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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.16 11:41:00 -
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EVE Online: Crucible 1.2 has been deployed successfully. This update introduces considerable performance improvements to the overview, text rendering and window management as well as fixes for the UI and the Mac client. The full patch notes are available here.
This thread is for general feedback. If you encounter any issues please use the Crucible 1.2 issues thread here. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
2507
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:02:00 -
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Still no minimizing button on chat request windows... sad panda
/c
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Brunmunde Hildegaard
The Green Machine
4
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:05:00 -
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Chribba wrote:Still no minimizing button on chat request windows... sad panda /c
Only popular cool people like you Chribba would get any real use out of them
I'm glad I don't get spammed with convo invites lol |
Dsan
x13 Raiden.
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:07:00 -
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Theres always the setting to deny all incoming requests.
Then people can send a mail and you can convo them, just saying... Go read my blog at: www.eveblog.dsan.dk
Or follow me on twitter: http://twitter.com/Dsan_dk |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
920
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:08:00 -
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Apart from overview tab widths reset, absolutely brilliant work with the optimizations. The performance of the client is way better than before and having multiple windows open doesn't tax CPU almost all any more.
I was expecting to get top quality from team which knows how to deliver and that they did.
Thank you - you guys can be proud of the work you do. It really makes a difference.
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Ammzi
Imperial Guardians The Aurora Shadow
816
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:11:00 -
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I love it! No lagg in bookmarks, no lagg when scrolling through several hundred names of local.
Brilliant! quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Jenshae Chiroptera
444
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:12:00 -
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Can has static images for race selection and start screen plz?
Ooooh ... ooo and AND can disabling Incarna features be complete? Not to mention checking that systems unload correctly. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Bubanni
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:49:00 -
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+1 from me CCP overview updates are always welcomes, and I suggest working some more on brackets in future also? reduce the need for people to turn them off in large fleet fights (specially drone brackets "Its nice to be able to see the swarm of drones heading towards you") - maybe allow seeing more information on a selected ship (on the brackets) such as speed, distance, maybe even rad/sec(angular velocity or so) |
Funkert
Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:51:00 -
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I just played around a bit, and so far I really dislike the fact that mouseover locks your overview.
Think about it. when you're in space, at least half the time your mouse is on your overview meaning its locked half the time. In small fights it will be a hell to see who is closest, who warped off, who warped in, etc
And i dont even want to think about what it does to missions/plexes/incursions where you have about 50 targets or 1000 man fleet battles.
what the hell was wrong with the old system, when holding ctrl locked it? that made sense. you only hold ctrl if you're gonna lock something and thats the only time you need the overview to stop moving. |
Palovana
Inner Fire Inc.
106
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Posted - 2012.02.16 12:52:00 -
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Fitting screen loads so much faster now, it seems about 4x its previous speed. Please support: export of settings in editable format
Your stuff goes here. |
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Jonny Frost
Malicious Destruction War Against the Manifest
3
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:36:00 -
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Optimization is better - much better so good job. Although fixing one thing seems to have broke others.
Mouse hover for the overview to stop updating is horrible. In incursions its just a pain. The mouse is almost always over the overview!
Overview widths - the tag column for example needs to be twice the size of the tags, let us shrink as small as we desire. |
Frenzerelly
Project-Phoenix Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:24:00 -
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The game pretty much became unplayable for me on this computer.
Why is it that my video card resets after I dock or jump through a portal? Does anyone else see these kind of issues? Now even my local screen disappears on me, or is completely becomes unreadable. Even after I made sure my video driver is of the latest version.
Sigh! I am about to give up on this game! |
Superpongo
Masterminds Industries Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:16:00 -
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Hi All,
In December 1st 2011, I did a Petition regarding an issue that prevented dividends from being paid out to corporation members.
You tell me that you are looking into fixing it.
After 2 Months in the patch note of Crucible 1.1.2 you wrote that you have fix that problem, but after the patch the problem has not been fixed.
I did another petion dated 01/30/2012 and you ask me to do a Bug reports.
I did a bug report dated 02/03/2012 that you has not yet been filtered.
