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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:13:00 -
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Today I saw something I barely hoped for - a deserted Ingunn , with no farmers left at all. More empty than most lowsec systems. Chinese new year celebrations have passed , the conclusion is that ISK farmers are gone for good.
I founded Metafarmers to clear Orfrold , which had at most 50 farmers in local. Ingunn local commonly went up to 200 less than a month ago. But thanks to the efforts of our many friends (and some enemies - Black Flag deserves a mention here) Ingunn actually became unprofitable to farm , we had a real impact on their activities.
This proves that lowsec space can be cleaned of the macrohauler scourge. Our work isn't done yet , many areas remain infested (Jovainnon , Arzi , Mamet to mention a few) so Metafarmers are still recruiting whoever is willing to help. Aspiring pirates can learn the trade in the Pillaging 101 channel , while seasoned farmer killers can join our Chaining Farmers public channel.
Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:15:00 -
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Yarrr! We do not want to see this game ended prematurely and we shall prevail!
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Elles D
Caldari Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:18:00 -
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Now this is the sort of thread i like to see. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Krumpit
Caldari Madness of Crowds
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:20:00 -
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How dare he presume to know what a farmer is! How can he prove it! How is he different from just any old griefer! How can the game possibly survive, with the likes of him harassing innocent miners?
For answers to all these and more, you can join public channel Macrointel as well as the ones mentioned above.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:21:00 -
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Good job Stak and Metafarmers. Hopefully this time they stay away for good
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:24:00 -
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this is one victory in the many battles to come which shal determine who rules eve, the players or the farmers. -------------
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:32:00 -
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Good Job. Not that I want more pirates there anyways, but the area around Intaki and Agoze, have recently become "infested" with Isk farmers. Not as many as in Ingunn, tough. My estimation would put it around 20-50 accounts/characters (They are really too scattered to make out how many). Plenty of new (avrage is probably 5-10 days) State War Academy Caldari Caracal pilots, who all fly similiar fittings (almost identical). They like to gang up in several caracals and try to engage you at station .
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Krumpit
Caldari Madness of Crowds
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:37:00 -
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And it seems that smartbombing mackinaws is now back in fashion - both spectacular and profitable;
http://macrointel.eve-kb.org/ 19th & 20th February
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:45:00 -
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Good job Stahk.
I think your Corp is one of the reasons ISK prices have gone up! lol
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Chomapuraku
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.20 23:45:00 -
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can you clear bogelek next? the guys in RK keep spamming the KB with the KMs of farmers there (literally hundreds in one week, once)
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.21 00:05:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
This proves that lowsec space can be cleaned of the macrohauler scourge.
Glad to see that atleast someone is utilizing the advatages of living in "unregulated" space. Even tho I instinctivily don't approve of arbitrary labeling anyone as a farmer the fact that you guys set up and accomplished a goal which had a big impact of the system is admirable. A nice example of enforcing a goal of a greater good/larger vision that most low-sec residents seem to lack.
Damn nice work, Stahk.
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Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.02.21 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krumpit And it seems that smartbombing mackinaws is now back in fashion - both spectacular and profitable;
http://macrointel.eve-kb.org/ 19th & 20th February
Wow, you're right, those mack's are so obviously not isk farmers. You get popped, want some cheese?
Originally by: High Sierra note to self: dont ever say anything to anyone on the internet about anything ever again.
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ShinjiKI
Gallente MacroIntel United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.02.21 00:09:00 -
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GJ Guys
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Feng Schui
Minmatar Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.02.21 00:20:00 -
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Very, Very nice!
Project:Gank
Pilgrim Guide
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Liang Nuren
The Avalon Foundation
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Posted - 2008.02.21 00:20:00 -
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GJ folks ;-)
-Liang -- My new keyboard is awesome... I can type again (beware Eve-O spreaders of misinformation!) |
Crimson Onyx
the united Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.21 00:24:00 -
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Nice job guys in Metafarmers and stak my sexy french man ^_^
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jimmyjam
Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.02.21 01:10:00 -
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I endorse your actions maybe you and yours boys can take a look at the placid area systems like jovinainn and heavrice or however those are spelled.
