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Havohej
The Defias Brotherhood
ANTHRAX DEATH
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Posted - 2008.03.04 22:40:00 -
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 Originally by: Aslovi
Maybe CCP should just make a decision on this issue so we can get on with killing targets.
This. Less autonomy for GMs, more unambiguous policy regarding what is or is not an exploit. Your petition might go to a carebear0minded GM who tells you to pi$s off even after they corp hop 14 times, whereas my petition gets caught by a PvP-oriented GM who sees the 5th corp hop as excessive and acts on it.
I would also like to see a posted list of what is and is not an exploit (as mentioned by someone in another thread, or two, or three) in the "Known Issues and Workarounds" forum section - make it a nice, shiny sticky.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.04 22:49:00 -
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I think that the varied interpretations of the various GM's are part of the issue here. I would love to see a dev response on it since they are the ones putting the practices into play, and the GMs are basically policing the practices while in play.
I got almost the same exact response as you Aslovi, but I have no clue why they are still able to jump over and over. I mean they don't even wait 24 hours. They immediately jump the second they get the war email.
It's quite funny to watch actually. As soon as I see them log in, I log my alt in, I put through the war, within seconds, they have left corp, they apply into the alt corp, I see them log in their alt placeholder to accept the apps and viola, they're in a new corp and back to doing whatever it is they do.
I highly recommend anyone with a alt try this. I would love to see them jump 100 times in one month.
I do wish a dev or GM would respond to this thread to at least explain the difference between the IMune "exploit" and this being considered legal.
As I have said before, normal gameplay does not involve people jumping from the same 4 corps 15 times in 30 days. Something is definitely not right about that. If they went to 15 different corps, thats fine, but the same 4 over and over is a bit much.
I am still keeping at it though. I encourage others to participate though. Hop on the grief train with me. 
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Khoda Khan
Minmatar
Madar Kheyl tribe
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Posted - 2008.03.05 08:35:00 -
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The discussion of this exploit -- and that is what I consider this corp-jumping nonsense -- seems to have had the effect of advertising it to the general carebear population at large, based on R.E.P.O's experience since the first posting by Nexa on the subject and my own experience with our latest target doing the same. Not that I mind this getting out there, nor would I mind it if every carebear corp in EVE that finds themselves on the receiving end of a wardec puts the exploit into practice.
As is often the case with CCP, I think they have their heads buried in the sand hoping the issue just blows over. Wardec mechanics are already broken -- and have been for quite some time -- but the more carebear corps that rally around this exploit the more obvious said broken nature of wardec mechanics become. Which in turn eventually forces CCP's hand on the issue.
(Hopefully...)
It worked for iMune Empire (which we supported for much the same reasons I would now encourage every high-sec industrial corporation that becomes the target of an unwanted wardec to jump from one alt corp to the next) and it could work for this 'sploit too, given that while the methods differ the net effect of the two exploits do not differ.
My suggestion is to every post made in C&P from this point out asking for assistance against highsec wardec corps, they should be referred to this exploit and it's use encouraged. While it may in the short-term cause a few headaches for highsec PVP corps, I think it'll help achieve a CCP-resolution that much quicker. Besides, the cat's already out of the bag and it's going to become commonplace anyways at this point.
Note: All the above comments are merely my personal opinions, and should not be taken as statements of fact.
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Brother Welcome
Amarr
Icarus' Wings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.07 10:01:00 -
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Edited by: Brother Welcome on 07/03/2008 10:04:14
Edited by: Brother Welcome on 07/03/2008 10:02:06
Edited by: Brother Welcome on 07/03/2008 10:01:33
Originally by: Ja'kar
Edited by: Ja''kar on 03/03/2008 16:55:13
The 'face the danger' argument can be applied on the other side, as in: 'Face the danger, fight someone who wants to fight you.'
people like you are sooo completely dumb- you really make me sick to the core and it people like you that have ruined this game -
How about this you signed up for a hardcore pvp game - deal with it
and if ur an indy corp - hire some pvp's or something - but no, instead you whine and cheat!
you stupid f-ing idiot - leave eve and go play WOW
Also - piracy is not about fighting fair - its about profit - how you get profit is up to you...
