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Mr Kindjal
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Posted - 2008.03.08 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Kindjal on 09/03/2008 00:07:54 "The Apocalypse gains +5tf and +1000mw, the capacitor capacity bonus has been replaced by a 7.5% bonus to large energy turret tracking per Amarr Battleship Skill lvl." So is this it? Or is that a typo?
What is it? Tracking or Optimal range?
realfakeedit:
The patch notes, links to a dev blog which reads: Apocalypse:
* Fitting: 505tf, 20500mw (+5tf, +1000mw) * Capacitor capacity: 7500en (+25%) * Bonuses: o 10% reduction in large energy turret capacitor usage per Amarr Battleship level (no change) o 7.5% bonus to large energy turret optimal range per Amarr Battleship level (replaces the 5% capacitor capacity bonus)
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Audri Fisher
Caldari VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:06:00 -
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God I hope it isn't tracking
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:16:00 -
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Yeah, the dev blog and the patch notes are at odds. Guess we'll see when it hits TQ.
-Liang
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Black Star Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:17:00 -
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What is it on Sisi anyway? In all likelihood, thats what we will get on TQ. And god I hope it is not tracking...
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Liang Nuren
Black Sea Industries Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:18:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar What is it on Sisi anyway? In all likelihood, thats what we will get on TQ. And god I hope it is not tracking...
Optimal's on Sisi -- My new keyboard is awesome... I can type again (beware Eve-O spreaders of misinformation!) |
Junrhod Lockwood
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:44:00 -
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Honestly, optimal range or tracking that's not important, where is the cap bonus ? without it i don't see what to do with this ship
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Ivor Gunn
No One Expects The Spanish Inquisition
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:49:00 -
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Originally by: Junrhod Lockwood Honestly, optimal range or tracking that's not important, where is the cap bonus ? without it i don't see what to do with this ship
0/10. Was going somewhere, but then it didn't.
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Ariel Dawn
Beets and Gravy Syndicate The InterBus Initiative
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Junrhod Lockwood Honestly, optimal range or tracking that's not important, where is the cap bonus ? without it i don't see what to do with this ship
Cap bonus has been included in the base ships, so any changes in the new patch are actually sort of like a 3rd bonus.
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Perfect Diamond
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Junrhod Lockwood Honestly, optimal range or tracking that's not important, where is the cap bonus ? without it i don't see what to do with this ship
Well, if they stick to what the have on the test sever, There is a 25% increase of cap on the apoc. Or was it 25% increase in cap regen. Either way, if they stick to what they have on sisi, it should be fine.
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Lyria Skydancer
Amarr Home 0f Bored Occultists
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Posted - 2008.03.09 00:55:00 -
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No cap bonus and they remove the cap bonus? That would apoc suck even worse. Geez. -------------------------------------- [Video]Skirmish Warfare |
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darkmancer
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Posted - 2008.03.09 01:51:00 -
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Damn the new apoc just pwns the mega as king of the snipers.
More range, more dps, more alpha, better armour + the -10% armour adjustment,
it uses about 15 - 20% more cap, but then it has alot largers cap reserve and now the hidden 3rd bonus of a 25% cap boost.
- Thats before you even conside tachs 0.o
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2008.03.09 05:22:00 -
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Originally by: darkmancer Damn the new apoc just pwns the mega as king of the snipers.
As well it should... the mega pwns everything thing else as a close range gank ship.
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Xequecal
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Posted - 2008.03.09 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: darkmancer Damn the new apoc just pwns the mega as king of the snipers.
More range, more dps, more alpha, better armour + the -10% armour adjustment,
it uses about 15 - 20% more cap, but then it has alot largers cap reserve and now the hidden 3rd bonus of a 25% cap boost.
- Thats before you even conside tachs 0.o
As opposed to now where the Megathron is the best BS in the game for every single possible role except ECMing?