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Fourty Niner
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Posted - 2008.02.21 01:37:00 -
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Ok, probably really stupid question, but... what lets you know that its an isk farmer?
Are they all in a corp called "Isk Farmers R us"? Or by some other really obvious means. Or do we just assume that they are farmers.
Or are we just saying , "No one mines my space Yarrr!"?
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Krumpit
Caldari Madness of Crowds
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Posted - 2008.02.21 01:44:00 -
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you go to
http://macrointel.eve-kb.org/
and you look at the kind of people who get killed and you think to yourself... hmmmm.... what funny names these characters have
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.02.21 01:48:00 -
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what happened with syndicate when bruce left will happen to ingunn when you leave.
Its a big galaxy out there
You've caused a minor inconvenience.
They'll be back
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.21 02:11:00 -
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Originally by: Krumpit you go to
http://macrointel.eve-kb.org/
and you look at the kind of people who get killed and you think to yourself... hmmmm.... what funny names these characters have
Agreed.
In addition to the funny names, notice the Civilian Shield Boosters these Mackinaws have fitted. Sorry, but I don't buy the fact that legitimate Exhumer Pilots fit Civilian Shield Boosters...thats just lmao
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Salicylate
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.21 02:21:00 -
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It was hard to believe when I saw it a few days ago too!
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Naridos
Caldari IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.21 02:43:00 -
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I have to say congrats guys. But this is not the end of them. All they will do now is farm high sec. What then?
Quote: You Know you play too much Eve when you get into a car crash and you run away as fast as you can so that you don't get podded.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.02.21 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Naridos I have to say congrats guys. But this is not the end of them. All they will do now is farm high sec. What then?
moar suicide gank!!!!!!!!
10 geddons on a raven tanked for guristas is fun, even better angels
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.02.21 05:48:00 -
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Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Naridos I have to say congrats guys. But this is not the end of them. All they will do now is farm high sec. What then?
moar suicide gank!!!!!!!!
10 geddons on a raven tanked for guristas is fun, even better angels
CN launchers for everyone! -------------
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Inertial
The Python Cartel
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Posted - 2008.02.21 07:11:00 -
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Originally by: Fourty Niner Ok, probably really stupid question, but... what lets you know that its an isk farmer?
Are they all in a corp called "Isk Farmers R us"? Or by some other really obvious means. Or do we just assume that they are farmers.
Or are we just saying , "No one mines my space Yarrr!"?
Generally Isk farmers are all Caldari. They either belong to some random corp, or they belong to a noob corp. If they belong to a noob corp, you can generally spot a abnormal amount of characters from that noob corp, with similiar ages. They all normally fly the same ships. In the Intaki area, all of their newest characters fly Kestrels, while their characters over 1 day fly Caracals, who are all very similiarly fitted. If you kill one of them, or waits outside one of their stations, you might suddenly find 15 people from the noob corp in Caracals trying to kill you (which is a very good indication that 15 guys are sitting right next to each other). None of this is definitive proof that they are ISK farmers, but are very good indications.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.21 07:40:00 -
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Muffins also helped in this endeavor, not by attacking in Ingunn but by conducting Hauler-palooza Ops 1 jump out of Ingunn to cut off Farmer haulers where they cant redock or use the natural instant undock. We also took down many macro battleships too
:)
Give us our fair share of the glorryy!
Originally by: Viator Pilot Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.21 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Naridos I have to say congrats guys. But this is not the end of them. All they will do now is farm high sec. What then?
That's exactly what I want.
Let them go to high sec. CCP listens to all the high sec bears. They will start spamming "rabble rabble farmer lag! rabble rabble desync! rabble rabble lost my CNR!" all over the forums. Then maybe CCP will start to do something.