The struggle here is to be able to understand someone else's point of view. I personally am not a miner, I hate mining. I like PvP, although I'm not very good at it. Eve PvP crystallizes around getting the other guy to fight at a time or place where you have the advantage: that's good basic use of force, and it's called local superiority.
One of the major goals of mature argumentation is to set aside logical flaws: that is, we only want to argue about things that aren't plain dumb. Just as you intimate.
The 'face the danger' argument is logically flawed when it is used to urge carebears to 'face the danger' of PvPers. You make this point well, and I agree with you. Eve is not about 'facing the danger'. Eve is about obtaining a tactical advantage and milking it.
Therefore it is nonsense to use 'face the danger' as an argument against the 4-corp sploit.
If you want my opinion of the sploit itself: of course it is nonsense to avoid wardeccing by jumping corps. In my opinion the whole 'pay Concord to look the other way' system is poorly implemented. Does it make any sense that I can just dock-up to be safe? Or switch to an alt?
On the other hand, Eve does present players with an idea that there are different kinds of space, and an idea that they will be able to enjoy the kind of gameplay they like if they choose the right space to do it in. From the econ reports it looks like a lot of players enjoy carebearing. My hunch is there is some basic flaw in the Concord/high-sec set-up that will become clear in a few years time.
Meanwhile it's comical that right now 0.0 feels a whole lot safer than high! And let's not even discuss low. I understand that a lot of players are in Eve for non-consensual PvP: indeed, that is one of the most exciting propositions Eve puts to players! Yet I refuse to regard someone as dumb just because they like to play this game a different way from me. As far as I know, they pay the same sub that I do, and if we make space too hostile to them they'll leave. Then who will we get to gank?
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ShyLinn
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Posted - 2008.03.08 21:54:00 -
[305]
I am the one all this ruckus is about. Just found out about this thread today. I will post this once to clarify what been going on from my perspective.
I will say that Traps is always polite and respectful. Im sure they are very decent peeps in RL. I do believe they try to induce trash-talk from others, knowing its a common response in-game.
Anyhow here is the story. Im a "carebear". I dont pvp. My PVP battle framerate is about 1fps, un-winable. Ive never killed, stolen, trash-talked anyone, let alone traps. I can get my jollies with the need to benefit at someone else expense.
Traps wardecced my old corp. Ganked me good. 3 warships made quick work of my unarmed hulk. Mining while wardeced? Lesson learned. lol
Since most of my corpmates were in a diff time zone, and I usually played alone anyhow, I left and formed a new corp. I was surprised when Traps then wardeced me? What possible reason? I researched traps and saw that they would probably continue to wardec me. Realizing the size of their egos, I figured I could use that against them.
Using my two accounts I formed 4 alt corps. I moved between them. Just me - my primary and my alt. 1 person. No corp offices, no corp hangars, no other members, no benefit at all really over and NPC corp. Except to annoy the hell out of Traps, and show them for the stalkers I think they are. I just knew they could not let it go that they were unable to "put me under their boot heel". A few posters here realized my game, I was not surprised that Traps never did. Its been a fun mind game for me, how long can I keep stringing them along? Thinking they would wardec all 4 corps and force me to go NPC, I was shooting for 100 wardecs by Christmas. But they slowed down, decing only 1 corp at a time. Ive revised my target downward to 50, but even that is in doubt. Even reading this post, I don't think their egos will allow them to drop it.
As I see it, im doing a public service. Each wardec they have on me, is one they cant be using on some other poor noob corp who has more targets, and they may actually profit from. Thats been my way of griefing them.
Gaven Blands appears to be wthe most astute poster as he saw exactly what ive been doing. Its been their choice to pursue me. As i suspected Pride and Ego are ruling over common sense. They can keep stalking me as long as they wish, just keep those wardecs coming to me, I dont mind really :)
Shylynn
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Carebear Trader
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:34:00 -
[306]
Originally by: ShyLinn
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:09:00
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:06:13
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:03:42
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:01:26
I am the one all this ruckus is about. Just found out about this thread today. I will post this once to clarify what been going on from my perspective.
