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Audrea
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.05 16:22:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Ovek
Originally by: Audrea
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: Berand
It's already been sorted.
Then why is it here?
Originally by: Berand
If this guy comes to apply to your corp, then you would care.
He wouldn't apply to my corp, we suck. Plus he wouldn't get in anyway 
Then why do you care so much? 
Go on, plenty of threads in eve-o, as wel all know
I'm with Leilani.
like 85% veto posts in this thread, it's like a verone video.
This sort of thing should be sorted in game (as in he joins a corp you convo his ceo) just another rubbish thread in c&p.
No one says this is a worse course of action here, just that the one taken, and the one you (or Leilani, whatever) suggest are not exclusive of each other..
ie, there is nothing to stop Verone from convoing new ceo, in addition to what was done here - if he wants to.
Anyway this is my last post on this 'issue', dont really care who believes or who doesnt.. up to you guys.
Got lots of more important stuff to do anyway..
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Verone
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.05 17:38:00 -
[62]
To clarify :
This was released to the general population of Eve in the same context as all the other threads that name corp thieves, scammers and people who aren't to be trusted. It was intended as a warning to whomever attempts to recruit the guy, if he stays with Eve.
As for people trolling, there will always be the select number of people who regularly post in response to anything I do with trolling, flaming or a general negative attitude towards myself and my corp. If you don't like what I post, don't read threads that I make. It doesn't take a brain surgen to work out that's the easiest and simplest thing to do.
I'm flattered and happy that I annoy you enough to be the subject of repetitive trolling, often the same names turn up in threads I post over and over again. It's amusing to watch sometimes.
Finally, on proof :
I could post all the proof I wanted regarding how we identified who was selling us out. However I'm not going to because this will make apparent the methods we used to root out who was spying on us.
Not a good plan, if we have future incidents on this level (the personal details of one of our members embedded in a PDF that was intented to be viewed by a select few people being sold publically) I'd like to employ the same methods to sort it out quickly again, without the person resonsible being able to take steps to protect themselves.
Regardless of any of the responses to this thread, my ability to be trusted in Eve is how I make a living. It's important in my ingame line of work, as such we took several days to confirm the result from initial suspicion.
Whether or not people decide to take note of what I posted as a warning is their choice, it's not up to me to decide that.
Should the same thing ever happen to another corporation, permit me to offer the phrase "I Told You So" in advance.
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Ikthorn Balhar
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:25:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Verone
This was released to the general population of Eve in the same context as all the other threads that name corp thieves, scammers and people who aren't to be trusted. It was intended as a warning to whomever attempts to recruit the guy, if he stays with Eve.
This would make perfect sense if I had been the person that did this, but it wasn't me. All you gained from this was soil my in-game reputation.
This accusation just made it a lot harder to pick up the pieces if ever decided to return to EvE in the future if I had any desire to do so. Like I said in my earlier post, it's a waste of two years worth of character training.
Originally by: Verone
Finally, on proof :
I could post all the proof I wanted regarding how we identified who was selling us out. However I'm not going to because this will make apparent the methods we used to root out who was spying on us.
So it's my word against yours, and we all know who public opinion is going to be in favor of.
Originally by: Verone
Not a good plan, if we have future incidents on this level (the personal details of one of our members embedded in a PDF that was intented to be viewed by a select few people being sold publically) I'd like to employ the same methods to sort it out quickly again, without the person resonsible being able to take steps to protect themselves.
This is not true and you know it. The PDF you're referring to was accessible to anyone that joined from day one, not a 'select few people', and it was on a publicly-accessible webserver with no access control.
Originally by: Verone
Regardless of any of the responses to this thread, my ability to be trusted in Eve is how I make a living. It's important in my ingame line of work, as such we took several days to confirm the result from initial suspicion.
It's convenient that this 'initial suspicion' was confirmed, specially when I can't defend myself. You posting this thread without giving me a chance to challenge whatever 'proof' is also pretty rotten, but I guess it doesn't really matter. It's just 'internet spaceships', right?
If you want to make me the scapegoat for this, that's fine. Good luck finding whoever truly did this because it sure as hell wasn't me, but I imagine they might be having a good chuckle right about now.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:37:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Shar Tegral on 05/02/2008 21:37:28
Originally by: Verone
Regardless of any of the responses to this thread, my ability to be trusted in Eve is how I make a living. It's important in my ingame line of work, as such we took several days to confirm the result from initial suspicion.
For all the years that Verone has been around, he's told the brutal truth. Very truth, Very brutal. 'Nuff said.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean. |
Jinx Denton
Minmatar
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.05 23:42:00 -
[65]
Regarding this whole mess I'd like to say that I'm sad that we got betrayed especially since we pride ourselves on being a close-knit family and a group of friends rather than a group of geeks playing internet spaceships.
