sad, insignificant globule of pondlife you are.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:17:00 -
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This is not a bug, it has been that way for as long as I can remember.
I have always had to add gates to my overview. _________________ Burn. |
MOS DEF
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
You guys are funny. You show npc traders on opverview tempting the new player o have a shot at it but you don't show em the most essential stargates because it could confuse em?
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Tzar'rim
Minmatar Reckless Corsairs
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:23:00 -
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What I hate a lot more is if you remove neutrals from your overview, you also lose gates.
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Siigari Kitawa
Gallente The Aduro Protocol The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: MOS DEF
Originally by: CCP Explorer This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
You guys are funny. You show npc traders on opverview tempting the new player o have a shot at it but you don't show em the most essential stargates because it could confuse em?
Traders, though actually targetable and destroyable dropping decent loot, are what is known as flavor. They are in the game to add spice and story to the game.
It's cool to pull up to a station in highsec and see a caravan moving away from a station, I think. _________________ Burn. |
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Inti Barrabass
Phoibe Enterprises The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:29:00 -
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I agree totally. Stargates should be by default in the overview. There are one of most important things there. The argument that players don't need them in their first hours is really strange. What do you need more then Stargates, along with Stations and Ships? Do you need to see Sentry Guns in your first few hours? Certainly not, and yet they are there. That doesn't make much sense.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Ama-gi
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:30:00 -
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There's actually a reproducable bug whereby you end up not being able to see gates on overview even though you have it selected. I spent the 10 minutes to type it all up in great detail, and i got back a message saying they were aware of it. I don't recall seeing it in 'known issues'. I personally think it's related somehow to the faction standings, and the faction that 'owns' the stargate and when you start using standings to filter out objects it applies to the gates and not just the ships.
none of that is official mind you, but I thought I'd save you the time in case you discover it and want to type up the steps to reproduce it. already been done. -- No love for the Matari |
Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 29/01/2008 11:33:49
Originally by: CCP Explorer This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
But billboards are on the overview by default and they have to be the most useless in-space item there is. -- (Battle hardened industrialist)
[Brackley, UK]
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SoftRevolution
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:34:00 -
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I see the argument. They don't want people wandering off and getting lost EVE RELATED CONTENT |
KOMNausicaa
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:36:00 -
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I am convinced that many new players do not discover the possibility of configuring your Overview before weeks have gone by. Some of the trials have maybe never seen it. Again Stargates should really be there. It's the only way to travel manually without getting completely nuts.
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xttz
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Explorer This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
Billboards, Corpses, Cans, Wrecks, ALL NPC ships, including Concord and faction police, Sentry guns, Friendly NPC-corp ships
...all show by default, and all get removed when most people create a new character.
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Frygok
Minmatar Malicious Intentions The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:37:00 -
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I actually created a bug report because if you remove neutrals from your overview, you remove ALL ships, AND stargates.
I was told that it was something they were looking into and already aware of it. It's been months though, so I'm not keeping my hopes up.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Ama-gi
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Frygok I actually created a bug report because if you remove neutrals from your overview, you remove ALL ships, AND stargates.
I was told that it was something they were looking into and already aware of it. It's been months though, so I'm not keeping my hopes up.
u 2 eh? -- No love for the Matari |
Miss Anthropy
The Greater Goon GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: xttz
Originally by: CCP Explorer This is intended, to not clutter the overview with information that new players don't need in their first few hours.
Billboards, Corpses, Cans, Wrecks, ALL NPC ships, including Concord and faction police, Sentry guns, Friendly NPC-corp ships
...all show by default, and all get removed when most people create a new character.
This. I got rid of all this crap from my overview. All I have left are player ships, stations, gates and occasionally asteroid types when I mine.
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Menkaure
Amarr Vanitas Corp.
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Posted - 2008.01.29 11:52:00 -
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Meh? Don't think I've EVER used stargates on the overview for anything?
Seems kinda pointless to me, whats wrong with warping using rightclick? Or the triangle next to system name...
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