I will say that Traps is always polite and respectful. Im sure they are very decent peeps in RL. I do believe they try to induce trash-talk from others, knowing its a common response in-game.
Anyhow here is the story. Im a "carebear". I dont pvp. My PVP battle framerate is about 1fps, un-winable. Ive never killed, stolen, trash-talked anyone, let alone traps. I can get my jollies with the need to benefit at someone else expense.
Traps wardecced my old corp. Ganked me good. 3 warships made quick work of my unarmed hulk. Mining while wardeced? Lesson learned. lol
Since most of my corpmates were in a diff time zone, and I usually played alone anyhow, I left and formed a new corp. I was surprised when Traps then wardeced me? What possible reason? I never spoke to them. Never had anything to do with them. I researched traps and saw that they would probably continue to wardec me. Realizing the size of their egos, I figured I could use that against them. They enjoy two things. Combat and chatter with the enemy. I would deny them both.
Using my two accounts I formed 4 alt corps. I made it clear from the corp names that I was not intereted in PVP. I moved between them. Just me - my primary and my alt. 1 person. No corp offices, no corp hangars, no other members, no benefit at all really over and NPC corp. Except to annoy the hell out of Traps, and show them for the stalkers I think they are. My only goal was to get their shorts in a twist. This thread seem to indicate I was right on target. I just knew they could not let it go that they were unable to "put me under their boot heel". A few posters here realized my game, I was surprised that Traps never did. I do consider their stalking a single player a little strange, but to each his own I guess. Its been a fun mind game for me, how long can I keep stringing them along? Thinking they would wardec all 4 corps and force me to go NPC, I was shooting for 100 wardecs by Christmas. But they slowed down, decing only 1 corp at a time. Ive revised my target downward to 50, but even that is in doubt. Even reading this post, I don't think their egos will allow them to drop it.
As I see it, im doing a public service. Each wardec they have on me, is one they cant be using on some other poor noob corp who has more targets, and they may actually profit from. Thats been my way of griefing them.
Gaven Blands appears to be wthe most astute poster as he saw exactly what ive been doing. Its been their choice to pursue me. As i suspected Pride and Ego are ruling over common sense. They can keep stalking me as long as they wish, just keep those wardecs coming to me, I dont mind really :)
Shylinn
Thx for clarifying that, I've been following this since the first thread that got closed. The impression Nexa gave me was that the Blacktalon mining corp were jumping en-masse daily to the alt corps. tbh it doesn't surprise me she exaggerated the situation, since I've since read some of her stories and other postings on forums since; seems to crave attention above all else.
Now time to apply t2 thermal hardeners, nexa fanboi Ki-an will probably start mauling his keyboard in a rage within several minutes of me posting this 
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:11:00 -
[307]
Originally by: ShyLinn
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:09:00
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:06:13
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:03:42
Edited by: ShyLinn on 08/03/2008 22:01:26
I will say that Traps is always polite and respectful. Im sure they are very decent peeps in RL. I do believe they try to induce trash-talk from others, knowing its a common response in-game.
Thanks, we try to be.
Originally by: ShyLinn
Anyhow here is the story. Im a "carebear". I dont pvp. My PVP battle framerate is about 1fps, un-winable. Ive never killed, stolen, trash-talked anyone, let alone traps. I can get my jollies with the need to benefit at someone else expense.
At least dont lie to the audience.
http://traps.griefwatch.net/?p=details&kill=2375
Hmm, innocent non-pvp miner in a arbi cruise Raven. Uh huh. I see.
Originally by: ShyLinn
Never had anything to do with them.
Hmm, I guess we had nothing to do with you either. We popped your Hulk and you popped a Taranis. So if you get to pop ships and claim you had nothing to do with us, then we get to do the same, right?
Originally by: ShyLinn
just keep those wardecs coming to me, I dont mind really :)
We will actually. Wait till you see what happens next week.
