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Thomina Yorke
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:24:00 -
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Marakor get banned. Permanently.
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Thomina Yorke
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:25:00 -
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Edited by: Thomina Yorke on 10/03/2008 13:25:20 Also, we didn't fail in NOL: our allies did. We will never achieve or do anything, remember?
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:27:00 -
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:29:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon I thought we didn't have the guts to admit we failed? Pick a story and stick to it ;)
Did i really say that are you sure?.
Anyway on the subject of picking a story......this?
Originally by: KIATolon
Xttz had a great idea. Cynojammers should disable all capital modules, so no triage, siege, DD, Portal, fighters, capital reps. That might fix things.
or this..?
Originally by: KIATolon
Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: maralt
Originally by: KIATolon I thought we didn't have the guts to admit we failed? Pick a story and stick to it ;)
Did i really say that are you sure?.
Anyway on the subject of picking a story......this?
Originally by: KIATolon
Xttz had a great idea. Cynojammers should disable all capital modules, so no triage, siege, DD, Portal, fighters, capital reps. That might fix things.
or this..?
Originally by: KIATolon
Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way.
I hate to school you on logic seeing as you seem so adept at it but those statements are mutually exclusive.
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:34:00 -
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Edited by: FastLearner on 10/03/2008 13:35:01 Isn't the obvious fix just to make cyno-jammers also block DDD activation?
Blocking things like capital reppers seems excessive.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: maralt
Originally by: KIATolon I thought we didn't have the guts to admit we failed? Pick a story and stick to it ;)
Did i really say that are you sure?.
Anyway on the subject of picking a story......this?
Originally by: KIATolon
Xttz had a great idea. Cynojammers should disable all capital modules, so no triage, siege, DD, Portal, fighters, capital reps. That might fix things.
or this..?
Originally by: KIATolon
Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way.
There's nothing contradictory there.
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Kian Jorry
Minmatar Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:36:00 -
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Jammer or no, it comes down to who has the higher level of resolve.
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Martin Mckenna
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: TWD Edited by: TWD on 10/03/2008 12:46:34
Originally by: Yorda
4 DD's at the same time cause 0 lag, c/d?
So what you're saying is that lag is the problem ? And that the game should be rebalanced because of lag? (lol)
Errr....yea thats proly what hes saying.
Becuase of lag 4 v 200 the 4 titans can win therefore something needs done?
Correct me if im wrong but whats easyer to fix lag or titans
maybe have a restriction on 1 titan per system per hour?
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Jhyme
Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: maralt
Originally by: KIATolon I thought we didn't have the guts to admit we failed? Pick a story and stick to it ;)
Did i really say that are you sure?.
Anyway on the subject of picking a story......this?
Originally by: KIATolon
Xttz had a great idea. Cynojammers should disable all capital modules, so no triage, siege, DD, Portal, fighters, capital reps. That might fix things.
or this..?
Originally by: KIATolon
Personally I think if there's going to be a nerf, I'd rather take bob's space from them first. It's sweeter that way.
I hate to school you on logic seeing as you seem so adept at it but those statements are mutually exclusive.
You mean independent? =P
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Ethen Bejorn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:38:00 -
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Originally by: Thomina Yorke Also, we didn't fail in NOL: our allies did.
Typical Goon.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Jhyme You mean independent? =P
Yes
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 13:46:58
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Jhyme You mean independent? =P
Yes
So we can be expecting you to be dining in NOL sometime before the cynojammer nerf can we?. A simple yes or no will do im not asking for a specific date
Im sure you will not have a problem answering the question as fear of fail along with K/D scores, respect, mad props are not things you care about in eve at all, i remember all the posts you guys have made telling us.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:49:00 -
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Originally by: maralt So we can be expecting you to be dining in NOL sometime before the cynojammer nerf can we?. A simple yes or no will do im not asking for a specific date
Im sure you will not have a problem answering the question as fear of fail along with K/D scores, respect, mad props are not things you care about in eve at all, i remember all the posts you guys have made telling us.
Maybe NOL, maybe some other station(s). I wonder if bob are intending to take our cynojammed stations before then. Perhaps you could ask them.
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Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: maralt Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 13:46:58
Originally by: Nekumi
Originally by: Jhyme You mean independent? =P
Yes
So we can be expecting you to be dining in NOL sometime before the cynojammer nerf can we?. A simple yes or no will do im not asking for a specific date
Im sure you will not have a problem answering the question as fear of fail along with K/D scores, respect, mad props are not things you care about in eve at all, i remember all the posts you guys have made telling us.
Yes, the entirety of Delve will be purged by March 31st at midnight evetime. I speak from my high position within the illuminati of the goonfleet directorship. Furthermore, no BoB corporation will reside in any region in 0.0 even and especially NPC.
Please bookmark this quote for future quotations.
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: maralt So we can be expecting you to be dining in NOL sometime before the cynojammer nerf can we?. A simple yes or no will do im not asking for a specific date
Im sure you will not have a problem answering the question as fear of fail along with K/D scores, respect, mad props are not things you care about in eve at all, i remember all the posts you guys have made telling us.
Maybe NOL, maybe some other station(s). I wonder if bob are intending to take our cynojammed stations before then. Perhaps you could ask them.
Is it "maybe" now? you used to give timeframes! |
Nekumi
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:52:00 -
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Originally by: TWD
Originally by: KIATolon
Originally by: maralt So we can be expecting you to be dining in NOL sometime before the cynojammer nerf can we?. A simple yes or no will do im not asking for a specific date
Im sure you will not have a problem answering the question as fear of fail along with K/D scores, respect, mad props are not things you care about in eve at all, i remember all the posts you guys have made telling us.