I suspect that the farmers were in low sec areas like ingunn because CCP instructed them to go there to avoid lagging out mission systems like salia/motsu etc any more.
Originally by: Fourty Niner Ok, probably really stupid question, but... what lets you know that its an isk farmer?
Are they all in a corp called "Isk Farmers R us"? Or by some other really obvious means. Or do we just assume that they are farmers.
Or are we just saying , "No one mines my space Yarrr!"?
low sec chinese farmers don't mine belts, there would be no sense in that at all. They do macro hauling and the occasional combat mission.
Originally by: DarknessInc Muffins also helped in this endeavor, not by attacking in Ingunn but by conducting Hauler-palooza Ops 1 jump out of Ingunn to cut off Farmer haulers where they cant redock or use the natural instant undock. We also took down many macro battleships too
:)
Give us our fair share of the glorryy!
I saw you guys do a pretty sweet camp 4 months or so ago. You guys had 15 or so ships and once you were done there might have been close to 200 wrecks on the gate. Nice work, but I am glad that you didn't come back!
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kublai
Art of War
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Posted - 2008.02.21 08:11:00 -
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Great work guys, keep it up. ------ Art of War is recruiting - Think you got what it takes? Buying sig - eve-mail "Jonny 101" |
Neddy Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.21 08:43:00 -
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Damn, I wish I knew how to handle them in .5 systems..
Last night a fleet of farmers jumped almost on top of me, and had their macro's wrong, so they all targetted me instead of the ice LOL.. Guess I was closer to them then any roids.
I tried everything to draw aggro from them, but nothing worked..
Keep up the good work. I stopped selling TC's to those farmers also.. Only genuine characters will get it now.
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Templer Relleg
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.21 09:16:00 -
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Actually, Jovainnon is hardly infested. Its usually like 40+ in local. This time around, since 2 weeks ago, its mostly empty
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.21 10:06:00 -
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Congratulations man. That's good work!
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Redbad
Minmatar Tempered Steel Legion
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:11:00 -
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Good job Stakhanov,
It sure looks pretty desolate now, havent seen that in ages.
CU in local.
RB
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.21 11:15:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus TheMartin what happened with syndicate when bruce left will happen to ingunn when you leave.
Its a big galaxy out there
You've caused a minor inconvenience.
They'll be back
Maybe... but it's better than doing nothing. At the least they have to move those characters, grind standings for a new corp, move ships & equipment etc etc and generally spend player time doing non ISK-making activities.
And the positive publicity may encourage others to join in. Now that it's been shown that they can be driven out, other corps in other locations are more likely to do so. There are only so many 'optimum' spots where this kind of activity is worthwhile.
When Metafarmers get dec'd by mercs we'll know it's working ;o)
(Mercs: take the money then dec the corp that employs you)
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.21 13:43:00 -
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Originally by: Stakhanov
Today I saw something I barely hoped for - a deserted Ingunn , with no farmers left at all. More empty than most lowsec systems. Chinese new year celebrations have passed , the conclusion is that ISK farmers are gone for good.
I founded Metafarmers to clear Orfrold , which had at most 50 farmers in local. Ingunn local commonly went up to 200 less than a month ago. But thanks to the efforts of our many friends (and some enemies - Black Flag deserves a mention here) Ingunn actually became unprofitable to farm , we had a real impact on their activities.
This proves that lowsec space can be cleaned of the macrohauler scourge. Our work isn't done yet , many areas remain infested (Jovainnon , Arzi , Mamet to mention a few) so Metafarmers are still recruiting whoever is willing to help. Aspiring pirates can learn the trade in the Pillaging 101 channel , while seasoned farmer killers can join our Chaining Farmers public channel.
