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Platime
Federation of Unsuitable Individuals
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Posted - 2012.02.21 18:00:00 -
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Frenzerelly wrote:The game pretty much became unplayable for me on this computer. Why is it that my video card resets after I dock or jump through a portal? Does anyone else see these kind of issues? Now even my local screen disappears on me, or is completely becomes unreadable. Even after I made sure my video driver is of the latest version. Sigh! I am about to give up on this game!
I have vid probs as well.... started after an update a good few months ago... basically when I tab out of EVE into another app the colours are all corrupted. If I Ctrl + Alt, Del then cancel in the pop up it all returns to normal.
As an aside my F1, F2, F3 no longer works correctly.... it seems to do both the EVE function and the PC's set up functions... I deleted all the PC ones (F1 opens word etc) and the found the in EVE functions ceased working as well :-(
Win 7 by the way. |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2012.02.21 20:34:00 -
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And how about the cloak hunter ship???? |
LuisWu
Sorry Guy Your Wife Forced Me
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Posted - 2012.02.21 21:23:00 -
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Chokichi Ozuwara wrote:CCP, fix the damn overview. This is ridiculous. Just give us the previous consistent and predictable behavior.
Right now, I don't know what my overview is going to do moment to moment, which makes flying my ship and performing operations in space a big problem.
This patch only made it worse.
Also, as above, the overview is much less responsive now. It is actually slower because of these "improvements" you have introduced. I am constantly waiting for targets to appear on my overview and sort into the correct order.
+1
This patch makes the overview a worst tool than it was before, as simple a that.
Please fix the overview-¦s lag asap. It makes imposible to takle small targets before they jumps, makes instalocking ships useless, kills piracy and makes small combat ops a worst experience. |
Garrick Johannson
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.21 22:08:00 -
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On the off-chance a CCP developer will actually read every post in the thread, as one of the colourblind people in the game I'd like to say that reverting to the old style overview red/yellow box blink was a bad idea.
The Crucible 1.2 blink was at least 10 times easier for me to see with the bright red remaining visible longer against the black of space. This has oft been a problem when in fleet fights where you might not be able to pay full attention and for someone like me, discerning the difference in not targeted vs redboxed is quite hard, especially if you didn't notice the yellowbox in between.
An alternative solution might be to be able to change the opacity on individual windows, rather than all of them (because solid boxes everywhere is ugly). I realise you might achieve this with unpinning the window, but I'd also rather not unpin the overview. Maybe opacity 100% on the icon column could be an option, or customizing the colour of the red and yellow boxes to something high-contrast if you want? (Yellow/Light Blue would be great) Many other games have options for colourblind players and they help tremendously.
If you require a play tester, feedback, or bug finder for colour related things - also happy to help. |
Ugo Mnoguron
Sicarius. Sicarius..
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Posted - 2012.02.21 22:39:00 -
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I'll try to put in perspective what I've thought obvious, but perhaps not well explained on my part for considering someone is understanding what the hell we're referring to: (Yeah, PROBABLY NOT!)
Say you are an FC in a medium sized roaming gang that decides to set up a gate camp for incoming group. 1. How the hell are you supposed to impart instructions and expect them to be executed if not all your pilots have similar, if not the same information on their overview? Don't you think the overview's behavior must be settings-dependent instead of input-reacting? What makes you think all pilots should do exactly the same in terms of input? Have you noticed this is not a trigger for a module from which you expect something precise to happen when you push it? 2. Do you consider it logical that the FC must include a "check your overview hovering" instruction every now and then to ensure his tactic is being understood or followed? Because with this current re-patch, that's exactly what's happening. Which leads to the next question: WHY DO YOU NEED COLLATERAL INSTRUCTIONS AND ACTIONS TO EXECUTE WHAT WAS RUNNING WELL WITHIN THE GAME? Is this the objective? to have the users to rely on third parties to play the game? 3. Why do you expect that all the pilots in a roam should play your choreography so their overview is sorted? 4. What if a pilot is hovering on the overview searching for a called target that may or may not be broadcasted? He loses the ship, maybe.. what if it's a dedicated specialty ship which effectivity is crucial to assure holding ground?.. Do we have a right to petition this? again: (Yeah, PROBABLY NOT!)
