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Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
640
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Posted - 2012.02.20 10:51:00 -
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Hi all,
Not for me, but what happens if a corp member needs to be kicked from corp and he doesn't dock up?
A petition was raised about it but came back saying it is within the scope of the game.New petition/different GM time, or normal answer? The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Sentient Blade
Walk It Off Imperial Ascension
257
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Posted - 2012.02.20 10:54:00 -
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Hmmm I thought you could kick nowerdays because of supercap pilots...
If you can't kick him at next down time, escalate the petition. |

Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
640
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Posted - 2012.02.20 10:55:00 -
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kk thanks dood The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
284

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Posted - 2012.02.20 11:07:00 -
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You can kick a corp mate when he is docked or offline. Game masters will never remove a player from a corporation on request because they stay in space. Filing a new petition will not change this. Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Sakurako Kimino
Volatile Nature
12
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:20:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:You can kick a corp mate when he is docked or offline. Game masters will never remove a player from a corporation on request because they stay in space. Filing a new petition will not change this.
got to ask this and only cos i know that your tell the truth, if player x can log on before someone with the power to kick them and remain online till dt would you guys then remove player
i.e
corp ceo - player x please dock so we can remove you from corp as you no longer welocome for doing x player x - sorry not going to dock or log off
next day repeat
would the gm then remove him from the corp
eve is about sin |

Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
23
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:24:00 -
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Sakurako Kimino wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:You can kick a corp mate when he is docked or offline. Game masters will never remove a player from a corporation on request because they stay in space. Filing a new petition will not change this. got to ask this and only cos i know that your tell the truth, if player x can log on before someone with the power to kick them and remain online till dt would you guys then remove player i.e corp ceo - player x please dock so we can remove you from corp as you no longer welocome for doing x player x - sorry not going to dock or log off next day repeat would the gm then remove him from the corp
GM Homonoia wrote:You can kick a corp mate when he is docked or offline. Game masters will never remove a player from a corporation on request because they stay in space. Filing a new petition will not change this. |

Luba Cibre
39
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:25:00 -
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Sakurako Kimino wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:You can kick a corp mate when he is docked or offline. Game masters will never remove a player from a corporation on request because they stay in space. Filing a new petition will not change this. got to ask this and only cos i know that your tell the truth, if player x can log on before someone with the power to kick them and remain online till dt would you guys then remove player i.e corp ceo - player x please dock so we can remove you from corp as you no longer welocome for doing x player x - sorry not going to dock or log off next day repeat would the gm then remove him from the corp Just pod that ******. |

Cylide Askald
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:28:00 -
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Reminds me of the story when a corp robber stayed somewhere cloaked and that way could not be kicked from the corp he just robbed. He refused to dock until they gave him a medal.
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Sakurako Kimino
Volatile Nature
12
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:31:00 -
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Luba Cibre wrote:Sakurako Kimino wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:You can kick a corp mate when he is docked or offline. Game masters will never remove a player from a corporation on request because they stay in space. Filing a new petition will not change this. got to ask this and only cos i know that your tell the truth, if player x can log on before someone with the power to kick them and remain online till dt would you guys then remove player i.e corp ceo - player x please dock so we can remove you from corp as you no longer welocome for doing x player x - sorry not going to dock or log off next day repeat would the gm then remove him from the corp Just pod that ******.
that is ture if you can find them not always able to what if he stays cloaked
and to cebraio my case is based on the player refusing to dock or log while your online we can't play eve 23/7 and he might be able to log on before you or anyone with role what do you do then if he is cloaked and decloaks to kill blues?
eve is about sin |

Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
23
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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:36:00 -
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Sakurako Kimino wrote: and to cebraio my case is based on the player refusing to dock or log while your online we can't play eve 23/7 and he might be able to log on before you or anyone with role what do you do then if he is cloaked and decloaks to kill blues?
I know what your case is based on, but isn't that question already answered in the GM's post? They are surely aware of the fact that this could be abused as you described it, but they seem to have their own reasons and will not interfere in that case.
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
284

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Posted - 2012.02.20 13:40:00 -
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To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Hroya
14
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:03:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis.
If i recall correct, before the time of supers ( yeah the good old days) members requested to dock up so they could be kicked from the corp were obligated to do so. Failing to comply to the request resulted in a GM intervention.
Granted, upholding that intervention nowadays would be a significant increase in workload no doubt.
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Aqriue
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
474
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:46:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. Don't talk with the CS department, shoot a memo up the chain to the developers. Request they implement and allow members to be kicked at any time, regardless of the circumstances. Set it so that if someone tries it during a wardec to avoid losing a fight the aggro extends for 30 minutes and requires 30 minutes to be accepted to corp (to avoid the on site jumpers cause they were not flashy red before a victim gets owned, attacker turns red but does not get wardec priviledges to attack for 30 minutes, if victim is still hasn't noticed...thats their problem). That fixes alot of issues and less petitions a GM has to deal with. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
1020
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:48:00 -
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I can't help but think we'd be better off to simply allow people to be kicked whenever, but for this to have a delay before it takes effect. Say something on the order of 48 hours, or perhaps a week.
That would seem to be a fair solution for both sides. Sort of like giving them notice, with the option available for the person being kicked to make it effective sooner if desired.
It also seems more "corporate mentality" and (pardon the phrase) realistic. When I check troll in the dictionary, it has a photo shopped picture of you standing somewhere in the vicinity of a point.
Also, I can kill you with my brain. |

