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Trent Cooper
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Posted - 2004.04.01 03:01:00 -
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I think the newspaper and current events keep the Eve universe alive and rich. Even more so, I want to participate in roleplay events. I analyse every piece of news and read inbetween the lines. I ask around for rumours and such. I browse the "events" forum. But I NEVER see a real opportunity to get in to an event. Its a big gaming universe i know. Not everybody can be the "star" and not every gamer can be catered for with a limited number of gamemaster resources. However............
Either the hints are just too subtle. Or Trent is just too dumb. Or are roleplay events only available to the elite crowd? The in-crowd. CCP only secretly chooses the select few corporations to participate in particular dramas?
Take the Quafe Ultra storyline. It more or less waffled on for about a week about a new drink, controversial advertisement and movie. I wondered how and when it would come to a point. I thought it was going to be a profitable trade opportunity; 2 or 3 days of quafe ultra boom, where all ends of the galaxy paid ridiculous prices for the product. Scouring the markets around the expected release date revealed no stock available. even at quafe headquarters. I expect the product may be released. BUt, as usual, the profit margin and volume of the stock will probably be dismal as to not be worth any merchants time. So then i thought - okay. Theres going to be a battle between conservitives and gallenteans. I watched and I watched. Eventually a likely place and time was published. The showing of the Ultra movie. The venue was unspecified. How the heck was i supposed to show up??? Now i hear there was a battle and i missed everything. HOw exactly was I supposed to involve myself? I would have liked to have shown up and seen all the ships and explosions atleast. I Waded through that dreadful news for nothing.
So Im thinking that roleplay and eve plot isnt generally available to the common player. Or atleast its too difficult to get involved with. Forgive me, I am a decendant of the Jumpgate* generation. Roleplay was central in that game and anybody who wanted to pitch in could. The roleplay events lasted for atleast 2-14 days and were broad enough to recruit a large amount of players. THere was always a published initiative for your race to complete. SOME events were secretive and elite. But there was always something for the humble player to get involved with. And then there's eve. Where it says something is going to happen at an "undisclosed location". Next day - "oh too bad. The week long build up just climaxed at an event you just missed! Sorry, you just werent cool enough..."
Whats the deal with eve?
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2004.04.01 05:08:00 -
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Quote: I think the newspaper and current events keep the Eve universe alive and rich. Even more so, I want to participate in roleplay events. I analyse every piece of news and read inbetween the lines. I ask around for rumours and such. I browse the "events" forum. But I NEVER see a real opportunity to get in to an event. Its a big gaming universe i know. Not everybody can be the "star" and not every gamer can be catered for with a limited number of gamemaster resources. However............
You can not involve yourself after the fashion you may wish to do. CCP has absolute control of the storyline arc. Many fo the news items you find may have, or may not have, storyline impact. It is the unknown in that regard that CCP jealously hoards... and rightly so.
Quote: Either the hints are just too subtle. Or Trent is just too dumb. Or are roleplay events only available to the elite crowd? The in-crowd. CCP only secretly chooses the select few corporations to participate in particular dramas?
The Events team, who may feel free to pop in please, is very ecumenical. I have flown through systems where an event was being coordinated. Becuase I was on a short schedule for gaming I could not join in but it was there. I've been there for the player generated event of the prayer meeting for the old deceased emperor.
Any rp content that you can be apart of freely, without strings attached, is player made content. Join up with an RP grouping, corporation or start your own. Events can be created, =have= been created, that are of substantial value to the participants.
I will tell you, do =not= look to CCP for that. CCP made the playground for us. Roles to play, wars to fight, wrongs to right, passions to express, and indignacies to commit... all are made, shared, and cherished by us, for us, to us.
Quote: So Im thinking that roleplay and eve plot isnt generally available to the common player. Or atleast its too difficult to get involved with. Forgive me, I am a decendant of the Jumpgate* generation. Roleplay was central in that game and anybody who wanted to pitch in could.
It is very difficult... CCP has created content for players to involve themselves in, hmmmm....., twice I think. In the big one was the chance for a select few to make for themselves a stellar reputation. The other one was more of an event based around an ongoing battle.... a stop the hoardes situation.
I would offer, as a guess, that CCP's reluctance to promote and hold rp events is based around absolute fairness. Is it fair to have people who happen to have the time for a particular event suddenly leap past others who don't?
