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Zarin
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Posted - 2008.03.08 12:33:00 -
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If they were really such a problem we'd start seeing more ships fit ECCM, I know 1 falcon/rook has trouble keeping 2 other recons jammed even with the right racial jammers and nearly max skills.
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Yana Kaar
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Posted - 2008.03.08 13:54:00 -
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keeping in mind that no other recon can DISABLE TWO ships at the same time, its hardly a disadvantage :D
and recons are always hard to counter with other recons.
web a recon? doenst matter, it can still get out its own ewar withour probs.
damp a recon? works, but they still have a range where you can engage other ships with your ewar or weapons.
neut a recon? well works, but in these situation you will be so GODDAMN defenceless to the rest of the gang, you will get torn apart in seconds.
Jam a recon? imagine level V-skills: you have a >70% chance with one multispec, one racial and the obligatory 3x SDAs. thats hard? keeping in mind that a falcon has 7 meds, able to fit one racial each and 3x multispecs. thats about three recons jammed for >70%. as noone needs to jam amarr-recons (or even matari-ones), you can fit racials for gallente and caldari. makes it possible to EASILY jam 2 recons with 1x multi and 2x racial.
stop whining plx
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.08 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Cogswin Iannyen Maybe a Drake with a cloak, 7 heavy launchers, loaded with FOF missles? Stay cloaked, sneak up to within 20k of him, away from everyone else, uncloak and open up. oorah! FOF, so no need to target...., thereby negating the lock time penalties of the cloaking device...
A cloaked drake does about 75m/s. Getting within 25Km will take 1000 seconds...
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.03.08 15:59:00 -
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I'm a Falcon pilot, and the two things I hate seeing in an enemy gang are stealthbombers (great range, great sensor strength) and Arazus (can take my targetting range down to WAY closer than I want to get, great sensor strength).
Oh yeah and blackbirds. Blackbird with 2-3 Caldari Racials is a PITA. I don't really want to waste a jammer on a T1 cruiser...
By all means send vagabonds and crows racing towards me. I'll be more than happy to jam them, cloak and move off when they get close, leaving them 100Km or so to travel to get back back to the action. That's as good as taking them out of the fight.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |
PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
Gallente MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.03.08 16:41:00 -
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A nano fitted arazu is the answer you are looking for. Should be able to warp in late, cloaked and burn towards your hostile rook, damping down to around 30km and maintaining a scram so he cant escape from around 40-45km (t2 mods). While this will eliminate one of your own gang you nullify what they probably have as the central pivot to their gameplan- jamming ability.
With rails fitting uranium or iridum rounds and x4 med t2 drones you might even be able to finish the rook yourself if he isnt tanked at all and be back into the fight for your friends. More likely you will be orbiting him and perhaps assigning your drones to team mates for extra dps while you keep the rook tied up.
Best thing about the arazu is that you can remain cloaked, making it more likely your enemy will engage and not have a counter for you. Remember to fit an eccm mod to the arazu for good measure just incase rook happens to get an early jam in.
Peace WithinSo if the theory of relativity is true, shouldn't i arrive at my destination before i warped in the first place? Neon GhostYou do, but this is compensated for by lag |
Niko Mat
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Posted - 2008.03.09 16:56:00 -
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Thanks guys - a lot of very helpful and interesting responses here. I'll have to work something out that we can do with our available resources. The stealth bombers in particular sound like a good option.
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