Now after the new patch Crucible 1.2 the problem has not benn fixed.
So, I would like to know If you want to fix it.
Best regards, |
Vrykolakasis
Trinity Operations Aurora Irae
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:40:00 -
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I liked the mini-images of turrets instead of icons that we had a while back, and I remember them being removed because they were taking too long to load. I don't remember the details so I may be off-base, but do the client improvements open up the possibility of getting those back? |
Eyor
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:52:00 -
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yet another annoying patch that destroys things that weren't broken to begin with. why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult. clearly these patches are made by people who don't actually play the game. |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
921
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:54:00 -
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Vrykolakasis wrote:I liked the mini-images of turrets instead of icons that we had a while back, and I remember them being removed because they were taking too long to load. I don't remember the details so I may be off-base, but do the client improvements open up the possibility of getting those back? They were removed because they were blurry blobs in space and very few could actually tell what they represent. Icons are much clearer and give the important information out with less eye balling. There is a reason why they don't use photographs in road signs either.
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
921
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:57:00 -
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Eyor wrote:why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult.. Why? New targets still keep appearing to end of the list even you're hoovering over the OV. It just doesn't get sorted before you move your cursor out. This should make it actually much easier to target the pod or guy who appears from cloak.
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Disdaine
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:57:00 -
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I rea... h... t... n... trunca... overiv... colu...
Y... c... a... g... a... su... d...
F... Y... |
Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
921
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Posted - 2012.02.16 15:59:00 -
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Disdaine wrote:I rea... h... t... n... trunca... overiv... colu...
Y... c... a... g... a... su... d...
F... Y... Yep those dots are sort of wasted space.
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Eyor
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:02:00 -
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Grey Stormshadow wrote:Eyor wrote:why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult.. Why? New targets still keep appearing to end of the list even you're hoovering over the OV. It just doesn't get sorted before you move your cursor out. This should make it actually much easier to target the pod or guy who appears from cloak.
um.....................no. it makes it infinitely more difficult. before, if you sorted your overview by range and you blew up a ship that was closest to you, the pod would appear in the same spot (obviously because the pod would be at the same range as you)
but now, once the ship blows up, the ghosted bracket of the now deceased ship will stay there and the pod will whip itself at the very bottom of the overview. you could lock the overview from sorting by holding down the "ctrl" button before this patch. why change it to all the time? |
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Grey Stormshadow
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
921
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:12:00 -
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Eyor wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Eyor wrote:why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult.. Why? New targets still keep appearing to end of the list even you're hoovering over the OV. It just doesn't get sorted before you move your cursor out. This should make it actually much easier to target the pod or guy who appears from cloak. um.....................no. it makes it infinitely more difficult. before, if you sorted your overview by range and you blew up a ship that was closest to you, the pod would appear in the same spot (obviously because the pod would be at the same range as you) but now, once the ship blows up, the ghosted bracket of the now deceased ship will stay there and the pod will whip itself at the very bottom of the overview. you could lock the overview from sorting by holding down the "ctrl" button before this patch. why change it to all the time?
Only bad thing is that some people (apparently quite many, but not myself included) tend to select target 1st and click their shortcut buttons after. Toggle key didn't work for them and now after OV refreshes faster... having no lock at all is kinda bad for them.
I tend to push my shortcut keys before selecting stuff from overview so this shouldn't be big problem, but still having only ctrl as OV-lock toggle key would give me hard time playing with my approach, warp to and similar buttons. I would be miss clicking pretty heavily if targets were sorting around with improved speed.
Dunno if there is any other good solutions available... perhaps slowed down update speed while mousing over + traditional lock would work too. Only certain thing is that having only the ctrl as toggle isn't quite enough any more.
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Ris Dnalor
Black Rebel Rifter Club
210
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:17:00 -
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AGAIN,
CCP changes something, without making it optional. If people were doing fine with manually freezing overview with the control-key, wtf do they force those people to change?
Personally I'm o.k. with the changes so far ( haven't tested them in combat yet ), but why not let people toggle the **** off if they don't want it?
