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Sentinental
Minmatar
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.02.17 09:21:00 -
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To give our shareholders a better view of their investment, I am going to write a monthly report.
IPO
Corp Information:
Corporation founded 2006.03.09
IPO in 03/04 2006
3000 shares were sold at 5 mill isk per share
Our current Assets:
5.0 bill - Tremor L BPO
1.0 bill - Apoc BPO
1.0 bill - Raven BPO
1.0 bill û Megatron BPO
1.0 bill û Tempest BPO
0.5 bill û Minerals/ Fuel
0.5 bill û Empire POS Freighter
15.0 bill - Hound BPO - Stealth Bomber
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25 bill
Our plan:
5 % of the dividend is going into the corp wallet. This money is going to be used for future investments.
Dividend since IPO:
2006.04.30 20:00 1.150.000.000 ISK
2006.05.29 20:33 900.000.000 ISK
2006.06.26 04:54 600.000.000 ISK
2006.08.13 21:21 800.000.000 ISK
2006.10.01 16:34 1.000.000.000 ISK
2007.01.16 22:36 1.000.000.000 ISK
2007.04.15 21:24 100.000.000 ISK
2007.05.20 08:37 100.000.000 ISK
2007.06.16 14:19 650.000.000 ISK
2007.07.24 06:29 600.000.000 ISK
2007.08.26 16:57 600.000.000 ISK
2007.09.29 22:47 600.000.000 ISK
2007.10.29 00:49 600.000.000 ISK
2007.11.28 09:37 600.000.000 ISK
2007.12.31 15:04 600.000.000 ISK
2008.01.31 23:59 no div
Sale Prices/ manufactured per week
Tremor L - 1050/17:46 hours
Hound - 10 mill/6:21 hours
BS BPC 1 mill per RUN / 15 hours
POS Fuel Cost
80 mill
last post was locked because of 3 month posting inactivity
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=537861&page=1
Investment Company which is concentrating on Tech 2
BPO's and Stock Exchange Market's
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Ricdic's Hoe
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Posted - 2008.02.17 12:00:00 -
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My numbers might be wrong but would this suggest that you have paid out 66% of invested capital in dividends over a period of just under 2 years?
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Sentinental
Minmatar
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.02.17 12:19:00 -
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Edited by: Sentinental on 17/02/2008 12:23:47
Yes we did.
Also at the same time the value of the corp increased from 15 bill to 25 bill. On a internal corp Vote 80.64% of shareholders voted against the sale of the hound bpo.
Tech 2 Ammo business is dead business since 2 years. There wasnt much money to make with Tech 2 Ammo in the past. Plz check the the link for more information of the corp history.
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cosmoray
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Posted - 2008.02.17 16:33:00 -
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By my calculation you make about 3 million profit per Hound sold.
Assuming you have the Hound in constant production and sell every ship, that nets you about 350 million a month.
On a 15 billion ISk investment that is an ROI of 2.35% per month.
4.2 billion profit per year.
So it would take 3.5 years to pay back the hound IPO.
IF you could actually sell the hound BPO for 15 billion, you would be better off selling it and putting the money where it returns more money.
IN FACT YOU WOULD BE BETTER INVESTING THE MONEY IN AN EBANK BOND AS IT PAYS MORE!!
Your monthly return isn't very high, and you should think about re-allocating your resources and earn more for your investors.
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Sentinental
Minmatar
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.02.17 23:43:00 -
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@@@cosmoray
As i said, shareholders voted against the sale of the hound bpo, which i respected. it could be bosted in one of the next few patches, you never know. i think the hound is highly speculative. i bought it for 5 bill, last offer i had was at 15 bill, but i couldnt sell it.
hound bpo is makeing a bit more profit and its not the only bpo we have. i think the future divs will be arround 600-900 mill per month.
my corp is in business for close to 2 years now, all other shares i bought turned out to be a scam or arent into business anymore. Here is a short list of some: Power corrups Trading inc; Omnigen PLC; Redstorm Rising; United Star Confederation; Xanotech... and much more
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.02.18 00:08:00 -
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 Originally by: Sentinental
i bought it for 5 bill, last offer i had was at 15 bill, but i couldnt sell it.
If you bought it for 5 Bill then you need to list it in the assets as 5 Bill. It doesn't matter if you say you've gotten a past offer for 15 Bill. You can't be sure you can get that much so listing it on the books for that much is very misleading. Can you point to any other sale of Hound bpo's, recent, that substantiates the valuation? If not, then you've reported 10 bill more in assets then you actually have. And no, I don't have any complaints with the report itself. It's nice to see that you haven't just up and left even if the overall project has been disappointing.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean.