TheBlueMonkey
Natural Progression
39
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Posted - 2012.02.20 15:50:00 -
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came here to say pod him but was beaten to it |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
461
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Posted - 2012.02.20 16:25:00 -
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I propose the following change to the game mechanics:
A corp member with the power to kick can put in a Kick Order. If the player is in space, the order is not carried out, but remains in the system "pending the member docking or logging off". As soon as the member does one of those things, the member is automatically kicked. Of course down time logs everyone, so that will activate all pending Kick Orders. I am running for the CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=779668#post779668 |

BeanBagKing
Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing
111
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Posted - 2012.02.20 16:31:00 -
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TheBlueMonkey wrote:came here to say pod him but was beaten to it
One of many reasons I think cloaking should be balanced. Someone like me that has no problem being up for downtime would be impossible to kick. I log in, cloak up in a safespot, wait for downtime. Servers go down, I start spamming the login button until the servers come up, soon as they do I'm in space and I cloak up again. Nobody can ever find me.
Unless their CEO has the time to stay up and spam the login button as well, I'm not getting kicked. Even then it's a question of if he can get in and get through the CEO menu to kick me fast enough before I'm in game and in space again (probably not). It's a really annoying grief tactic I had used against my last corp.
The only thing you can do is add him to watchlist, wait for his internet to randomly disconnect him one day, and then kick him. |

Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 17:39:00 -
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Headerman wrote:Hi all,
Not for me, but what happens if a corp member needs to be kicked from corp and he doesn't dock up?
A petition was raised about it but came back saying it is within the scope of the game.New petition/different GM time, or normal answer?
I just confirmed this with several alts, and as long as the character in question does not have any roles (assigned or derived from an assigned title), you may kick them in space - even while they're still logged in.
This is mostly used on people corp killing, while they're in the middle of the gank. Since they're already engaged against what was a legal target (since they're in corp), and they don't get an aggression timer (since they're in corp), once they're kicked they get auto-CONCORDed without a warning. Fantastic game design right there folks...
EDIT: If I'm not mistaken this ability was put in either in Incursion or Incarna, I forget which. Either way, it was within the last year or so. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
464
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Posted - 2012.02.20 18:27:00 -
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Adriel Malakai wrote:Headerman wrote:Hi all,
Not for me, but what happens if a corp member needs to be kicked from corp and he doesn't dock up?
A petition was raised about it but came back saying it is within the scope of the game.New petition/different GM time, or normal answer? I just confirmed this with several alts, and as long as the character in question does not have any roles (assigned or derived from an assigned title), you may kick them in space - even while they're still logged in. This is mostly used on people corp killing, while they're in the middle of the gank. Since they're already engaged against what was a legal target (since they're in corp), and they don't get an aggression timer (since they're in corp), once they're kicked they get auto-CONCORDed without a warning. Fantastic game design right there folks... EDIT: If I'm not mistaken this ability was put in either in Incursion or Incarna, I forget which. Either way, it was within the last year or so.
Hmm. So if they do have roles, you remove them, wait a day, then kick?
I thought the inability to kick someone while they were in space was due to Wars: you wait for the enemy to call primary on your bait ship, then kick him. Entire enemy fleet gets Concorded. Oops. I am running for the CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=779668#post779668 |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.02.20 18:47:00 -
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I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there. |
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Marlona Sky
EntroPraetorian Academy EntroPraetorian Aegis
454
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Posted - 2012.02.20 18:49:00 -
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You can in fact kick someone while they are in space and while they are online. Seen it first hand. So take that GM!
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.02.20 18:49:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:Adriel Malakai wrote:Headerman wrote:Hi all,
Not for me, but what happens if a corp member needs to be kicked from corp and he doesn't dock up?
A petition was raised about it but came back saying it is within the scope of the game.New petition/different GM time, or normal answer? I just confirmed this with several alts, and as long as the character in question does not have any roles (assigned or derived from an assigned title), you may kick them in space - even while they're still logged in. This is mostly used on people corp killing, while they're in the middle of the gank. Since they're already engaged against what was a legal target (since they're in corp), and they don't get an aggression timer (since they're in corp), once they're kicked they get auto-CONCORDed without a warning. Fantastic game design right there folks... EDIT: If I'm not mistaken this ability was put in either in Incursion or Incarna, I forget which. Either way, it was within the last year or so. Hmm. So if they do have roles, you remove them, wait a day, then kick? I thought the inability to kick someone while they were in space was due to Wars: you wait for the enemy to call primary on your bait ship, then kick him. Entire enemy fleet gets Concorded. Oops.
This would make sense then why the feature is there
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arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.02.20 18:51:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:You can in fact kick someone while they are in space and while they are online. Seen it first hand. So take that GM!
i'm guessing this has something to do with roles then.. |

