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Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.15 01:19:00 -
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Greetings! I want to present you my first EVE Online video.
It consists of frigate focused solo PVP in the less secure heart of Molden Heath region. Ships used were exclusively Rifters and Republic Fleet Firetails.
Link: YouTube - 1080p (actually it's 1020p)
Songs (in order): Porcupine Tree - What Happens Now Opeth - Haxprocess Pain of Salvation - Conditioned Pain of Salvation - Waking Every God
I hope you will enjoy it, and if you do - leave me a feedback please (or comment on YT perhaps). Constructive critism is of course more than welcome.
Fly safe, Endra |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:42:00 -
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This should be good! |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
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Posted - 2012.02.15 03:55:00 -
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I was enjoying it until you started using racial ECM in 1v1's. |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.15 04:08:00 -
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+1 for solo frigates and close fights.
-1 for fitting racial ecm's in a 1v1. Seriously, that's really cheap and it turns the fight into a game of chance rather than a contest of skill, so stop it.
Also next time speed up most of your fights to 2x when you edit them together, it makes everything more fast paced and interesting to watch.
I hope to see you make more vids, next time without ecm. :P Latest PVP Video: Laktos Intolerance 2
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Michael Harari
The Hatchery Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.02.15 05:35:00 -
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I see we have an adept of the NERGALION school of pvp here. |
Teron Radec
Enslave. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.02.15 06:54:00 -
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Racial specific jams...Derp. |
Gesadt
Born-2-Kill 0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2012.02.15 10:37:00 -
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was gonna download but then i read ecm in 1v1. kthxbye |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.15 10:56:00 -
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Laktos, thank you for your input. It runs at 140% speed, but maybe it's not enough.
About ECM: TBH I didn't expect a flood of "derp" "kkthxby" posts about two fights with ECM. After all, Firetail has one utility med slot and even then it's a pretty sub-par ship, so in order to win I wanted to try something else...
I understand what you're all saying, nonetheless the rest of the fights are IMO worth watching, even if you skip two of them.
Endra |
Teron Radec
Enslave. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:22:00 -
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Endragor Adventurer wrote:About ECM: TBH I didn't expect a flood of "derp" "kkthxby" posts about two fights with ECM. After all, Firetail has one utility med slot and even then it's a pretty sub-par ship, so in order to win I wanted to try something else... The point is you were using racial specific, which means you've seen what your opposition is in and fitted accordingly, stick in a multi-spec if you want no (less) trolling. ECM is bad, pre-meditated racial-specific ECM is bad(der). |
EddieRio
Time Bandits.
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Posted - 2012.02.15 11:46:00 -
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Laktos wrote:+1 for solo frigates and close fights.
-1 for fitting racial ecm's in a 1v1. Seriously, that's really cheap and it turns the fight into a game of chance rather than a contest of skill, so stop it.
Also next time I would suggest speeding up most of your fights to 2x when you edit them together, it makes everything more fast paced and interesting to watch.
Overall, it was a nice first video imo. I hope to see you make more vids, next time without ecm. :P
what he said,, also the nuet on the rifter seemed counter productive on most fights...
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whispous
Neckbeards International
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:26:00 -
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Specific-fitting for 1v1s is a 1v1 dishonour |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:28:00 -
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Have I ever stated those 2 fights were arranged 1v1s? I didn't because they weren't...
Edit: Looking at the local, the Crusader fight indeed was arranged - I apologize to the pilot for this cowardly tactic then |
Prozacxx
Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:42:00 -
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gj trying to lie into our face when its pretty blatantly clear
ty |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.15 12:51:00 -
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Prozacxx wrote:gj trying to lie into our face when its pretty blatantly clear
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Why would I want to lie to you... I just thought I remember the fight well, then I took a look at the footage again and edited the post, so you know I made a mistake |
Alex Medvedov
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:19:00 -
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Really nice Rifter fights, mate! Mine criticism is the same as Laktos-¦ - fights could have been more accelerated and no ECM should have been used:)
On the ECM note - ECM, racial or not is certainly not a violation of any 1v1. Its ofc pretty lame for reasons stated by Laktos, but as Endragor did not get any help from friends or gang links i consider those 1v1 valid. |
Sard Caid
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:27:00 -
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Tried as hard as I could, but the racial ECM isn't very FRAPs worthy. Even if its a close fight I'm left thinking "damn, you only won by fitting for that guy".
Is it any different than using a TD riffie versus another riffie? No, but I think most people like the illusion of honour in this game.
Great PvP vid man. |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.15 15:47:00 -
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Thanks for your thoughts on this Gunpoint Diplomats!