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Trader Jjoe
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Posted - 2008.03.09 05:41:00 -
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OMG a Megathron complaint - please wtf (whine the F)somewhere else. ALL 3 Gallente BS have been and still are awesome (my preference is still for Nos/Neut domi).
I believe that previously the dev blog listed: 1) Cap bonus and 2)distance bonus, and now:
1)tracking bonus ("replaces Cap bonus" as listed in dev blog ), and 2)distance bonus as mentioned (supra).
So they are making the apoc have a tracking and distance bonus . . .could be neat.
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.03.09 06:02:00 -
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They can't be that cruel, right? Oh wait yes they can we've already seen it a hundred times. Well, lets just say i will include the apoc in my prayers.
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Ruah Piskonit
Amarr PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2008.03.09 06:56:00 -
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its a typo for sure, its an optimal bonus on SiSi and the last thing beams need is tracking. . .It just makes no sense to give it a tracking bonus really. ----
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Msobe
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Posted - 2008.03.09 07:29:00 -
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Originally by: Trader Jjoe OMG a Megathron complaint - please wtf (whine the F)somewhere else. ALL 3 Gallente BS have been and still are awesome (my preference is still for Nos/Neut domi).
I believe that previously the dev blog listed: 1) Cap bonus and 2)distance bonus, and now:
1)tracking bonus ("replaces Cap bonus" as listed in dev blog ), and 2)distance bonus as mentioned (supra).
So they are making the apoc have a tracking and distance bonus . . .could be neat.
No, it doesn't say it will get a tracking and distance bonus. The dev blog said capacitor capacity bonus is replaced by a range bonus, the patch notes say the same bonus is replaced by a tracking bonus. No where did it say it was losing the laser cap use reduction bonus.
Sisi had the range bonus, tracking is probably a typo. Not that I'd complain about either . . . or both. (Pulse lasers with almost 40% extra range AND tracking?!? Yeah, lets keep dreaming!)
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Agil TradeAlt
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Msobe
Sisi had the range bonus, tracking is probably a typo. Not that I'd complain about either . . . or both. (Pulse lasers with almost 40% extra range AND tracking?!? Yeah, lets keep dreaming!)
Rokh can have 30km blasters with OMG tracking.
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Ogul
Caldari ZiTek Deepspace Explorations Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.03.09 09:59:00 -
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Originally by: Agil TradeAlt
Originally by: Msobe
Sisi had the range bonus, tracking is probably a typo. Not that I'd complain about either . . . or both. (Pulse lasers with almost 40% extra range AND tracking?!? Yeah, lets keep dreaming!)
Rokh can have 30km blasters with OMG tracking.
And we all know shield tanked close range ships with range bonuses are the best.
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Wu Jiun
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ogul
And we all know shield tanked close range ships with range bonuses are the best.
Torp raven is better than current pulse apoc. Torp Raven is pretty solid now tbh. The Rokh well its not exactly a close range ganker but neither is apoc. Apoc is pretty sucky closerange especially given its direct competitors geddon and abaddon. As a sniper its still the best amarr ship but it just does not need a tracking bonus here.
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kessah
Blood Corsair's Blood Blind
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Posted - 2008.03.09 10:37:00 -
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It seriously better be a typo, i tested the opt range it was a damned nice change to the apoc. Come on CCP tracking ... on pulse/beam? it will bring it at best on par with the other turrets tracking and what good is that?! - no actual advantage to the Apoc... unless your hitting frigates with DHPL.. doubt that though.
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twisttedtitty
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Posted - 2008.03.09 16:03:00 -
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Dev response here ;
Originally by: CCP Greyscale After talking to Ytterbium and the QA guys (who are doing an awesome job right now), checking both SiSi and our internal development server, and consulting the magic 8-ball, it seems that the following changes should still be coming in 1.1:
- 10% large energy turret cap use
- 7.5% Laser optimal range bonus
- Fitting: +5tf, +1000mw (500tf, 19500mw -> 505tf, 20500mw)
- Capacitor capacity: +25% (6000en -> 7500en)
Panic ye not.
/happybunny
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