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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.03.07 04:59:00 -
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How many battleships would it take to take down an untanked carrier, which was focussing on gank?
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:01:00 -
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Edited by: goodby4u on 07/03/2008 05:01:58 ....Depends on the battleships and carrier,since the carrier could just sit there I would say 1-2....Would take a long time though.
Also,focussing on gank?What will it put in its lows? Why titans shouldnt be in nano gangs. |
Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 07/03/2008 05:01:58 ....Depends on the battleships and carrier,since the carrier could just sit there I would say 1-2....Would take a long time though.
Also,focussing on gank?What will it put in its lows?
thanatos can tank 3000 dps + permanently and its not the strongest tank. archon can tank even more and so does the chimera. nid is the same as thanatos.
not many BSs do over 1000 dps so.. id say more like 3-5 IF the carrier cant lock them. otherways the carrier will kill the BS whit fighters before it dies ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Riho
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 07/03/2008 05:01:58 ....Depends on the battleships and carrier,since the carrier could just sit there I would say 1-2....Would take a long time though.
Also,focussing on gank?What will it put in its lows?
thanatos can tank 3000 dps + permanently and its not the strongest tank. archon can tank even more and so does the chimera. nid is the same as thanatos.
not many BSs do over 1000 dps so.. id say more like 3-5 IF the carrier cant lock them. otherways the carrier will kill the BS whit fighters before it dies
He said untanked. Why titans shouldnt be in nano gangs. |
Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:23:00 -
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I suppose when I say "gank" i mean fitted for quick lock time, so a tank of some form since the carrier fights with it's fighters.
It'd be a chimera too. I've not used carriers before, just toying with some ideas.
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:25:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Originally by: Riho
Originally by: goodby4u Edited by: goodby4u on 07/03/2008 05:01:58 ....Depends on the battleships and carrier,since the carrier could just sit there I would say 1-2....Would take a long time though.
Also,focussing on gank?What will it put in its lows?
thanatos can tank 3000 dps + permanently and its not the strongest tank. archon can tank even more and so does the chimera. nid is the same as thanatos.
not many BSs do over 1000 dps so.. id say more like 3-5 IF the carrier cant lock them. otherways the carrier will kill the BS whit fighters before it dies
He said untanked.
oh :P
then 1 bs is enough :D ---------------------------------- This is Me, fighting stupidity one post at a time. PS: There are no computer BUGs, there is stuff called "Random Features"
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.03.07 05:37:00 -
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Originally by: Jmanis Catharg I suppose when I say "gank" i mean fitted for quick lock time, so a tank of some form since the carrier fights with it's fighters.
It'd be a chimera too. I've not used carriers before, just toying with some ideas.
Well in that case if you want a safe fight 10,kill the fighters then kill him.
If the carrier pilot isnt that smart then 5 will be fine,but they would have to be high damage fitted. Why titans shouldnt be in nano gangs. |
Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.03.07 06:29:00 -
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It's not a matter of how many battleships jump you at once, but how fast you can kill them off before they get reinforcements. If you get jumped by two decently tanked remote repping battleships, it's unlikely you'll escape. They'll hold you down long enough for allies to come and wax you.
Carrier =/= larger battleship. You're going to need support to deal with most threats.
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Niffetin
Gallente Omni Research
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Posted - 2008.03.07 08:38:00 -
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Thanatos + 5 Drone Control Units, what else do you need? --- Teeheee! mematar's Video Archive |
TimMc
Gallente Vidar Fierd Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.07 09:45:00 -
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******** question, a frigate can kill a carrier if it isn't tanked and isn't killing them.
5 Battleships to kill one that isn't killing back. Loads to take it out if it fights back.
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Creedeth
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Posted - 2008.03.07 10:05:00 -
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Thanatos Kill time
No fittings Effective HP 606,456 (counting basic resistances) at 1,200 dps it would take 505,38 Seconds to destroy.
True Sansha fitted, 2 adaptive nano and 1 explosive hardener (not active) Effective HP 822,235 (counting given resistances) at 1,200 dps it would take 685,19 Seconds to destroy.
Complex Fitted w. Full Slave set implants && t2 Trimark riggs. Effective HP 2,057,089 (counting given resistances) at 1,200 dps it would take 1714,24 Seconds to destroy.
However, placed in the face of 50 battleship fleet, which happens quite frequently in 0.0 during major operations, the math change somehow.
Say 600dps / ship longrange... x 50 = 30,000 dps Stripped 20 seconds Faction 27 seconds Ultimate 69 seconds
Guess if you can afford ultimate fit, you might aswell have gotten a Nyx to begin with :)
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Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.03.07 18:59:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc ******** question, a frigate can kill a carrier if it isn't tanked and isn't killing them.
5 Battleships to kill one that isn't killing back. Loads to take it out if it fights back.
Why wouldn't the battleships first de-claw the carrier by killing off the fighters? Once that's done, a little remote repping will prevent any losses and the 5 bs would kill the carrier off in a matter of time and cap.
It's insane how often people overestimate a single carrier. I'd engage one with 3 remote repping bs's just to cause a few hundred million isk in damage.
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Jmanis Catharg
Caldari Stickler inc
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Posted - 2008.03.11 05:05:00 -
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Why wouldn't the battleships first de-claw the carrier by killing off the fighters? Once that's done, a little remote repping will prevent any losses and the 5 bs would kill the carrier off in a matter of time and cap.
It's insane how often people overestimate a single carrier. I'd engage one with 3 remote repping bs's just to cause a few hundred million isk in damage.
Semi-necro coz I kinda forgot about this one, but in the same vein would there be anything stopping the carrier from remote-repping the fighters too?
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Vmir Gallahasen
Gallente Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.03.11 05:53:00 -
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It's possible, but it'll only buy you a few minutes, especially if anybody's packing ewar. You can have up to 15 fighters out at once (9-13 being more typical), but you can only keep 6 targets locked at a time. It's only a matter of time before they pick one that you can't support fast enough.
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