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
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Posted - 2008.02.18 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Taikun on 18/02/2008 01:19:32
Originally by: cosmoray
IF you could actually sell the hound BPO for 15 billion, you would be better off selling it and putting the money where it returns more money.
IN FACT YOU WOULD BE BETTER INVESTING THE MONEY IN AN EBANK BOND AS IT PAYS MORE!!
Your monthly return isn't very high, and you should think about re-allocating your resources and earn more for your investors.
You are ignoring the fact that liquidating assets and investing outside of the company structure exposes shareholders to additional risks.
You make the abouve statement about EBank as if it was a completely risk free proposition. Which it of course is not. Furthermore, if the shareholders of this corporation wants to invest their monies in EBank, they should sell their shares in this corproration and put it to that use instead. It is not the 'business' of this company to make that decision for their shareholders. This corporation builds T2 ships and mods. Not act as a fund management.
The shareholders didn't want to sell the Hound BPO. They seem to have chosen the consequences of that decison, and hence the rate of return on invested income. Why? Who cares. Their isk, their dime.
Of course cosmoray you are simply coming at it from the position of what would garner more isk. I see that. but it is overly simplistic to assume that all investors simply want highest return possible. Some might enjoy lower returns for the piece of mind of being involved with an operation that has lasted over 2 years.
As for valuation of BPOs.
Some who have a limited notion of valuation of company assets will have a simplistic view of how to account for them on the balance sheet.
If it is the companys position that the asset is worth 15 billion, then it is worth 15 billion to the company. Personally I would value the asset at a price I know I could liquidate it at in a minimum period of time. Who knows, the CEO might have a standing order on that BPO and could liquidate it at a whim. That is his valuation and his business. So long as it is transparent for all to see... no foul.
Nevertheless, since he has used that valuation of 15 billion, that value SHOULD be used should any share offerings and buybacks be offered.
Any future revaluation of the BPO up or down should also be recorded as a GAIN or LOSS to the company going forward.
It is almost irrelevent what the valuation is so long as it is transparent as the valuation SHOUL only effect what the company will buy /sell shares for.
Investors on the other hand are free to discount that assumed value and sell their shares at whatever multiple they deem the total assets to be worth. In this case, if they agree that the BPO is overvalued they should sell their shares ASAP back to the company who has valued them so highly. (Or anyone else who would buy them at compny valuation)
End of the day, so what if this business isn't as profitable as other IPOs. The guy has made money, hasn't scammed anyone and is serving the greater community with T2 crap.
He MAY have an overvalued asset. So what? It only effects those dolts who do not undertake due dilligence when buying shares. I wont weep for them.
There is nothing wrong with this report.
Taikun
A criminal is a person with predatory instincts who has not sufficient capital to form a corporation. |
Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.02.18 04:40:00 -
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Originally by: Taikun
There is nothing wrong with this report.
Somehow you and I came to the same ending yet me being the hostile one, as you always point out, was able to avoid all the hostility. In any case, the day that Taikun agrees with me is... a very strange day. Can I now say this report sux so I can make the world right again? (It doesn't; You had a shareholders vote, they decided, ignore trolling.)
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean.
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Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2008.02.18 14:36:00 -
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Originally by: Shar Tegral
[justify]
If you bought it for 5 Bill then you need to list it in the assets as 5 Bill. It doesn't matter if you say you've gotten a past offer for 15 Bill. [justify]
So if i mine all the materials i need to make a BS does that mean i have to list the value of that ship at 0.00 Isk because it didn't cost me anything. Get real. Also I like the way you always start with a flame and then try and riggle out of what you said with clever grammar confussing the masses to beleive you did no wrong.
Shar is never wrong lol lol hehe lol
This was a very good report of a business that has been successful for a number of years, they make themselves a profit and also pay dividends to there shareholders. If they ever make a loss or cannot afford to pay those Dividends they you Shar can flame as much as you like, untill this happens give them a break and get down from that High Horse you like to sit up on.
A fool and his money are soon parted
Better to die with honor than live with shame
Diligence is the mother of good fortune
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread
Trust is the mother of deceit |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.18 16:42:00 -
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66% divs over 2 years is not respectable, it is downright pitiful. Even if you accepted that the IPO grew by 66% (which would in part mean accepting the Hound valuation) then it would mean a 132% return over 2 years, which is 66% per year. This is not stellar by any means, heck it's at ISSO levels (which were pretty sad) but with about 12 times less capital. Now, if the Hound doesn't sell for 15 and sells for 10-12 or less, then you're doing even worse.