About TD Rifter fit - I don't fly those againt just Rifters. When I roamed with this fit, I tried to engage everybody, but since it's mostly Rifter Club in there, it was hard to find anything else. I fought vs a Merlin with it and died, hehe
I didn't expect everybody to focus on just the one aspect of the video, and since I don't believe it will stop (well only after the video is long gone in history), I'm ATM in the process of rendering it again without those two fights ("fights" some might say). I'll decide whether to swap them or keep it this way. |
Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:08:00 -
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Racial ECMs on your 1v1 is as bad and unexiting as it gets. you should have let those fights out of the video |
samivael
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.15 17:39:00 -
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Pretty good watch. Best fight was against the guy who spoke all in caps. Less ecm next time |
Firebolt145
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.15 18:22:00 -
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samivael wrote:Pretty good watch. Best fight was against the guy who spoke all in caps. Less ecm next time I have yet to watch the vid but I've already got a pretty good idea who this is ~~ |
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xxxAlloxxx
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.15 19:16:00 -
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Keep it up m8!! Good first vid, I made the same mistake on playback speed my first time around to, 2x speed that stuff makes for a better vid and you can get more fights in to.
ECM.... It's been said I wont say it again just
07 see ya in the Burning Ring of Molden Heath First pvp video: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=214829&#post214829 Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YB-unXaPnyw |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.15 22:55:00 -
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I've uploaded a new version of The Molden Heathen in which I decided to cut out the footage that wasn't truly worth sharing.
If you watched it but stopped in the middle, give it another shot, will you?
Also, the pace is rather slow compared to your standard EVE videos. I don't have a lot of footage and I didn't want the vide to be 4 minutes long, thus the fights are running at 140% speed. You can enjoy the music now! Plus some new (newer than me, that is) pilots might learn a thing or two from it (maaaybeee).
The link is in the first post... |
drdxie
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 00:14:00 -
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Is anything in eve fair? You wet into a fight prepared you won.. GJ. If you really that concerned about fair then you bunch of hypocrites would first check skills, fits and blob sizes before you engaged, and am sure that doesn't happen. |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
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Posted - 2012.02.16 01:02:00 -
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He's free to do what he likes in-game, it doesn't make for an interesting video though, and since I know he uses cheap/boring tactics I won't bother engaging him in-game. |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.16 01:14:00 -
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Johanne D'Arc wrote:He's free to do what he likes in-game, it doesn't make for an interesting video though, and since I know he uses cheap/boring tactics I won't bother engaging him in-game.
If you put it that way, suddenly I feel like I should quit, because flying rifters with common cookie cutter fits is boring and full of cheap tactics...
Since youre 04/10 char (year and few months older than me), I bet you had always lots of success in the begining and you didn't need to come up with fits that would overcome the lack of skill(points).
I agree it wasn't worth it to put it in the video, but it would take just one look at KBs to see that I flown the ECM fit for, like, a day? Why would claim that I use cheap tactics now? |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.16 01:53:00 -
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Big props for editing the video.
It's a real learning process, figuring out what footage is interesting and engaging to watch and which isn't. My first video had a few fights that really should've been left out, and even my second had 1 or 2 that were pretty below-par compared to the rest of the video and I realised later I should've just cut them.
The problem is that our personal memory of a specific fight can be incredibly different to how others perceive it when they see the footage. I'm sure that those ecm fights were very adrenaline pumping for you (they were pretty close), but for those watching, it is pretty meh, because like i stated earlier, ecm turns things into a roll of the dice and ruins the feeling that what we are watching is a contest of skill.
So basically my message is not to get disheartened by all the hate over it, nobody's first video is perfect (and a lot of peoples first videos aren't as high quality as yours). You've obviously accepted the criticism with grace and learnt from it. So I hope to see another video from you in the future :) Latest PVP Video: Laktos Intolerance 2
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Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
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Posted - 2012.02.16 02:08:00 -
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Endragor, I don't particularly mean to be rude, but I mostly associate ECM use with cowards (for anything else but breaking locks to escape). Many think the same. It's chance based, which removes any talk of skill from the discussion but even worse, in a 1v1 situation it's night on going to work in your favour. When the 'chance' is something like 90% success rate, and the effect is 'cannot lock and apply any DPS or tackle', then it's just pointless unless I undock SPECIFICALLY fit to counter you, which puts me at an extreme disadvantage against other setups.
The end result is, if I know you are the type of person to use ECM and I am out soloing, I'm not going to waste my time or my ship on a dice-roll mechanic that is heavily in your favour.
This doesn't mean you shouldn't use it of course, but don't expect people to appreciate it!
I know talking about 'HONOUR' is often laughed at but there is also such a thing as manliness :P |
Sard Caid
Gunpoint Diplomacy
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Posted - 2012.02.16 06:19:00 -
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It's a good video. If you didn't like the ECM, hit fast forward, or DL the version without that type of EWAR.
Props man, please keep it up! |
Endragor Adventurer
CHON THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2012.02.16 08:37:00 -
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Thanks guys, I agree with what you said.
Johanne D'Arc wrote:The end result is, if I know you are the type of person to use ECM and I am out soloing, I'm not going to waste my time or my ship on a dice-roll mechanic that is heavily in your favour. You're right too, it's not manly to use ECM in 1v1, point is - skill and experience wise - I wasn't a man when I started frigate PVP, I was a kid. It's entirely up to you to make assumptions, but don't think you know me... |
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