Adriel Malakai
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.20 19:23:00 -
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NOTHING TO SEE HERE |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
7355
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Posted - 2012.02.20 20:03:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. There is an easy solution. An option to delay kick someone when they next go offline. That way they would be out come next DT.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
998
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Posted - 2012.02.20 20:21:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:You can in fact kick someone while they are in space and while they are online. Seen it first hand. So take that GM! I've seen it done in such a way that a guy was concorded without warning (he was shooting his corpmates, got kicked during, and concord showed up and popped his ship)
They need to make it so you aren't a member of a corp until a legal session change occurs and you can be kicked from the corp in space, but it only takes effect on the next session change. This prevents overview confusion and unwarned concord attacks. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
579
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Posted - 2012.02.20 20:26:00 -
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FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:You can in fact kick someone while they are in space and while they are online. Seen it first hand. So take that GM! I've seen it done in such a way that a guy was concorded without warning (he was shooting his corpmates, got kicked during, and concord showed up and popped his ship) They need to make it so you aren't a member of a corp until a legal session change occurs and you can be kicked from the corp in space, but it only takes effect on the next session change. This prevents overview confusion and unwarned concord attacks. I've seen this just recently. Its rather ridiculous, that CCP says we can't yet it is done. |

Solhild
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
615
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Posted - 2012.02.20 21:15:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:FloppieTheBanjoClown wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:You can in fact kick someone while they are in space and while they are online. Seen it first hand. So take that GM! I've seen it done in such a way that a guy was concorded without warning (he was shooting his corpmates, got kicked during, and concord showed up and popped his ship) They need to make it so you aren't a member of a corp until a legal session change occurs and you can be kicked from the corp in space, but it only takes effect on the next session change. This prevents overview confusion and unwarned concord attacks. I've seen this just recently. Its rather ridiculous, that CCP says we can't yet it is done.
Sounds good to me, concord lols. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E. Comic Mischief
467
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Posted - 2012.02.20 21:37:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there.
Pods can be scanned. Ive seen two cases where a WT that aggressed tried to avoid destruction by logging, only to have their e-warped pod scanned out and popped. I am running for the CSM https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=779668#post779668 |

Doc Severide
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
35
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:07:00 -
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The solution seems simple. Everyone have a group hug. No one is ever kicked from corp.... |
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Jita Alt666
917
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Posted - 2012.02.20 23:43:00 -
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About 24 months ago I had an alt who joined a corp, awoxed the corps mining fleet then cloaking up in local and attempting to slow boat 94au. I would log the alt on at the end of each downtime, and the alt would keep slow boating until the next downtime. After about 15 days (can't remember) I got some correspondence from GM which I can not discuss here but resulted in me logging the alt off long enough for the alt to be removed from the corp. |

Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
303
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Posted - 2012.02.21 01:05:00 -
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i like bananas.....
eve needs too be 100% risk free these days.... stay in empire if you want 100% safety.
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |

NaturalBeast
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:29:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis.
This policy should NEVER change. Keep the sand for the players.
The solution is very simple. Strip the guy of all rights, pod him to empire and then sell his loot. C;mon this ain't rocket science.
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Headerman
Quovis Shadow of xXDEATHXx
641
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Posted - 2012.02.21 03:50:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:i like bananas.....
eve needs too be 100% risk free these days.... stay in -A- space if you want 100% safety.
fyp The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |

Arkady Vachon
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.02.21 06:18:00 -
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Mag's wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. There is an easy solution. An option to delay kick someone when they next go offline. That way they would be out come next DT.
Sounds reasonable to me. Player to be kicked is auto-kicked at next downtime even if they refuse to dock up.
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Bad Messenger
draketrain Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
115
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Posted - 2012.02.21 08:48:00 -
[36] - Quote
GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis.
Player who do not will dock or log off because he do not want that someone is going to kick him out of corp is clearly exploiting game mechanics, maybe GM could ban him for a day. |

Ciar Meara
Virtus Vindice
528
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Posted - 2012.02.21 10:09:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:Hmmm I thought you could kick nowerdays because of supercap pilots...
If you can't kick him at next down time, escalate the petition.
I thought you could these days. - [img]http://go-dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/janus/ceosig.jpg[/img] [yellow]English only please. Zymurgist[/yellow] |