The CEO of a corp has to make some hard decisions sometimes. Leaving everything up to uninformed shareholders is not always a good idea. Asking shareholders if you should sell a semi-high value t2 BPO is an example of asking idiots to solve a complex equation. Unless each person who voted was shown all the math behind it, understood that it was generating such a pitiful return, etc then they shouldn't have even been asked. The CEO is expected to make the tough decisions for the good of investors... if selling the Hound BPO was a good idea then you should have done it. You tell your investors that it wasn't yielding the returns it should have and 15b was an absolute steal and you'd not likely see an offer that good again for a long while, if ever. If someone doesn't trust you to run the IPO they should cash out or sell their shares to someone else.
Now, that said, at least you made this post and listed some information for people.
You should list the actual copy time on the BPOs, if you're doing it in a POS then it isn't taking 15 hours per copy, it is taking 65% or 75% of that time.
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Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2008.02.18 17:05:00 -
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You seriously need to learn the difference between real life and this game.
Who cares what fancy financial spin you put on it.
The guy is running an IPO and hes making money from it. His investors bought shares and there making money off that investment. Everyone is winning and everyone is happy, I assume as if not, he would have stoped the IPO and paid off the investors or the investors would have requested there money back and invested elsewhere.
I have seen posts numerous times about the lack of "Trustworthy" Investments and ive noticed the good one sell out rapid. So by that evidence this is a good Investment.
Shar you need to stop orgasming over how big your ISK pile is. Apart from EVE and EO Forums there is a thing called Real Life try spending some time in it. you never know it may make you a bit more forgiving to people who don't want to spend 23/7 in EVE.
A fool and his money are soon parted
Better to die with honor than live with shame
Diligence is the mother of good fortune
Fools rush in where angels fear to tread
Trust is the mother of deceit |
Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.18 17:21:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 18/02/2008 17:23:18
Originally by: Midas Man
Shar you need to stop orgasming over how big your ISK pile is. Apart from EVE and EO Forums there is a thing called Real Life try spending some time in it. you never know it may make you a bit more forgiving to people who don't want to spend 23/7 in EVE.
I don't believe I've seen Shar gloat over his own personal wealth often at all. Unless of course you're referring to me, which makes no sense as my name isn't Shar. It would be like me referring to you as Mis.
And if you're talking to me I wouldn't be so sure I don't spend less time sitting at my computer playing EVE than you do. The fact that I'm more efficient with my time is something I do indeed take pride in.
But I must say the irony of being told by someone on an an internet message board for a massively multiplayer online role playing game that I am too caught up in a game and need to spend more time in the real world is amusing.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.02.18 17:48:00 -
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Quick point > My first post wasn't to flame the OP but to get clarification on the amount paid out. Whilst it has been a low payout I have held these stocks since conception a couple of years back. I have seen a god awful amount of lockdown and unlock votes go through as well as very consistent dividend payments.
I want to thank Sentinental for his continued commitment to the project as well as his consistency. Obviously better returning dividends would be awesome but I am happy to keep my stocks regardless which way it takes as it is a good example of consistency in my book.
Midas Man. My I ask, on behalf of all the eve-online forum users, that you PLEASE put a separator between your sig and your post. The damned thing drives me completely nuts and I keep meaning to bring it up with you but forget.
Thanks in advance 
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Kushion
Anti Sweden Defense Force
Galactic Research
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Posted - 2008.02.18 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Man
You seriously need to learn the difference between real life and this game.
Who cares what fancy financial spin you put on it.
The guy is running an IPO and hes making money from it. His investors bought shares and there making money off that investment. Everyone is winning and everyone is happy, I assume as if not, he would have stoped the IPO and paid off the investors or the investors would have requested there money back and invested elsewhere.
Because something works (barely) you should never improve upon it? There is always room for improvement. That's like saying a guy working for Burger King at minimum wage shouldn't try to get a new job, because the job he has pays money.
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Shar you need to stop orgasming over how big your ISK pile is. Apart from EVE and EO Forums there is a thing called Real Life try spending some time in it. you never know it may make you a bit more forgiving to people who don't want to spend 23/7 in EVE.
Because it's a video game, you should never improve or try harder. Right.
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.02.18 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Man
Shar you need to stop orgasming over how big your ISK pile is. Apart from EVE and EO Forums there is a thing called Real Life try spending some time in it. you never know it may make you a bit more forgiving to people who don't want to spend 23/7 in EVE.