Yeah, you have done a good job there! Happy to see our local hunting grounds clear for scanning of real players. Now I just got 105 Bestowers sitting for sale in Ingunn with no buyer. Oh well, was worth the popping
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Krollin
Minmatar Ki Shoda United Corporations Against Macros
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Posted - 2008.02.21 14:47:00 -
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Keep up the good work,
Nice to see the odd suicide gank on the board.
Kro
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.02.21 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Fourty Niner Ok, probably really stupid question, but... what lets you know that its an isk farmer?
Are they all in a corp called "Isk Farmers R us"? Or by some other really obvious means. Or do we just assume that they are farmers.
Or are we just saying , "No one mines my space Yarrr!"?
They spend 23 hours a day doing courier mission in low sec. Also some of them have even said so their selves in local and in private convos. Based on that most ppl assume they are. Now plz not another discussion on this forum about a subject like this the last one was uninteresting enough.
Good work guys. When they popped back after chinease holidays I thought there would never be an end to it. But seems you finally made it. awesome.
The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie) |
Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.21 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Fourty Niner Ok, probably really stupid question, but... what lets you know that its an isk farmer?
Are they all in a corp called "Isk Farmers R us"? Or by some other really obvious means. Or do we just assume that they are farmers.
Or are we just saying , "No one mines my space Yarrr!"?
They will either be called "sekughfjsdfn", "klszzzosu" or "dfghjhghk". Else the new fashion is to take 2 random words and make them into a name, always with capital letter in the start of first word, and small letter in the start of the second word. An example of this could be "Dinner family".
They will also all be in nub corps and they come back to the same station camp over and over and over... No real player would be stupid enough to get killed by the same camp 4-5 times in 1 hour.
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DarknessInc
Minmatar mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.21 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc Muffins also helped in this endeavor, not by attacking in Ingunn but by conducting Hauler-palooza Ops 1 jump out of Ingunn to cut off Farmer haulers where they cant redock or use the natural instant undock. We also took down many macro battleships too
:)
Give us our fair share of the glorryy!
I saw you guys do a pretty sweet camp 4 months or so ago. You guys had 15 or so ships and once you were done there might have been close to 200 wrecks on the gate. Nice work, but I am glad that you didn't come back!
Ohh we came back multiple times. I wasnt in Muffins 4 months ago, but Ive been down there around 3-4 times on a Op to destroy. Farmers stopped going through the gates :)
Originally by: Viator Pilot Now I will go back to agents, already without the desire of adventures on the ass :)
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.02.22 00:40:00 -
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Nice work
Unfortunately for most people, Killing a bunch of Macros isn't justification enough to completely ditch their security status. I myself would still be doing it if not for that, since I have no desire to raise my SS back up from -10 a third time
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Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:51:00 -
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hats off to stak, vic, and the rest of the metafarmers. your little project really took off didn't it bud?
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 02:02:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady hats off to stak, vic, and the rest of the metafarmers. your little project really took off didn't it bud?
Yes it did, metafarmers continues to vastly exceed my expectations. I thought it would take us a couple months to clear orfrold, we did it in little more than 2 weeks. They actually ended up with mostly negative standings to poteque.
I thought we would never clear ingunn. If you have ever seen our KB, lobster man once killed like 700 farmers in a single week!!!! That's just one of us!! For ages, the ingunn farmers really did not want to turn in the towel. I really have to hand it to our guys for being so persistent.
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 03:49:00 -
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Update : Arzi is empty of farmers as well , thanks to the work of Under the Wing of Fury (from Atrocitas) local pirates who have been killing them for quite a while. Apparently one of their petitions went through and a certain GM did some much needed cleaning. The entire farmer corporations we were after for months have been banned. This would explain why Jovainnon is mostly empty as they were the same people.