Now it happens that being a good pilot is not enough.. having accurate and effective fittings is not enough.. making the players dress up their avatars like barbies doesn't seem to be enough...(the list goes on) Now, not even being naturally and logically moving your mouse seems to be enough. Yeah currently, you have to forget that TO FIND SOMETHING IN THE OVERVIEW YOU MUST LOOK FOR IT WITHIN THE OVERVIEW!.. What part of this is not clear or logical for any of you?... How can you even consider that to look for something in the OV, you have to get out of it? DO YOU REALLY DON'T GET IT?
Stop trying to negotiate the issue and make it a SETTING! not an INPUT-DEPENDENT reaction.
Look, your idea is good and maybe works for multiple scenarios and we all appreciate the effort but please listen!
This is just a sample.. could you please, figure out yourselves other possible scenarios on which speed of information makes your input-reaction model something NOT DESIRABLE because is just plain ridiculous? |
Galmalmin
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:30:00 -
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As an aside my F1, F2, F3 no longer works correctly.... it seems to do both the EVE function and the PC's set up functions... I deleted all the PC ones (F1 opens word etc) and the found the in EVE functions ceased working as well :-(
Win 7 by the way.
I had this happen as well, did alt + F4 to activate a module... computer shut down.
Widows Vista 64Bit Premium Home |
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:37:00 -
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I like that you are trying to address the concerns with the overview, but please, make the mouse over lock nonsense optional. When turned off return CTRL to its previous function of locking the overview and locking targets on LMB.
I dont care how its done, you introduced stupid shortcuts and broke this functionality with things that most people dont use.
Go back to the drawing board, fix overview functionality and the CTRL key and start again on shortcuts without destroying crucial modifier keys like CTRL.
Thanks.
EDIT - Also, regarding the new red-box and yellow-box animation. I understand that you have revamped the animations so that red flashes are more noticeable on a red background. But why not just make the icon column have a non-coloured background?
Keep the rest of the overview background colour options as is, but instead of having new glaring slow-throbbing animations in icon column to be noticeable over the background colours, just remove background colours from just that narrow column and it would always be perfectly clear. |
Kalpel
KBM
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Posted - 2012.02.22 01:56:00 -
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Hamster Too wrote:Congratulations CCP. You managed to take the good work of making the overview faster and nullify it with the mouseover lock, then, after getting all the negative feedback you rolled out a "fix" that made the overview even worse.
Could we, please, PLEASE, have an option box to disable the mouseover overview lock? And get rid of the stupid, distracting, useless lock icon???
Signed/ and fully agreed ....
You failed to target nothing!-áGëívGëí online |
Morar Santee
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:34:00 -
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Wow. Just.... wow.
So you saw the feedback saying "Overview lock on mouseover is causing problems!", and instead of simply giving us a toggle for it - which was the most common request in this thread - or following the steps outlined here, you make the UI behaviour even more random and unpredictable. Great ******* job!!
Really, I tried to be constructive, I tried to give you feedback you could work with.. but if this is the result, then my reply is: Take this ******** change and shove it up your asses.
I hope this procedure is easier to follow. |
Vagrin
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:29:00 -
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"Crucible 1.2.1 Client Update #1
Released February 21, 2012
This update addresses issues introduced with Crucible 1.2
User Interface GùªThe icon animations in the overview have been restored to their former constant-blinking goodness Gùª The JukeboxGÇÖs UI has been de-hosed. Gùª The input caret was sometimes missing from the chat window. We found it and put it back. Gùª Keeping your mouse still over the overview will now release the sort-locking. People interested in having the sorting remained locked are advised to either hold down a combat action key (lock or look at, for example) or strap a vibrating device to your mouse."
Whoever wrote the User Interface comments must of been in a good mood at the time. Way to go! |
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Strange Shadow
Hedion University Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:30:00 -
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Please, pretty please, with sugar on top, just give us OPTION (in ESC menu pls) to lock overview on mouseover, so haters could hate and lovers could love. (i am lover btw) I have enough problems navigating my ship as it is, no need to add "keep mouse moving too" things, i already playing Dance Revolution on keyboard when flying inties (default full speed shortcut, anyone?)...
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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
140
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Posted - 2012.02.22 08:01:00 -
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Strange Shadow wrote:Please, pretty please, with sugar on top, just give us OPTION (in ESC menu pls) to lock overview on mouseover, so haters could hate and lovers could love. (i am lover btw) I have enough problems navigating my ship as it is, no need to add "keep mouse moving too" things, i already playing Dance Revolution on keyboard when flying inties (default full speed shortcut, anyone?)...