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ShyLinn
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Posted - 2008.03.09 04:17:00 -
[308]
I stand corrected on the ship kill, my apologies. Though it wasnt me that laid the final blow. Nirtulys was an ore thief, harrased me while I was mining. I had forgotten about him. I called for backup from my corp mates. He was my impetus for starting an alt to haul. After that incident I started ignoring ore thieves. Nexa, if you could link to the taranis kill, I would appreciate it, as I dont recall that battle. The Raven is my mission ship.
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ShyLinn
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Posted - 2008.03.09 04:51:00 -
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I now see that he was a member of traps, and he was flying the Taranis. I didnt realize his corp affiliation before. Hmm perhaps his ore thieving IS what started this whole thing. And our response. I guess you do have cause to continue war decing me. Although if he had not ore thieved in the first place...
Anyhow, to be fair, given that I DID shoot several missiles at him and one other traps player, if you want to war dec my current corp, I wont change corps, other than to NPC. Thank you for correcting me on this account.
Shylinn
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Ayan Abashi
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:35:00 -
[310]
Edited by: Ayan Abashi on 09/03/2008 09:35:41
This is an alt made for posting in forums.
First let me sum up the situation: some 15-16 yrs old bullies wants to beat the s**t out some 8-9 yrs old kids. So they are waiting them at the school gate. They get mad when they find out that the kids used other gate, and start guarding both. Tough luck, the kids have a lot of gates to escape their beatings.
So what the bullies do? They run to the school director and ask him to lock all the gates so they can finally kick the kid's butts, because they had their share of kicks and slaps when they were younger too.
The director thinks: those guys are right... But on the other hand, are a lot of new kids in the school, and they are paying as well. Screw the old guys and old customs and old ways, let's give the kids a bit of protection...
My point is: there is something called evolution... maybe the policies are changing, maybe developers views are changing, maybe things are getting out of veteran players hand. Maybe is time for you to leave EVE and let others to play it. In their own style.
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The Icefox
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:28:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Gaven Blands
Originally by: M'ing Pai
While I appreciate what they are doing is lame and whatnot, it isn't lame if they are are doing specifically to wind you up.
Anyone here familiar with the term Cold War. The first thing you do when going to war that is when initiating a war is to determine the strength of your opponent and determine the best method for combating them. All wars are not fought with bullets. If your enemy is small and lacks resources you choose a strategy that taxes them economically, in this case your opponent has chosen to cost you 2 million per wardec indefinitely.
They have probably chosen this method because they know they can't win in a straight fight. This and your response tells me two things. 1. That your opponent is smarter than you. 2. You failed to adapt. Instead you petitioned.
In the real world when some one thwarts you (since you like real world examples) you don't get to petition a GM. If the enemy runs away. You get to chase them. Or you don't get to shoot them. So rather than complaining about the mechanic which the GM's have stated is NOT an exploit why not adapt.
If they are still mining in the same area then hurt them in their wallet instead. Get in a mining barge mine off the same roid they have their lasers target on and cancel your cycles early when the rocks are low on resources. You will steal the last cycle of every rock from them + whatever you manage to mine undercut their prices. If they sell ore in a nearby station gank their customers. Get a fleet of frigates and bump them off their rocks follow them from belt to belt and do it. Suicide Gank them, better yet put a plant in their corp let him get in real good and then steal everything they own might take a year but it'll be lulzy when it happens. Basically what I'm saying is stop thinking with your mouth and your blasters and start thinking with the grey matter between your ears.
tl;dr, Intelligence, Espionage, Guerrilla Warfare.
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Ki An
Gallente
Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.03.09 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: The Icefox
Anyone here familiar with the term Cold War.
I remember the cold war. That was the war where the USA declared war on Soviet Russia and Russia quickly changed their name to "No fight country", whereby USA declared war on that and "No fight country" changed their name again to "No fight country 2". USA declared war on "No fight country 2" who changed their name to "No fight Country 3". Now USA couldn't declare any more wars because 3 wars where all they where allowed by the UN. So, the USA dropped their war on Soviet Russia and declared war on "No fight country 3", but then "No fight country 3 completed their Maskirovka and changed their name back to Soviet Russia again, thus depriving the USA of their war.
That's how the Cold War happened, right?
Filiolus of Bellum is recruiting
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Quelque Chose
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:09:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: The Icefox
Anyone here familiar with the term Cold War.