Maybe NOL, maybe some other station(s). I wonder if bob are intending to take our cynojammed stations before then. Perhaps you could ask them.
Is it "maybe" now? you used to give timeframes!
When?
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Lord Fitz
Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:54:00 -
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Increase a titan's mass so it can't use bridges ? Then what you have one system people can defend if they have a titan on standby all the time ?
Carriers can still die quite easily even on a deathstar POS, they are not an issue and can be quite easily locked down. Motherships are much tougher and really require your own cap fleet if they have a dozen of them. Although you will still find a surprise attack somewhere will often get a cyno jammer down before anyone can get enough force together to combat it.
I think we may be seeing a disparity between how well one particular alliance is able to use cyno jammers compared to their usual effectiveness. (which as it stands is not all that much unless you do have a couple of titans and a dozen supercaps)
Once the jammer is down, so you have 30 minutes. So what, you get to plan it, you can have caps jump in, once they are in system re-onlining a cyno jammer won't kick them out, next time you go to take down the jammer you have your own support.
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.03.10 13:57:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 13:59:06
Originally by: TWD
Is it "maybe" now? you used to give timeframes!
Oh hey bud while you here can i ask if your gonna be attacking GOONS cyno jammed systems as that KIAcolon fella asked me to speak to you about it.
Im sure now you have shown them and the rest of EVE how it can be done goons or others are hoping that you will either get shot up trying to get into their systems, or perhaps develop a way to get past it and as such give them another lesson in eve warfare along with this one.
gratz
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:00:00 -
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there is nothing wrong with cyno jammers or the way they are used.
the attacking force should have a hard time imo
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:00:00 -
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There is no problem with CynoJammed systems. Many CynoJammed systems have fallen before. The current one just so happens to be very well defended.
While it may be nearly impossible to take a system with a CynoJammer and 4 Titans in system, the other 4999 systems in Eve don't have that same kind of defense. Ever consider taking all the OTHER Bob systems in Delve first?
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HenkieBoy
Enrave
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:01:00 -
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Those jammers prevent me from roaming with my titan
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:01:00 -
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Edited by: Nlewis on 10/03/2008 14:03:25 If they only changed one thing about cynojammers it needs to have a longer re-anchor timer or something. I think that is really the only thing they would need to do to make it balanced
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Black Steel
Caldari Asgard Schiffswerften Ev0ke
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Black Steel on 10/03/2008 14:07:13 5 cpu use
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:25:00 -
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Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: Princess Jodi There is no problem with CynoJammed systems. Many CynoJammed systems have fallen before. The current one just so happens to be very well defended.
While it may be nearly impossible to take a system with a CynoJammer and 4 Titans in system, the other 4999 systems in Eve don't have that same kind of defense. Ever consider taking all the OTHER Bob systems in Delve first?
No way, that thought totally didn't occur. Neither did attacking 4 systems at once. Ohwai-Titans can move? When did this happen?
Dear Idiot-On-A-Stick: Its much easier to move the attacking fleets than it is to move the Titans. Particularily if the new systems are oh, say, Cyno Jammed? Or are you now going to complain that the real problem is Jump Bridges in conjunction with Cyno Jammers and multiple Titans?
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Death Mate
Death Mates
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:26:00 -
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Honestly, after reviewing some of these replies and thinking about it some more. I think that really there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the jammers and BoB infact SHOULD be able to whole themselves up and be extremely difficult to weed out.
There would be a problem if it allowed an entity to successfully and repeatedly go on the OFFENSIVE but being a DEFENSIVE mechanic I think the scenario has played out exactly as it should, given the resources they possess.
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KIATolon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:27:00 -
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Yes, it is easier to move a titan through 3 jump bridges than a fleet 20 jumps.
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maralt
Minmatar The seers of truth
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: maralt on 10/03/2008 14:29:08
Originally by: Princess Jodi
Dear Idiot-On-A-Stick: Its much easier to move the attacking fleets than it is to move the Titans. Particularily if the new systems are oh, say, Cyno Jammed? Or are you now going to complain that the real problem is Jump Bridges in conjunction with Cyno Jammers and multiple Titans?
Its titans, multiple titans, jump bridges, cyno jammers, carrier drone swarms, the fact that all their friends went home.............
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Yorda
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:29:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
Originally by: Yorda
Originally by: Princess Jodi There is no problem with CynoJammed systems. Many CynoJammed systems have fallen before. The current one just so happens to be very well defended.
While it may be nearly impossible to take a system with a CynoJammer and 4 Titans in system, the other 4999 systems in Eve don't have that same kind of defense. Ever consider taking all the OTHER Bob systems in Delve first?
No way, that thought totally didn't occur. Neither did attacking 4 systems at once. Ohwai-Titans can move? When did this happen?
Dear Idiot-On-A-Stick: Its much easier to move the attacking fleets than it is to move the Titans. Particularily if the new systems are oh, say, Cyno Jammed? Or are you now going to complain that the real problem is Jump Bridges in conjunction with Cyno Jammers and multiple Titans?
Do you have any idea how long it takes to take out a cynojammer?
Even with 0 guns on the tower, and a blob of 100 max gank battleships you're talking 2minutes just focusing on the jammer. Add in the fact of 30+ guns ripping apart the battleships and it's not even possible. With a 50 person RR blob it usually takes a good hour.
Originally by: nlewis jammers are the meatshield [Bob] wish their pets were
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Serrano Balthar
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.03.10 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Yorda you're talking 2minutes just focusing on the jammer
2 WHOLE minutes ???
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