Sandbox? or Cinderblock? Save the Miners! |
dooplex
R.O.I.N 6th Sense
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:18:00 -
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Eyor wrote:Grey Stormshadow wrote:Eyor wrote:why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult.. Why? New targets still keep appearing to end of the list even you're hoovering over the OV. It just doesn't get sorted before you move your cursor out. This should make it actually much easier to target the pod or guy who appears from cloak. um.....................no. it makes it infinitely more difficult. before, if you sorted your overview by range and you blew up a ship that was closest to you, the pod would appear in the same spot (obviously because the pod would be at the same range as you) but now, once the ship blows up, the ghosted bracket of the now deceased ship will stay there and the pod will whip itself at the very bottom of the overview. you could lock the overview from sorting by holding down the "ctrl" button before this patch. why change it to all the time?
I completely agree, the mousover lock is completely unnecessary and idiotic. CTRL was a perfectly fine mechanic, why the need to change it?
Please revert this as soon as possible, thanks in advance.
Apart from that and the (Abc...) phenomenom, you did a good job. Performance is noticeably improved.
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Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:21:00 -
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Funkert wrote:what the hell was wrong with the old system, when holding ctrl locked it? that made sense. you only hold ctrl if you're gonna lock something and thats the only time you need the overview to stop moving. Clearly you've never gone to right-click to broadcast and had a different element slip under your click, screwing the whole fleet up. Not everyone is locking the target they're trying to select.
That said, the freeze-on-mouseover is flawed with high priority new entries appearing typically far from previous ones.
Posting this suggestion here too: Can we please have an option to have the overview populated from the bottom up. This is different to just changing your sort order, as it means you can resize the overview down and the entries will be anchored down with it, rather than simply growing space and forcing you to move up to the top of the screen for the higest priorty entries per sort order (typically distance), or to a dynamic, shifting absolute screen position for reversed sort, assuming your overview has sufficient space to fit them.
ATM reversed sort and having the rest of your useful UI at the bottom (default cap+modules, cargo, many people's selected item window and locked targets) means the only reason to head up to the top half of the screen is for the overview, and with reversed sort and enough entries your target entry might also need you to first scroll the bar too. All because there's no option to simply populate from the bottom up as opposed to top down.
Why have repositionable Selected window and locked targets icons without this key option? |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Villore Accords
80
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:24:00 -
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Locking overview just by having the mouse pointer over it is a bad idea.
Would be much better to return to us the control over locking the overview with a toggle button like the 'ctrl' used to be before you guys made it practically useless.
Thanks.
EDIT - to the guy above me, clearly you have never assigned a shortcut button or used the default (x) to broadcast target and is still using the right click menu for some reason. |
Elanor Vega
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
94
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:26:00 -
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I like locking of overview on mouse-over. |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
35
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:27:00 -
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New yelllow/red box flashing is terrible, put it back so I can see whats going on at a glance.
Pute the old font back on the overview. I don't need the overview taking up even more space for the same info.
New freeze on mouseover is pretty lol but I will put that down to personal preference. I suppose I can get used to it, shame its not optional.
No minimise for chat invites.
Mininmising stuff to the sidebar rather than the bottom of the screen is still unintuitive and ultimately more clunky than it used to be. |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
35
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:28:00 -
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Basically you cocked up the UI when you updated all those keyboard shortcuts and ruined the ctrl key functionality and this freeze on mouseover is a poor fix. |
Johanne D'Arc
Rhine and Courtesan
35
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:30:00 -
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I'm willing to bet alt tab to another client still does a 'look at' on the highlighted object as well. I have to disable alts 'look at' function just to do something utterly commonplace without risking getting myself killed because im suddenly looking at something filling my screen. |
Daneel Trevize
The Scope Gallente Federation
69
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:32:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:EDIT - to the guy above me, clearly you have never assigned a shortcut button or used the default (x) to broadcast target and is still using the right click menu for some reason. I'd need to find/set shortcuts for Broadcast Align To and Warp to, I'm not often broadcasting targets to be locked atm. Also right-clicking to then fleet-warp. Hard to mess up the options when there's text descriptions being clicked, and do/did X and other fleet shortcuts also freeze the overview? |
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