This is the beginning of the end for lowsec farmers. Some of the last active ones are sitting scared in NPC corps in Ansen (lowsec pocket in Metropolis) Time will tell if we can finish them off despite the local antipirate pressure. Then , off to CVA space we go to clean the rest
Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
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Simariliia
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.22 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: Simariliia on 22/02/2008 04:40:41
Originally by: Stakhanov Update : Arzi is empty of farmers as well , thanks to the work of Under the Wing of Fury (from Atrocitas) local pirates who have been killing them for quite a while. Apparently one of their petitions went through and a certain GM did some much needed cleaning. The entire farmer corporations we were after for months have been banned. This would explain why Jovainnon is mostly empty as they were the same people.
This is the beginning of the end for lowsec farmers. Some of the last active ones are sitting scared in NPC corps in Ansen (lowsec pocket in Metropolis) Time will tell if we can finish them off despite the local antipirate pressure. Then , off to CVA space we go to clean the rest
Ive been supporting those Atrocitas guys both logistical and pvpwise in their war agains the farmers. not too much pvp wise though. trying to have some decetn sec still:p
and Ive seen a much emtyer locals now. Used to be 10-20 farmer haulers in all system 4-5 j around arzi and 50sih in arzi at all time. now its 0 while atroccitas are online, and just a couple when they think the route is clear.
anyways....about the cva area...the problem is that the CVA activily hunt pirats, even they only shoot farmers. so its makes it even less cost effeciant than it is. I think in order to clean em out, u gotto do a nap deal for a certain time atleast. or u will find yourself running out of ships very fast^^.
I saw during the tri assult on CVA space, that after a little the haulerfarmers numbers did drop heavly as 100 tri was more or less constant ganking em when they undocked in misaba.
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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lobster Man on 22/02/2008 11:40:05 I can't help but wonder if the slowly rising implant prices are to do with us and perhaps a stealth banhammer by CCP too.
I would also like to note, if you can fit up a few smartbombs (carrier work well ) and camp one of the stations that kicks you out past re-dock range, you can get hundreds of kills in a single day (although these days of mass atrocity are hopefully over).
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.02.22 12:04:00 -
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If it really is down to you guys then kudos I am impressed.
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Hardin
Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:01:00 -
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Actually I am not sure they did.
There has beena gigantic drop in macroers across space generally which has already been reported on Scrapheap.
In addition the number of macroers in CVA space has also taken a recent dive (post-Tri) for no apparent reason. I have spent quite a lot of time in the Mamet/Kheram area over the past few days and have seen no apparent macro traffic during that period (and these were some of the hot spots)...
So either CCP have finally got their arse in gear on this issue or there may be some other reason - I did see some speculation that it had something to do with techy/net issues out in the Middle East but as am not an expert can't comment on these.
Finally with regard to CVA 'low-sec' anyone shooting neutrals will be considered pirates and set KOS to the CVA regardless of whether they are macros or not.
We cannot get into lengthy debates about who is or is not a 'macroer' and simply shooting anyone in a hauler simply because they look 'macro' is not acceptable for us because it will (and has) lead to innocent neutrals (who are under our protection) being killed.
----- Alliance Creation/Corp Expansion Services
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2008.02.22 20:24:00 -
[48]
Keep up the good work!
Volition Cult Recruitment Post |
Neal Cassady
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.22 21:12:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Hardin
Finally with regard to CVA 'low-sec' anyone shooting neutrals will be considered pirates and set KOS to the CVA regardless of whether they are macros or not.
We cannot get into lengthy debates about who is or is not a 'macroer' and simply shooting anyone in a hauler simply because they look 'macro' is not acceptable for us because it will (and has) lead to innocent neutrals (who are under our protection) being killed.
i doubt this will keep stak, vic, and company out; they're used to being KOS to lots of people. if there really aren't any macroers, however, that is another story.
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.22 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Neal Cassady
i doubt this will keep stak, vic, and company out; they're used to being KOS to lots of people. if there really aren't any macroers, however, that is another story.
Good point Neal. If you're -10, you're KOS to 99% of Eve anyway lol
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The0
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.02.22 22:52:00 -
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You guys kick ass.