You are 99% right. Really! But in 1% I must correct you. Implement this checkbox for this MouseOver-Lock not in the ESC-menue.. set it into the overview. The path would be:
Right click the symbol of the overview-> Open Overview Settings-> Tab Misc-> CHECKBOX-> disable Mousover Lock
Do not slap me please.. you got also a "LIKE" from me. Never mind.. yesterday I suggested also to implement this checkbox into the ESC-menue.
addition: The default of this comming checkbox should be "disable mouseOver-Lock". CCP could implement a side note within the tutorials for setting the overview. I would really be interested of this tutorial. I would like to know how CCP explains this rubbish feature and why I should need / like it. What a pity! All that work for this feature and no one wants it. But this is the result if non playing developers think they could improve the game without asking the gamers. |
AshenShugar01
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.02.22 11:01:00 -
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Sigh..... I actually gasp at the staggering FAIL of CCP at times. Did they learn nothing from the Incana launch?? Do they forget those expensive lessons already???
Dont change what works! Dont change unless you are IMPROVING your product!
The new overview is a huge disability for people trying to solo, small gang, camp etc. Sure might work for the big fights in 0.0 but what about the direction of the game? What about NOT wanting to have the game be increasingly about numbers? The way the overview works now only benefits big fleet fights and hamstrings the rest.
Was the almost one second delay between a target appearing in space and a target appearing on a locked overview really not picked up in testing?
Lots of people have already said it but for gods sake CCP make this thing OPTIONAL! Like you had to make spaceship barbie OPTIONAL because everyone chose to look at that damned door instead of the crap you'd spent all that money on. |
Lucas Quaan
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:48:00 -
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Tesker Flant wrote:i see targets listed @0km on my d-scan and in space a couple seconds before my overview decides to show them. overview has gone from bad to worse This was always the case, are you sure the delay increased that much? |
brammator
Brave New Soldiers. SUB ZERO Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:30:00 -
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Fade Toblack wrote:^ that.
WTF!
So just as you narrow in on what you want, you stop moving your mouse and.... the overview reorders itself. Worst of both worlds!
I could live with order-locked on mouse-over, but this is going to drive me mental.
this. |
Ugo Mnoguron
Sicarius. Sicarius..
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:04:00 -
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Lucas Quaan wrote:Tesker Flant wrote:i see targets listed @0km on my d-scan and in space a couple seconds before my overview decides to show them. overview has gone from bad to worse This was always the case, are you sure the delay increased that much?
It has increased, yes. Can't tell how much but I rekon it did. |
Mia Trouble
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:17:00 -
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I love it all, it's brilliant i hold down left ctrl then left click for my target and wtf thats not the target i wanted why did it just jump 3 spaces. sod that malarkey i'll zoom out and pick my target out of space at least i can get the one i want. your really killing the game for me... |
Master Akira
Shiva Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:28:00 -
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CCP Snorlax wrote:Thanks for the info, Master Akira.
I still have no repro but I made a minor change that goes in the next client update - we'll see if that makes any difference.
Well, whatever it was you did... didn't work.
In fact, one of the video crashes I had after the patch actually crashed my whole client (it didn't restore). That didn't happen before |
Ridjobradi
72.CO
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Posted - 2012.02.23 02:18:00 -
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Eyor wrote:yet another annoying patch that destroys things that weren't broken to begin with. why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult. clearly these patches are made by people who don't actually play the game.
Apsolutelly agree with Eyor..this UI overview fixing..just made alot mass.. 3 days i am clearing cash files re-isntaled graphic card drivers, wiping it again,talked with in game friends etc..reinstaled whole eve after all..and yet before i wanted to ask for assistance GM team, hmm i saw this! Give back, by distance FIXED windows NOW..i really dont wanna chase pods nor ships, nor wrecks..if this is 1 April foolsday joke ..u ARE way 2 early this year. Regards Ridjobradi |
Chokichi Ozuwara
Lucky Dragon Convenience
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:54:00 -
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What's truly disappointing is the lack of response from the developers to this thread.
There are dozens and dozens of posts about the overview, and not only is the issue not fixed, but they aren't showing the courage or accessibility to address this issue.