Some people do not play on the weekends for a variety of reasons, should they be penalized for that?
Some people can not play during the week, again same question?
There are numerous gradiations and exclusions that can apply. CCP eliminates 99.9% of them with thier policy. And let's not even get into the claims of favoritism because one GM awards a "good" roleplayer something...
Quote: Whats the deal with eve?
The deal with Eve... hmm.... more people know Jack Fool then Jack Fool knows. (Your honor I object to that, relevance!).
Ok I retract that... Hmmmm... How about a majority of eve players are addicted? Take the game very seriously and allow for no one to get a free ride. Not from any idealism, no matter how I try to fool myself, but from the fact of "if I can't get a free ride well then they can't either!"
Of course if you want to be part of something... well just click on that there picture coming up after this. I've found that working my role, as a reporter, is one of great satisfaction. I help to create content as well as gather in existing content lingering around.
RP is mental. Has been when I was playing D&D and Tunnels & Trolls. Is today. And it is more than just attacking someone becuase they are Amarran and you are Minmataran.
PS: LOL ... "tunnels and trolls"... I just realized that game may have stuck with me... for these days I play "forums and trolls".
Eve Guardian - Former Reporter
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MooKids
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Posted - 2004.04.01 05:13:00 -
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Well, there are actually two stories going on. One story is the one that CCP releases and has preplanned for months ahead of time. Stories like Quafe and the mind control chips were all planned out ahead of time. And it might not seem like it, but if you read the EVE chronlicles and stories, you start to get the idea that every CCP story is tied together.
Then, there is the player created story. I'm not talking about the stories in the RP forum, I'm talking about in game actions. Such things as the m0o invasion of Fountain Alliance, the rumor of TTI performing an aggressive market control over the once rare and coveted Miner 2s. These player alliances, wars and such have created a very interesting story in game as most of it just happens at random. You just have to watch the forums and chat channels for what is going on. It is very much possible for one person to make a serious impact on all of EVE, you just have to have a lot of influence.
There are even the rare occasions that the CCP story will even change to player actions. Not just anyone can do it though. -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity. |

Dallenn
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Posted - 2004.04.01 09:30:00 -
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Edited by: Dallenn on 01/04/2004 09:34:18 Player actions and the CCP storyline maybe should have more involvement so it's more dynamic and hangs together better, maybe not easy to do though...
The CCP material is mostly just a background, exploit it for RP the way you see best. My char couldn't care less for all the Quafe ads but this microcontroller thing is something that will affect opinions, reactions and discussions.
Frankly, I also wouldn't like too strong positioning from the part of CCP for my char and RP. I like to make up stuff myself, set up my own goals. CCP just provides the stubs to get started. Eventually it's how well the player RP can be made to work, and how much effort people put in their characters and how their actions fit into the background and storyline.
We seek the Chosen ones / Roleplaying in Eve / Idea Lab favourites
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Hardin
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Posted - 2004.04.01 10:52:00 -
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A lot of the event RP in EVE involves being in the right place at the right time.
I myself have participated in 2 RP 'events' in the last month simply because I was around and available when something started to happen.
Slave farm owner blockaded in Minmatar space Imperial envoy to Sansha
It is often useful to hang round with other roleplayers as this increases your chances of finding out what is going on.
A lot of players got involved in the 'party' last night as they were in the know as a result of unoffical RP network based around the 'La Maison' channel.
I personally made a point of not going as believe Quafe Ultra is decadent and undermining traditions of our nation but through friends and contacts I knew where the system was and had the option to go along and observe things had I so wished.
I suggest you may consider joining some of the RP corps... Also read the Scope section regularly - small events often kick off with things posted there (Though it doesn't happen that often) and also keep an eye on the Intergalactic Summit.
Make freinds - network and eventually you will start finding out about these things... I believe they are not widely advertised because when +200 pilots head to one system it makes the whole thing so laggy that it destroys the entire experience. It also tends to attract griefers...
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2004.04.01 13:55:00 -
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Another option is to join the various racial channels - I know for a fact that there are channels called "Amarr" and "Minmatar", and I'm pretty sure that their Caldari and Gallente equivalents exist too. These are great places to get to know other people and keep abreast of interstallar news.
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Trent Cooper
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Posted - 2004.04.06 11:46:00 -
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thanks. i'll give those channels a go and ask around
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