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:01:00 -
[52]
Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 23/02/2008 02:01:07
Originally by: Hardin Edited by: Hardin on 22/02/2008 15:09:15
I am not sure that the action taken by Stakhanov or any other players have made any difference on this issue.
uhhh, once they get negative standings to their agents from having to decline too many missions then I think it is clear that it has to do with them being killed by metafarmers and other anti-farmbot forces.
Originally by: Hardin so there is absolutely no reason for Stakhanov or anyone else to come here to shoot macroers anyway.
does someone fear losing a source of income? ;)
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Dr Slice
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:05:00 -
[53]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
does someone fear losing a source of income? ;)
Busted
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:23:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Dr Slice
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto
does someone fear losing a source of income? ;)
Busted
someone get CVA a PR damage control II. -------------
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PCaBoo
RennTech SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.23 03:00:00 -
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lol GJ Stak! I've been noticing the ISK spammers prices have been going up. So i'm assuming you guys are doing a fine job. :)
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Havoc G
Quam Singulari
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Posted - 2008.02.23 05:08:00 -
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something to do with there new year maybe?
i killed about 100 haulers in ingunn in about a hour once.. good fun
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Karlemgne
Flying Under the Influence
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Posted - 2008.02.23 09:13:00 -
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Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.02.23 12:58:00 -
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I have a horrible feeling but I hope I'm wrong that they have got sufficient standings now just to sit and use R@D agents and get an income without having to leave stations now.
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Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.23 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Karlemgne Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
Donations are always welcome We have however also been killing some 600-700 farmers in Ingunn the last 2 months, however killing farmers is no way to avoid the "If we see you in local, we set your corp red" policy we have had since we started the corp.
We do however apreciate metafarmers job there. We have killed 2 carriers in Ingunn at the farmer station, and on fight was so freaking laggy that you got a frame or 2 per second due to hundreds of people in local.
While metafarmers have been steadily killing them, we have only been joykilling them when nothing else was around.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.23 13:11:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Neal Cassady
Originally by: Hardin
Finally with regard to CVA 'low-sec' anyone shooting neutrals will be considered pirates and set KOS to the CVA regardless of whether they are macros or not.
We cannot get into lengthy debates about who is or is not a 'macroer' and simply shooting anyone in a hauler simply because they look 'macro' is not acceptable for us because it will (and has) lead to innocent neutrals (who are under our protection) being killed.
i doubt this will keep stak, vic, and company out; they're used to being KOS to lots of people. if there really aren't any macroers, however, that is another story.
I can't think of a post more carefully calculated to drawm Metafarmer's attention...
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
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Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.23 13:28:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Karlemgne rabble rabble
Yep , we're oppressing the working masses with our internet spaceships. We are capitalist pigs bent on undermining the People's Republic welfare obviously
Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.23 14:13:00 -
[62]
As you're not making much ISK out of it, I believe that technically makes you "running dog stooges of the capitalist oppressors".
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Dimitry Kalashnikov
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2008.02.23 15:31:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
You don't have any isk Karl.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.23 17:13:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
Wait, so you're saying that pirates in lo-sec should specifically exempt ISK-farmers because they're selling ISK for real money?
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Grunanca
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.23 17:19:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
Wait, so you're saying that pirates in lo-sec should specifically exempt ISK-farmers because they're selling ISK for real money?
Actually often they are let out of being killed due to not being worth the gtc. However when you then kill a nub ship with 350 mil worth of implants, it makes you rethink whats worth a gcc
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2008.02.23 18:09:00 -
[66]
Linkage
wow may suck, but this page on the official wow website says it all. Isk buying is bad, isk selling is bad. -------------
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.23 21:16:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Stakhanov
Originally by: Karlemgne rabble rabble
Yep , we're oppressing the working masses with our internet spaceships. We are capitalist pigs bent on undermining the People's Republic welfare obviously
Not just capitalist pigs, we are virtual robber barons
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Dimitry Kalashnikov
The Black Fleet
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Posted - 2008.02.24 06:06:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
Wait, so you're saying that pirates in lo-sec should specifically exempt ISK-farmers because they're selling ISK for real money?
