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Blastcaps Madullier
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
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Posted - 2012.02.20 00:11:00 -
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Quote: I wonder if the price of hisec ores is rising due to some unusual influence? Are miners quitting the game? Or are they just not mining?
new mods new ships etc increasing demand for minerals, less mining due to the cruicible changes to destroyers and introduction of tier 3 BCs making suicide ganking easier (before someone quotes the old "it's not profitable to suicide gank...") a lot these days seem more to care about the isk value of the KILLMAIL rather than what they can get drop wise from ganking say a hulk/mack etc one suggestion i made prior to cruicble being released to balance the changes and keep SG about the same balance as pre cruicble was to tinker with the concord timer, NOT to stop suicide ganking but more to keep it about the same kinda point it was pre cruicible, and because it was a change that would ONLY affect highsec and not null/lowsec and meant ccp would have less of a headache (as well as the possibility of things getting royaly s***ewed else where in game) if they boosted the tank on say a hulk they'd then need to tweek npcs through out the game to compensate for it, which then means tinkering with a lot of other things to balance out that change. just my 2 cents worth |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2012.02.20 00:23:00 -
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Wes Magyar wrote:i was thinking of it more as a gold standard. that way isk has a set value. in Economies that use Gold standards inflation is minimal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard
The gold standard is basically an economic practice where the economy in circulation is only worth as much as the gold that is stored in vaults. In order to enact a "gold standard" economy, we would have to have exactly as much ISK today as there was yesterday, and as there will be tomorrow. If a new player joins the game, how do they get ISK?
Wes Magyar wrote:But other people who are not nearly up to my capabilities noobs primarily can not generate that kind of isk.
In a "gold standard" economy it would be much harder for you to be able to afford to PLEX from month to month, since you wouldn't be able to simply blow up lots of NPCs to make ISK appear out of thin air. PLEX would be cheaper, certainly, but your earning potential would be far lower.
When you're thinking of fixing the price of PLEX in concrete, you're talking of a "planned economy". Paying for your subscription using PLEX is a luxury for space-rich pilots.
If you're not already doing Planetary Interaction, get started in that. If you're not already using EVE Central to find nice trade routes, do that. If you're not already doing manufacturing as a means of raising ISK, do that. If you're not already haunting the Free Wrecks channel to find L4 mission runners to salvage for, do that. There are plenty of options for making ISK that don't require you to be grinding NPCs all day.
There is no simple way to make it possible for more people to afford to pay their game time using PLEX, apart from real-life rich people spending more of their dollars to buy in game funds through PLEX. With higher supply, the value will come down. There's a balancing act here between the people selling PLEX for ISK (who won't buy the PLEX to sell if it's not going to be economically attractive) and the people buying PLEX with ISK (who won't buy the PLEX if they can't afford it).
You might find that saving up for a GTC is easier: check out the Timecode Bazaar and compare the GTC prices to PLEX prices (remembering of course that GTC are 60 day, scam-free time codes, PLEX are only 30 days). Note that you'll want to subscribe to the RSS feed if you want to get particularly good deals, since they will be bought very quickly.
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VeryNice
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.02.20 02:50:00 -
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50 mill a day times 30 days equals 1.5 billion a month easily done and that cost you 15 dollars .......so prices for plexes are waaaay under the 15$ a month mark quit crying plexes should be minimum a bill each maybe slightly less |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY Tribal Conclave
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Posted - 2012.02.20 06:04:00 -
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Well, a step to help in this would be Remove BOTS that are used to grind ISK... and also NERF Incursions....
Other step would be increase the Industrial and other non Isk generation rellated playstyles on EVE... This would increase the PVP level, reduce prices, and act like a ISK sink....
Furthermore I got to remember that a cloaked ship hunter would be helpfull to allow to get and kill Null-sec rating macro-bots and end the afk cloacker problem that kils most of nullsec industry...... |
Tchulen
Trumpets and Bookmarks
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Posted - 2012.02.20 07:50:00 -
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I think I must be missing something major here because as far as I can see there is nothing broken and nothing to fix.
CCP sells plex.
Players can buy plex with real money. Those same players can put up their plex for sale at whatever price they want and will sell their plex if there is someone out there that wants it for that price.
Players can buy plex for isk from players who bought plex for real money. They purchase those plex at whatever price they've been put on the market at.
Therefore the entire system works in precisely the same way as everything else in eve. Supply and demand.
If you bought PLEX with real money would you sell it at 300mill isk because that's the price you think it should be or are you going to sell it for as much as you think you can get away with?
So stop whining that it's costing you more to play EvE. Either sub up or make some more isk to buy a plex. As many people have mentioned, there are ways of making that much isk otherwise they wouldn't be selling at those prices.
Free.... Market.... Economy. Supply and demand. Adapt and stop whining. |
Agente
Milking Interstellar Incorporated.
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Posted - 2012.02.21 18:35:00 -
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Just to add my two cents, the direct consecuence of controlled prices is scarcity because if the price is below its natural level, suply will not meet demand and the market will deplete of plexes.
Of course there are a couple of solutions for this, already tested in controlled economies:
-Queues -Rationing
So you will probably not get your PLEX at that price all the same.
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