Mondays and Thursdays are my regularly scheduled chemotherapy days. On any other day of the week I'll be more than happy to have you explain to me what real life is. Today I'm too busy puking my guts out to listen to you get everything backwards.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2008.02.19 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Shadarle on 19/02/2008 00:14:21
Interestingly enough there is a Hound BPO on contracts right now. Coincidence? Maybe.
Price? 12b, a bit short of the 15 listed here. The thing is, this issuer always lists his prices well above what he expects to get. I got something he listed a while back for 1/5th his initial list price. I'd think he doesn't expect more than 10b for this BPO, but who knows... if this IPO really loves their hound investment then they should buy another, heck it's 3 bil cheaper then what the currently owned bpo is valued at! That is a 3b savings, seems like a steal.
As an aside, I notice that the numbers I'm coming up with (from Jita) this BPO is worth 2.5-3b yearly. Makes sense why it's listed at 12b, 4x value is common to list at as an advertising tool, then it sells for 2-2.5x lately (for some unknown reason people pay this much). I think it def would be wise for the OP to re-adjust the value of the Hound BPO accordingly.
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Midas Man
Caldari
Dzark Asylum
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Posted - 2008.02.19 16:25:00 -
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I was aiming it at you shardale apologies for the shorthand, i can see how confussing it is as you have the same first part.
My major point is there are a number of "trolls" in this forum whose seem intentent on an Elitist attitude towards anyone unknown to them. You know exactly which people these are, everytime a new person posts in the forum they are hounded by the same people time and time again and although they are quite knowledgeable and have some very good points from time to time they seem to cut the rest of the community off as soon as they can.
Read over a few of the IPO posts by Kyrial (if thats how it was spelt) and a few others that were labled scam (and most probably were). These kind of post come up time and time again and good on you all for shunning them, but what i don't get is with the lack of "trustworthy" IPO's why a few people feel that they must have a dig at a guy who has run a sucessful venture for a period of time because they don't feel that it has made enought money hence the "orgasm over wallet size comment.
As pointed out by Ricdic above this is a trustworth guy who generates a return on his business and pays out regular dividends and maybe its not his lifes ambition to have the biggest wallet in eve. So please give him a bit respect. A profit is a profit and tbh it doesn't matter how much profit you make thereis always someone who can make more and that someone may think my god i would never operate for those small returns but those returns however small they look may keep a guy PvPing and playing Eve for Isk while only requiring very minimal management.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2008.02.19 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Shadarle
The CEO of a corp has to make some hard decisions sometimes. Leaving everything up to uninformed shareholders is not always a good idea. Asking shareholders if you should sell a semi-high value t2 BPO is an example of asking idiots to solve a complex equation. Unless each person who voted was shown all the math behind it, understood that it was generating such a pitiful return, etc then they shouldn't have even been asked. The CEO is expected to make the tough decisions for the good of investors... if selling the Hound BPO was a good idea then you should have done it. You tell your investors that it wasn't yielding the returns it should have and 15b was an absolute steal and you'd not likely see an offer that good again for a long while, if ever. If someone doesn't trust you to run the IPO they should cash out or sell their shares to someone else.
I find a good guideline here is my personal exposure to risk. That is, I'll take a bet on behalf of the corp if I am willing to personally reimburse the bet if it fails or shareholders reject my decision as incorrect. It was this sort of action that resulted in ZERO. buying 450k of its own shares shortly after IPO at less than IPO price. Any reasonable evaluation of the situation reinforced my belief that buying these shares at less than par value was a good investment for the company, and I put out a vote where I offered to immediately, personally buy the shares for slightly above what the corp had paid for them. Not a single investor chose to allow me to do so, reinforcing my belief that purchasing those shares at that price was the right decision for the corp and its shareholders.
Anyway, I'll stop derailing this thread. Talk amongst yourselves. 
MP
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2008.02.19 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Man
I was aiming it at you shardale apologies for the shorthand, i can see how confussing it is as you have the same first part.
Common mistake mate. Everyone seems to see an R in Sh adarle's name where it is not. Thus people are sometimes talking about Shad (no R) when the say Shar. (Of course I wonder how many times Shad gets crapped on when people mean me.) The rest of your post brings up some very good points that we have covered many times before. This is not to say RTFM though, just to say that Gorden Tech's thread is not the place to rehash the topic again. If you'd like, here is a good place to repost your post so that it can be discussed.
To Shar -verb:
1 - To say what you mean.
2 - To say what it means.
3 - To say something mean.
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cosmoray
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Posted - 2008.02.19 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Midas Man
I was aiming it at you shardale apologies for the shorthand, i can see how confussing it is as you have the same first part.