I remember the cold war. That was the war where the USA declared war on Soviet Russia and Russia quickly changed their name to "No fight country", whereby USA declared war on that and "No fight country" changed their name again to "No fight country 2". USA declared war on "No fight country 2" who changed their name to "No fight Country 3". Now USA couldn't declare any more wars because 3 wars where all they where allowed by the UN. So, the USA dropped their war on Soviet Russia and declared war on "No fight country 3", but then "No fight country 3 completed their Maskirovka and changed their name back to Soviet Russia again, thus depriving the USA of their war.
That's how the Cold War happened, right?
Close. You left out the part where the US had to pay off Teh Space Poleece to look the other way.
Empire corp != sovereign entity and is therefore subject to all sorts of egregious horse****.
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Krabb Foot
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Posted - 2008.03.09 12:47:00 -
[314]
Alt Corp thiefs being created as we speak.A few weeks of mission running and I will be ready to befriend those that think pirats are lame bullys and stealz their stuff..
All your Corp Hangars are belonging to me.
this is a backlash against those that want Eve changed.
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 18:39:00 -
[315]
Originally by: ShyLinn
I now see that he was a member of traps, and he was flying the Taranis. I didnt realize his corp affiliation before. Hmm perhaps his ore thieving IS what started this whole thing. And our response. I guess you do have cause to continue war decing me. Although if he had not ore thieved in the first place...
Anyhow, to be fair, given that I DID shoot several missiles at him and one other traps player, if you want to war dec my current corp, I wont change corps, other than to NPC. Thank you for correcting me on this account.
Shylinn
What makes me laugh is that when CCCP and BMC members asked me what was the impetus for the war, I told them of that encounter and they called me a liar. Based simply on the fact I don't follow their play style. Not very nice, not very smart.
Sure, my guy took your ore. Sure you came back and killed him. Fair enough. The problem stemmed from when he asked for his exotic dancer back, he was refused. I asked for it back as well and was told "we have no clue who you are and we never killed your people, you're a liar and a pirate sleazebag!"
So I had no choice but to start a war. After the war started I asked for the dancer back along with 100mil. I was met only with smack talk and insults, no diplomacy.
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 19:13:00 -
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Edited by: Exlegion on 09/03/2008 19:14:36
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Sure, my guy took your ore. Sure you came back and killed him. Fair enough. The problem stemmed from when he asked for his exotic dancer back, he was refused. I asked for it back as well and was told "we have no clue who you are and we never killed your people, you're a liar and a pirate sleazebag!"
A bit off topic, but:
Out of curiousity, if your corp member (the ore thief) would have stolen the ore and/or destroyed/killed the pilot, would have the victim gotten his stuff back if he'd politely asked for it back?
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Carebear Trader
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Posted - 2008.03.09 19:43:00 -
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Is this person for real? Your corp lose a ship due to their own fault and then you expect the loot back plus 100 mil as an apology.
"I was met only with smack talk and insults, no diplomacy."
blah, blah....... always the exact same story with you. As far as I know, traps doesn't do diplomacy. Either that or they just regard diplomacy as people paying them fat wads of isk.... 
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Hexperience
Amarr
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 19:56:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Exlegion
Edited by: Exlegion on 09/03/2008 19:18:57
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Sure, my guy took your ore. Sure you came back and killed him. Fair enough. The problem stemmed from when he asked for his exotic dancer back, he was refused. I asked for it back as well and was told "we have no clue who you are and we never killed your people, you're a liar and a pirate sleazebag!"
A bit off topic, but:
Out of curiousity, if your corp member (the ore thief) would have stolen the ore and/or destroyed/killed the pilot, would have the victim gotten his stuff back had he politely asked for it back?
Do you usually ask for your wrecks/loot back when the fights you instigate don't go your way?
It was not "stuff", they kidnapped our exotic dancer Ingrid and now they are paying the price.
Don't you dare call Ingrid for "stuff", she is a very sensitive person and we love her very much.
The "ransom" is, of course, to pay for her therapy after this horrible traumatic experience. 