I would be very happy if I found out that Ikthorn didn't do anything wrong and got framed by some 1337 ***** framing him with the cunning use of IP addresses, carrier pigeons and flags. But if it's one man's word against another I'd probably trust Verone rather than anyone else I've met both on the intranets and in a Western themed pub in Northern England.
If Ikthorn is innocent and has nothing to do with this I am truly sorry he got shat on from such a height. But if he did the **** he is accused of I would hope he can muster the balls to come clean and explain himself since no one has gained anything from this whole debacle.
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.06 00:08:00 -
[66]
Edited by: Setana Manoro on 06/02/2008 00:13:17
Edited by: Setana Manoro on 06/02/2008 00:12:30
Originally by: Verone
To clarify :
This was released to the general population of Eve in the same context as all the other threads that name corp thieves, scammers and people who aren't to be trusted. It was intended as a warning to whomever attempts to recruit the guy, if he stays with Eve.
As for people trolling, there will always be the select number of people who regularly post in response to anything I do with trolling, flaming or a general negative attitude towards myself and my corp. If you don't like what I post, don't read threads that I make. It doesn't take a brain surgen to work out that's the easiest and simplest thing to do.
I'm flattered and happy that I annoy you enough to be the subject of repetitive trolling, often the same names turn up in threads I post over and over again. It's amusing to watch sometimes.
Finally, on proof :
I could post all the proof I wanted regarding how we identified who was selling us out. However I'm not going to because this will make apparent the methods we used to root out who was spying on us.
Not a good plan, if we have future incidents on this level (the personal details of one of our members embedded in a PDF that was intented to be viewed by a select few people being sold publically) I'd like to employ the same methods to sort it out quickly again, without the person resonsible being able to take steps to protect themselves.
Regardless of any of the responses to this thread, my ability to be trusted in Eve is how I make a living. It's important in my ingame line of work, as such we took several days to confirm the result from initial suspicion.
Whether or not people decide to take note of what I posted as a warning is their choice, it's not up to me to decide that.
Should the same thing ever happen to another corporation, permit me to offer the phrase "I Told You So" in advance.
Since you won't post proof, and it's a case of who's e-peen is larger to settle the score - too bad it is this case, then one base rule could be easier to apply : "never allow an ex-veto to join your corp". :)
PS: You might be right, but considering the fact that since recently a corp's CEO has a way to tarnish someone's reputation with no repercusions, i and many others want proof.
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slothe
Caldari
0utbreak
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Posted - 2008.02.06 01:29:00 -
[67]
Edited by: slothe on 06/02/2008 01:28:53
so in summary-
the spy sucks
verone sucks (for letting him in)
leilana sucks (just because)
everyone reading this article sucks
have i got the gist of this?
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2008.02.06 01:39:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Verone
To clarify :
Blah Blah Blah
lawl verone got pwned
PAK is recruiting! |
Sevro
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2008.02.06 10:23:00 -
[69]
I hope you guys sunk the boot into his arse a few times before you kicked him.
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Heilios
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Posted - 2008.02.08 15:30:00 -
[70]
so...
he was trying to make in-game isk by selling the details...
through your member's dilligence was booted before he could rob any stuff,
then ...
retro-actively was investigated with 3 different methods over a long time period and found guilty?
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
Auriga inc
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Posted - 2008.02.08 16:12:00 -
[71]
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 06/02/2008 01:28:53
so in summary-
the spy sucks
verone sucks (for letting him in)
leilana sucks (just because)
everyone reading this article sucks
have i got the gist of this?
You suck because you can't spell my name.
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Kehmor
Caldari
PAK
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Posted - 2008.02.08 16:15:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Leilani Solaris
Originally by: slothe
Edited by: slothe on 06/02/2008 01:28:53
so in summary-
the spy sucks
verone sucks (for letting him in)
leilana sucks (just because)
everyone reading this article sucks
have i got the gist of this?
You suck because you can't spell my name.
your name sucks
PAK is recruiting! |
Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2008.02.08 18:58:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Verone
To clarify :
This was released to the general population of Eve in the same context as all the other threads that name corp thieves, scammers and people who aren't to be trusted.
Added name to my list....
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Deathhawk
Absolute Destruction
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.08 22:36:00 -
[74]
surely if he had been doing this and you had proof that he was trying to sell rl details, he would get banned from eve for doing so?
hmm
I ROCK - DH
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Johan Moisander
Caldari
Black Panther Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.08 22:47:00 -
[75]
Question; who the hell would wanna buy someone's personal info? srsly.
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