My major point is there are a number of "trolls" in this forum whose seem intentent on an Elitist attitude towards anyone unknown to them. You know exactly which people these are, everytime a new person posts in the forum they are hounded by the same people time and time again and although they are quite knowledgeable and have some very good points from time to time they seem to cut the rest of the community off as soon as they can.
Read over a few of the IPO posts by Kyrial (if thats how it was spelt) and a few others that were labled scam (and most probably were). These kind of post come up time and time again and good on you all for shunning them, but what i don't get is with the lack of "trustworthy" IPO's why a few people feel that they must have a dig at a guy who has run a sucessful venture for a period of time because they don't feel that it has made enought money hence the "orgasm over wallet size comment.
As pointed out by Ricdic above this is a trustworth guy who generates a return on his business and pays out regular dividends and maybe its not his lifes ambition to have the biggest wallet in eve. So please give him a bit respect. A profit is a profit and tbh it doesn't matter how much profit you make thereis always someone who can make more and that someone may think my god i would never operate for those small returns but those returns however small they look may keep a guy PvPing and playing Eve for Isk while only requiring very minimal management.
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In most threads I don't think there is an elitist attitude.
I do admit there is a core of regulars, and most of the time they are trying to evaluate risk, or offer genuine advice on how IPO's/bonds business plans can be improved.
Remember nearly everyone involved in the MD forums WANTS new business plans/IPO's/bonds to be SUCCESSFUL, as it makes the market grow and create more wealth opportunities for investors.
What may look like flame may also be legitimate concerns about a current business plan.
The more questions and answers that occur, creates more learning which drives better business plans. There is a lot of good advice on these forums that comes from having a diverse community, its a shame to waste it!
I must admit I have learnt quite a bit about finance and other business matters on these forums, which is a pleasant surprise as I didnit think I would.
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Sentinental
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Sentinental on 27/03/2008 16:01:46
Thanks to everyone for that interesting discussion, i was following it with great interest.
I adjusted the value of the hound BPO, in order to create 2.000 more shares at a price of 6 mill each share. Close to half of the shares already sold to existing shareholders, the rest of the shares is going to be sold on the free market.
The 12 bill isk is going to be used to get two empire research POSes running. The rest of the isk is going to be invested in more tech1 BPOs, mainly ship BPO. I am not going to buy new ship bpos, ship bpos are bought with me lvl 30 at npc price + 5% and go streight into copy production. So expect a higher div starting in april/may this year.
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EBANK Ricdic
Eve-Tech Savings n Loans
Zzz
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Posted - 2008.03.27 16:22:00 -
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Take over/buy C-R-A
Then you get lots of empire research pos's
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cosmoray
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.03.27 17:03:00 -
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You expanded by 12B ISK,
You haven't paid a dividend in a year,
The return on the investment is around 2% per month
Question:
Are you shareholders mental?
You earn more money in an EBank account.
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Sentinental
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.03.27 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Sentinental on 27/03/2008 18:44:10
Edited by: Sentinental on 27/03/2008 18:43:40
Originally by: EBANK Ricdic
Take over/buy C-R-A
Then you get lots of empire research pos's
We already have two towers operational. What if we join a research alliance? Can other member corps use our slots aswell?
Originally by: cosmoray
You expanded by 12B ISK,
You haven't paid a dividend in a year,
The return on the investment is around 2% per month
Question:
Are you shareholders mental?
You earn more money in an EBank account.
Are you sure that you are talking about Tech7?
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YouGotRipped
Ewigkeit
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Posted - 2008.03.27 21:57:00 -
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It's Gordon Freeman not Gordan.
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WonderBoy
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.28 09:23:00 -
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When will the public be able to buy those 1.000 shares ?
In any case I¦d like to reserve some, please send me a evemail if that is possible.
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Sentinental
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Posted - 2008.04.01 18:03:00 -
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thats the link to the puplic sale
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=739486
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Sentinental
Minmatar
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.04.27 21:09:00 -
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Edited by: Sentinental on 27/04/2008 21:11:56
latest news
- april div distributed
- update on corp assets
- 2000 new shares
- shop will open soon
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Sentinental
Gordan Freeman Tech III Investment
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Posted - 2008.05.27 16:32:00 -
[29]
may div
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Ghost Emperor
EvE Mutual Fund Inc.
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Posted - 2008.05.29 22:14:00 -
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Dividend received with thanks  and I hope the trend of steady growth continues, all the best with Plans from Ghost and EMFI
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