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 20:14:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Hexperience
It was not "stuff", they kidnapped our exotic dancer Ingrid and now they are paying the price.
Don't you dare call Ingrid for "stuff", she is a very sensitive person and we love her very much.
The "ransom" is, of course, to pay for her therapy after this horrible traumatic experience.
You're right and I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget strippers have feelings as well. My sincere apologies to Ingrid  .
One of us equals many of us. Disrespect one of us, you'll see plenty of us. - Gang Starr |
Hexperience
Amarr
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 20:27:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Exlegion
Edited by: Exlegion on 09/03/2008 20:19:25
Originally by: Hexperience
It was not "stuff", they kidnapped our exotic dancer Ingrid and now they are paying the price.
Don't you dare call Ingrid for "stuff", she is a very sensitive person and we love her very much.
The "ransom" is, of course, to pay for her therapy after this horrible traumatic experience.
You're right and I'm sorry. Sometimes I forget strippers have feelings too. My sincere apologies to Ingrid .
For that sincere apology you've just earned a lapdance from dear Ingrid (we just need to get her back). Hehe 
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Lief Siddhe
Gallente
University of Caille
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Posted - 2008.03.09 21:02:00 -
[321]
Are you saying that all of this started because of a woman's boobs and long legs?
Sheesh. I mean, I knew women could stir up trouble planetside, but to have it all come down in EVE...
So basically now we have a new and highly controversial war-evading mechanic, involvement from CCP officials, a bunch of replies and arguments from a small army of players - and it's all happening because of a pixel stripper.
Epic, 10/10
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 21:11:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Carebear Trader
Is this person for real? Your corp lose a ship due to their own fault and then you expect the loot back plus 100 mil as an apology.
"I was met only with smack talk and insults, no diplomacy."
blah, blah....... always the exact same story with you. As far as I know, traps doesn't do diplomacy. Either that or they just regard diplomacy as people paying them fat wads of isk....
No, if you read it correctly, we asked for the dancer back first. After our request was ignored by some and met with smack talk by others, then we put the dec in.
You don't seem to get that we don't care if people dec us. If you run a mining/mission outfit and don't care for pvp, then diplomacy might be worth a shot.
Do you know how many times I was asked why the war started? It's ridiculous. Every time I explained it, they smack talked.
It doesn't hurt to ask for loot back. It doesn't mean you will get it but I've given back loot plenty of times.
Regardless of why the war started you have to evaluate whether or not you want a war in these situations. Was the 100k of ore flipped worth the billions lost? Not likely.
Such is Eve and to me, why Eve is fun. You have to be willing to accept consequences. What were the consequences for us? Their friends dec'd us, mercs decd us, their alliance friends tried to blob us and drop caps on us. No complaints here. No corp jumping, no running, no excuses. Was the 100k of ore worth it for us? Definitely, we're having a blast.
One day, try posting with your main at least.
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Hexperience
Amarr
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lief Siddhe
Are you saying that all of this started because of a woman's boobs and long legs?
Sheesh. I mean, I knew women could stir up trouble planetside, but to have it all come down in EVE...
So basically now we have a new and highly controversial war-evading mechanic, involvement from CCP officials, a bunch of replies and arguments from a small army of players - and it's all happening because of a pixel stripper.
Epic, 10/10
My replies was on the, so to say - lighter note of things.
And hey, how do you know that Ingrid has long legs??? 
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Exlegion
New Light
Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 22:07:00 -
[324]
Edited by: Exlegion on 09/03/2008 22:08:04
Originally by: Hexperience
For that sincere apology you've just earned a lapdance from dear Ingrid (we just need to get her back). Hehe
WIN \o/
(See my sig )
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Hexperience
Amarr
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.09 23:00:00 -
[325]
Originally by: Exlegion
Edited by: Exlegion on 09/03/2008 22:08:04
Originally by: Hexperience
For that sincere apology you've just earned a lapdance from dear Ingrid (we just need to get her back). Hehe
WIN \o/
(See my sig )
Hehehe, nice one.
No touching! Remember that!