Tiberius Sunstealer
Phantom Soulreavers Axiom Solaris
122
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Posted - 2012.02.21 11:03:00 -
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How about making a kick take affect at DT if the pilot cannot be kicked anytime before it?
Wow. That was hard. I can see why CCP haven't fixed it yet. |

Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
2893
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Posted - 2012.02.21 12:11:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:GM Homonoia wrote:To answer the follow up discussion; no, we still do not step in. However, I can say that we understand that this is a frustrating process and there are some internal discussions among senior members of the customer support department on this subject. Will this change? I do not know. Do we acknowledge that this is something that some of our customers are passionate about? Yes, we do and we do evaluate these issues on a regular basis. Player who do not will dock or log off because he do not want that someone is going to kick him out of corp is clearly exploiting game mechanics, maybe GM could ban him for a day.
No, they clearly just don't want to dock. There is nothing in the rules that says that you MUST dock up. Stop being a jerk.
---- CONCORD arrested two n00bs yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off. |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters C C P Alliance
289

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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:08:00 -
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A small update. As I said earlier; these types of issues are continuously being reviewed and I can add a small addendum to the policy I stated earlier.
We will still not intervene, however should this tactic and behavior enter the realm of "griefing/harassment", we may opt to step in. Note that someone simply refusing to leave for several days does not fall into this category. Things need to go pretty far for us to classify this tactic as such, but we do acknowledge that in some rare, extreme cases an evaluation of that particular individual case may be warranted.
In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***. Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
815
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:17:00 -
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arcca jeth wrote:I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there.
Your explanation of the "unfairness" and mostly the last part I really enjoyed:
"This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there"
Isn't exactly what happens with high sec mechanics?
Ho wait, Eve is an harsh world...the moment isn't yours? |

MadMuppet
Kerguelen Station
143
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:40:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote: In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.
So you can be a total *** or an utter ***, but not both. See, there is a line. 
Buff Hybrid Guns!!!! |

Jita Alt666
930
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:34:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:A small update. As I said earlier; these types of issues are continuously being reviewed and I can add a small addendum to the policy I stated earlier.
We will still not intervene, however should this tactic and behavior enter the realm of "griefing/harassment", we may opt to step in. Note that someone simply refusing to leave for several days does not fall into this category. Things need to go pretty far for us to classify this tactic as such, but we do acknowledge that in some rare, extreme cases an evaluation of that particular individual case may be warranted.
In other words; feel free to use the tactic, but don't be an utter and total ***.
So is the sum total of: Using locator agents and then decloaking on grid and killing/podding then posting inflammatory eve mails is harassment? Or is it the repeated killing/podding that is harrassment? Or is it the inflammatory evemails?
If it is the killing/podding where is the line between "gud fites" and harassment? If it is the inflammatory evemails where is the line between gentle mocking and harassment?
I'm not trying to be a ***, just curious as this seems a grey area where GM interpretation might be the difference between acceptable game play, warning time, or even a temp ban.
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Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
141
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:49:00 -
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The question I have is if there is any benefit to keeping the system as is rather than changing it to allow a CEO to kick a member who is in space? If you want Empire and FW space enhanced, Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=66900&find=unread |

arcca jeth
Dark Alliance Dark Empire Alliance
73
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:27:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:arcca jeth wrote:I recently encountered a scammer, thank you recruiting channel, who joined corp with the intent to scam. When I checked, he was in his pod floating in space in Sobaseki. Once I realized he could not be kicked while he was in space, I was further irritated by this stupid feature. Sure the solution would be to pop him, if finding him was that easy. Can the pod even be scanned down? Not sure didn't try. Nonetheless, the scam was detected from the beginning, and the toon, once called out, shortly destroyed his toon. This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there. Your explanation of the "unfairness" and mostly the last part I really enjoyed: "This just leaves people open to exploit the system the way it is, which does not seem to have any real justification for being there" Isn't exactly what happens with high sec mechanics? Ho wait, Eve is an harsh world...the moment isn't yours?
I was simply relating my experience with this mechanic to a situation that i encountered recently where the scammer was exploiting this mechanic to try to scam me. once i revoked his roles, he couldnt leave for 24 hours, so he "recycled" his toon so he could create a new one to try to scam other unsuspecting victims.
I was relating to the topic really, wasn't trying to say it was unfair. The mechanic could be exploited in various different ways. Wasn't a complaint really, just an observation. not sure if troll....
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:52:00 -
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Update: The pilot in question was succesfully kicked after a director logged on after a DT and removed the pilot from corp before said pilot had logged in.
I believe this particular mechanic is why a GM doesn't feel the need to intervene  The Apostle : I want a kangeroo Captain Kirk : Silly Austrians Sarmatiko : Let me guess: you're from US? Captain Kirk : Yeah Riverside IA - why? |
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