At least have the courage to tell us you're are or are not going to change it so we can move on. Ignoring clients is poor behavior on behalf of CCP. |
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Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2012.02.23 08:07:00 -
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Ridjobradi wrote:Eyor wrote:yet another annoying patch that destroys things that weren't broken to begin with. why on earth would you freeze the overview anytime the mouse is over it? locking people's pod after their ship explodes or camping on a gate etc just became unnecessarily more difficult. clearly these patches are made by people who don't actually play the game. Apsolutelly agree with Eyor..this UI overview fixing..just made alot mass.. 3 days i am clearing cash files re-isntaled graphic card drivers, wiping it again,talked with in game friends etc..reinstaled whole eve after all..and yet before i wanted to ask for assistance GM team, hmm i saw this! Give back, by distance FIXED windows NOW..i really dont wanna chase pods nor ships, nor wrecks..if this is 1 April foolsday joke ..u ARE way 2 early this year. Regards Ridjobradi
Hello Ridjobradi,
it is sad to hear, that you had so much trouble with this last crap-patch. But what makes me really angry is, that CCP do not give a statement to this situation. Again! They sit this sh!t out. What a cowardly and unworthy behavior.
CCP: You have now 12 pages into the feedback- and 10 pages into the issue thread. According Adam Ries.. this is 22 pages of hate; and NO comment from you to this crap of Overlock sh!t? Why? I demand a explanation why do you force us with this crapsh!t mouseOver-Lock! What is it, that you like this fugg? And if you are NOT able to explain this; tell us the name of this id!ot who had this idea and fire him. He anyway disqualified himself as developer and is not useable for CCP. Clean up your dev-team and get rid of those losers.
You have your feedback and your known issues with this last patch. Act accordingly! Trash this mousOver Lock or make it optional. You have only these two options. There is no third!
Did you ever heard about the slogan: The customer is always right? |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion Mildly Intoxicated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:19:00 -
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Callidus Dux wrote:Did you ever heard about the slogan: The customer is always right?
Once u have been working as a salesperson of any sort, or just done something that has anything to do with customers, you learn that they are f*cking ALWAYS wrong. Dumbass stupid customers. |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:23:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:Did you ever heard about the slogan: The customer is always right? Once u have been working as a salesperson of any sort, or just done something that has anything to do with customers, you learn that they are f*cking ALWAYS wrong. Dumbass stupid customers.
22 pages of hate can't be wrong. They show a trend. |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion Mildly Intoxicated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:26:00 -
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Callidus Dux wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote:Callidus Dux wrote:Did you ever heard about the slogan: The customer is always right? Once u have been working as a salesperson of any sort, or just done something that has anything to do with customers, you learn that they are f*cking ALWAYS wrong. Dumbass stupid customers. 22 pages of hate can't be wrong. They show a trend.
And the government was elected by the people, thereby doing what the people think is right, and the government is always right, right? |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:37:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:And the government was elected by the people, thereby doing what the people think is right, and the government is always right, right?
LOL! Since when does the government do, what the peoples want? |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion Mildly Intoxicated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:52:00 -
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My point exactly. Customers/people have no clue what they want |
LuisWu
Sorry Guy Your Wife Forced Me
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:52:00 -
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Overview-¦ delay is still there and its still a pain in the ass |
Callidus Dux
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
144
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Posted - 2012.02.23 10:03:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:My point exactly. Customers/people have no clue what they want
All I wanted to say is, that the last change with the overview was bad and really not wanted. CCP should roll back to a version which can every one can live with or at least make all these dumb changes optional. CCP cant even explain, what they want with this mouseOver-Lock and why this sh!t is soooo god and why they want to force this to us. Unnecessary, irritating and annoying. Nothing more. Therefore.. ROLL BACK! What should a random delayed and not logical sorted overview bring? We had a functionality overview since last week and the "CTRL" button on our keyboards to lock the overview... WHEN WE WANT. Now we have crap. |
LuisWu
Sorry Guy Your Wife Forced Me
4
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Posted - 2012.02.23 10:55:00 -
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Hannott Thanos wrote:My point exactly. Customers/people have no clue what they want I know what I want. A functional overview without delay, and I had it until CCP ****** it |
Hannott Thanos
Notorious Legion Mildly Intoxicated
3
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Posted - 2012.02.23 12:10:00 -
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LuisWu wrote:Hannott Thanos wrote:My point exactly. Customers/people have no clue what they want I know what I want. A functional overview without delay, and I had it until CCP ****** it
What you also had, was an overview that only updated once every 2.5 seconds, as where now, it updates every second, so it is actually a lot less laggy than it was before the patch. |
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