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Carebear Trader
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Posted - 2008.03.09 23:40:00 -
[326]
Originally by: Nexa Necis
Originally by: Carebear Trader
Is this person for real? Your corp lose a ship due to their own fault and then you expect the loot back plus 100 mil as an apology.
"I was met only with smack talk and insults, no diplomacy."
blah, blah....... always the exact same story with you. As far as I know, traps doesn't do diplomacy. Either that or they just regard diplomacy as people paying them fat wads of isk....
No, if you read it correctly, we asked for the dancer back first. After our request was ignored by some and met with smack talk by others, then we put the dec in.
You don't seem to get that we don't care if people dec us. If you run a mining/mission outfit and don't care for pvp, then diplomacy might be worth a shot.
Do you know how many times I was asked why the war started? It's ridiculous. Every time I explained it, they smack talked.
It doesn't hurt to ask for loot back. It doesn't mean you will get it but I've given back loot plenty of times.
Regardless of why the war started you have to evaluate whether or not you want a war in these situations. Was the 100k of ore flipped worth the billions lost? Not likely.
Such is Eve and to me, why Eve is fun. You have to be willing to accept consequences. What were the consequences for us? Their friends dec'd us, mercs decd us, their alliance friends tried to blob us and drop caps on us. No complaints here. No corp jumping, no running, no excuses. Was the 100k of ore worth it for us? Definitely, we're having a blast.
One day, try posting with your main at least.
'Every time I explained it, they smack talked.' - lol, that's probably because most people wouldn't believe the reason for a wardec was the looting of a worthless item in combat. Well, tbh I think you would have found any excuse to wardec them anyways, you've often stated in forums here that you wardec many of your targets at random.
Anyways, I always love the irony of you calling on all those using alts on the forums to post with their mains. Your empire wars seem to rely a lot on you using anonymous multiple alt probing accounts to take out your targets. I don't criticise that, so you don't criticise who I choose to post with.
Or are you just looking for my main's ID so you can start another fight?
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Nexa Necis
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.10 00:47:00 -
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See thats one of the things with carebears. They think you need some deep rooted, valid, viable, and solid reason to declare war. The beauty of is you need no reason.
Yes we do random decs. There's no sense in lying about that, I've always been up front about it.
It's just I find it amusing that people automatically assume you're a liar because you're a pirate.
Even those times where we dec a corp and it's got a actual reason behind it, they still whine about it.
You have to use alts when hunting people who don't want to fight. I guess you have to use alts here to avoid fights. I would dec your corp or alliance for fun if I knew your main.
I'd dec a lot of people. Actually I would add them to our to-do list.
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Brother Welcome
Amarr
Icarus' Wings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.10 11:08:00 -
[328]
Originally by: Ki An
Originally by: The Icefox
Anyone here familiar with the term Cold War.
I remember the cold war. That was the war where the USA declared war on Soviet Russia and Russia quickly changed their name to "No fight country", whereby USA declared war on that and "No fight country" changed their name again to "No fight country 2". USA declared war on "No fight country 2" who changed their name to "No fight Country 3". Now USA couldn't declare any more wars because 3 wars where all they where allowed by the UN. So, the USA dropped their war on Soviet Russia and declared war on "No fight country 3", but then "No fight country 3 completed their Maskirovka and changed their name back to Soviet Russia again, thus depriving the USA of their war.
That's how the Cold War happened, right?
Close. Both Alliances used proxy Corps to wardec smaller Alliances in the Constellations where those parties held Sov. Smart! If the situation got hurty on their side, they shed the dec by dropping the proxy.
Eve is 'N00b War' by comparison. Luke warm rather than icy.
-vk
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MushMush
Minmatar
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:09:00 -
[329]
It was not "stuff", they kidnapped our exotic dancer Ingrid and now they are paying the price.
Don't you dare call Ingrid for "stuff", she is a very sensitive person and we love her very much.
The "ransom" is, of course, to pay for her therapy after this horrible traumatic experience.
I want Ingrid back. She was the only girl who could ever see past my hideous face 
Of course she was missing an eye which gave her problems with depth perception...
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Fire Talisman
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:48:00 -
[330]
My Recommendation? Biomass Ingrid.
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