Frankly I'm somewhat confused by Karl's post as well. I know for a fact that Karl is against the buying or selling of isk, and the fact that he wants to send appreciation isk to Black Flag (whom are anti-macro apparently) sorta proves that. I just have no idea who "Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives?" is directed at...
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2008.02.25 23:45:00 -
[69]
Originally by: VicturusTeSaluto Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 23/02/2008 02:01:07
does someone fear losing a source of income? ;)
The only thing I fear from you guys is becoming a source of income. And I have to admit, despite the nasty things you did to my cute, fluffy battleship the other day, I still love what's happened to the macro population.
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Krumpit
Caldari Madness of Crowds
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Posted - 2008.02.26 01:10:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Dimitry Kalashnikov
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Karlemgne Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives? Props to anyone who flies against these guys. I might have to send some appreciation isk to Black Flag.
-Karlemgne
Wait, so you're saying that pirates in lo-sec should specifically exempt ISK-farmers because they're selling ISK for real money?
Frankly I'm somewhat confused by Karl's post as well. I know for a fact that Karl is against the buying or selling of isk, and the fact that he wants to send appreciation isk to Black Flag (whom are anti-macro apparently) sorta proves that. I just have no idea who "Wow. Don't you have anything better to do than **** with peoples real lives?" is directed at...
Yeah I had to reread Karlmagne's post a few times, I think he left out a bit of sarcasm in his first sentence!
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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 02:56:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Malcanis As you're not making much ISK out of it, I believe that technically makes you "running dog stooges of the capitalist oppressors".
Who says we weren't (and still aren't) making a pretty penny? Blowing up all those bestowers/iterons in one system drove the local demand way up, and farmers didn't seem to be above paying 2.75m per bestower
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.26 09:19:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Lobster Man
Originally by: Malcanis As you're not making much ISK out of it, I believe that technically makes you "running dog stooges of the capitalist oppressors".
Who says we weren't (and still aren't) making a pretty penny? Blowing up all those bestowers/iterons in one system drove the local demand way up, and farmers didn't seem to be above paying 2.75m per bestower
Really? Excellent! In that case, welcome back to capitalist oppressor pigdom!
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.26 11:18:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Krumpit
Yeah I had to reread Karlmagne's post a few times, I think he left out a bit of sarcasm in his first sentence!
It's not sarcasm. He actually thinks that it is wrong to kill macros because it is their job!
lol. If someone is harassing me and ruining the game in general while I am having fun I don't care whether it is their job or not- they can go cheney themselves.
The macros can not end eve prematurely! We must prevail!
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Selbstopfer
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.26 14:20:00 -
[74]
Good stuff guys, keep up the good work!
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isdisco3
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.26 21:41:00 -
[75]
Very nice job guys, this is exactly the kind of thing that eve is great for - players solving game-based problem through their own innovation and work.
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ceyriot
Minmatar Crimson Rebellion
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Posted - 2008.02.27 01:25:00 -
[76]
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AndrewRyan
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Posted - 2008.02.27 02:04:00 -
[77]
Just remember that I'm on to you and I know the truth! you cant hide your isk farming behind the front of so called farmer hunters forever,
The truth is out there!
Originally by: Malcanis
Seriously, have you ever actually pressed F1 with something other than an asteroid locked?
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Stitchedscars
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.02.28 08:24:00 -
[78]
UMMM What is all this talk of killing farmers I just joined the corp cause Vic offered me free beer. LOL jk
YARRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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Teyr
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Posted - 2008.02.28 11:56:00 -
[79]
Looks like there is still farmers in Igunn |
flashfresh
BLACK-FLAG
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Posted - 2008.02.28 12:25:00 -
[80]
Well done to Metafarmers on their appointed task. Ingunn is clear mainly because of them BUT a GM was also present for a week or so, removing farmers as well. Why was he there? I have no idea but the effect was dramatic: from a peak of 170 down to 2 or 3.
Very nice.
The farmers are creeping back however so a periodic clean is in order. Black-Flag are 100% anti-farmer but we were not set up as a corporation purely to eradicate them. Metafarmers are set up for this and they do a fine job. However, MF are red to us (as a most corps) and they've proven that they're damn fine pvpers too when our groups have engaged.
Oh, and a reason why one must ALWAYS check the rookie ship wrecks of farmers, account is here.
Good luck Stakhanov and his lads.
Flashfresh
ôMe, I'm dishonest, and you can always trust a dishonest man to be dishonest. Honestly, it's the honest ones you have to watch out for.'ö http://i-pirate.blogspot.com
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General Coochie
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.02.28 12:42:00 -
[81]
All of the old farmers are gone, but now some new I never seen before started to appear.
Maybe GMS banned lots of accounts and now they start to make new ones.
The Vigil and The Caracal (duo PvP movie) |
Kain De'Stroi
Epic.
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Posted - 2008.02.28 14:40:00 -
[82]
good work
-------- Boost Amarr and I will conquer the Universe - you been warned |
Zedrik Cayne
Gallente Session9 Rising Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.28 18:49:00 -
[83]
Well done gentlemen. I unfortunately have too many things going on in high sec to, er...help with the situation. Although one of my alts actually managed to pod an isk-spammer. (What, you're spamming isk advertisements in local on the gates to my lowsec home? Not anymore you're not.) And I've been buffing my ice yield from the farmers when I can.
Every bit helps I hope.
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Remember: Carebears aren't people. They are giant flying pi±atas.
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Rob Repper
Asshats and Alcoholics
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Posted - 2008.03.03 22:14:00 -
[84]
Just came thru Ingunn, 47 people in local :(
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.03.03 23:21:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Rob Repper Just came thru Ingunn, 47 people in local :(
Noooooess ------------
Originally by: CCP Mitnal It's great being a puppetmaster
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.03 23:27:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Rob Repper Just came thru Ingunn, 47 people in local :(
god it's worse than couch grass...
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
Feilamya
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Posted - 2008.03.03 23:32:00 -
[87]
Some of them look familiar, and many of them are in Hedion University noob corp. They look like the farmers that were in Khanid and Aridia before.
You might have actually driven out one farmer corp and cleared the system for another.
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Praxis1452
The Bastards
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Posted - 2008.03.04 01:30:00 -
[88]
It's been worse recently again.
I see shuttles/haulers warping to gate every 20-30 seconds now. They just keep coming back. I wish they made the bestower and sigil require industrial 3-4 or make industrial 3 a minimum. Atleast it may take them a bit more time. >.< -------------------------------------------- ôHe who must expend his life to prolong life cannot enjoy it, and he who is still seeking for his life does not have it and can as little enjoy it" |
Kane Rizzel
NovaKane Incorporated Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2008.03.04 03:09:00 -
[89]
yeah, as has been posted they have started to return, new names but same MO. I suspect CCP banned a range of IPs and they have just proxied back in. I'm not saying Metafarmers didn't have an impact on them but the sudden disappearance has more to do with CCP. Guess it's time to start petitioning again.
A Pirates Perspective
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Lobster Man
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.04 06:35:00 -
[90]
We are aware of the situation and measures are currently being taken to make life as difficult for the farmers as possible.
Everyone please do not stop your petitions
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Stitchedscars
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.04 06:47:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Lobster Man We are aware of the situation and measures are currently being taken to make life as difficult for the farmers as possible.
Everyone please do not stop your petitions
So i should expect more beer being sent to the house to keep my at the computer?
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.03.04 07:26:00 -
[92]
It's just a pilot group, I assume that if we keep the pressure on them they will not return to previous numbers.
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