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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
552
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:14:00 -
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Parthonax wrote:is the CSM still relevant ? after all what happened in 2011 If i read correctly on these forums they didn't really do much did they , except for that free trip to iceland , it was the player base that made CCP change course , not them
Derp.
The CSM are quite relevant and you should read moar betterer. The CSM is the lens that focuses the community's ire, the point at the tip of the spear, and the face of the masses that CCP sees when they go to Iceland.
...and speaking of faces, you should have another go at that character creator thingy. First time 'round didn't turn out well. This is my signature.-á There are many others like it, but this one is mine. |
Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
139
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:36:00 -
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Vote rigging would be if he paid us to vote. And even then, it would probably be legal in Eve.
But the fact that members of his alliance trust him and vote for him, can hardly be called rigging.
Its like calling *rigging* when members of republican/democratic/whatever political party in rl vote for their representative during the elections! Omg! Rigged!
PS. Omg something leaked from TWR!!! Never happened before! For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
442
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:49:00 -
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evereplicant wrote:baltec1 wrote:Look at this bitter master spy thinking they have some sort of massive scoop on another CFC conspiracy. errr no not really its freely available infor on en24 - smartass Same on k.com. What's your point? There are spies in GoonSwarm. Big surprise! (9:06 PM) aaronkb@optonlin: all of your deeds wil be forgiven if u go on cam and pose nude for me-á |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2368
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Posted - 2012.02.22 13:37:00 -
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Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:So they are trying to make the mitani fella look like Mr. Obama? The same guy who said if things dont go his way will go around congress essentially making the US a monarchy?
Well... damn We are indeed telling you to vote for the King of Space and Chairman For Life, The Mittani. |
Vile rat
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
761
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Posted - 2012.02.22 14:01:00 -
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I, too, think having your people vote for you is cheating. Hey goons if you vote for your candidate you are rigging the vote!
Last year Mittani voted for me and I voted for him just so we wouldn't get caught in this kind of ugly vote fraud. |
Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:50:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote: You realize that your rage posts are what The_Mittani values most in this game right?
You pain, your ire, your suffering are the driving force behind the CFC's success.
This, my friend, is what keeps me from retiring and going back to the biomass. I must say, I was rather disappointed at the responses of the Goon CFO and various other affiliated parties made to my post. The responses were altogether too reasonable and rational. At the risk of besmirching anyone's reputation, I would say they were actually quite civilized and civil. Not one mention of rapine, butthurt, or other juvenile crudities. To be honest, those civil responses rather dampened my enthusiasm for standing up and throwing a shoe.
But then, sir, your message (excerpted above) reminded me of what Mr. Mittani's Goons and their CFC associates stand for. (Or at least, what their well-crafted P.R. tells the world they stand for). Which is the infliction of grief upon other players. And the derivation of satisfaction and trollulz from said grief. With the ultimate satisfaction being the infliction of such a degree of devastation on a player that his game experience is irreparably ruined, so that he quits the game. Said player not being at war with the Goon alliance or otherwise provoking it. Just subscribing players minding their own business and playing the game. Such at least is the impression given by a recent Goons recruiting poster. (I unfortunately do not have cite-link at hand, but it is of course publicly posted). "Join Goons and you too can make people cry and quit the game."
Well sirs. I think we can assume that many, many players of EvE want to enjoy the game. Many, many of them would prefer to enjoy it and not have the game experience so ruined for them that they quit. (If we think about it, what sort of player-to-player interaction make one player quit? It's not likely that consensual PVP would cause that. The player would be psychologically geared for PVP and take the loss as loss. Perhaps a very disappointing loss, but still a situation that he himself got his ship/game assets into. No, having the game experience ruined would have to come from being griefed, scammed, or bullied/humiliated to the point where it is no longer fun).
These things considered, I am perplexed that the leader of an organization devoted to griefing and ruining the game experience for people should be a member of the CSM. Isn't the purpose of the CSM to help improve the game experience for players, not ruin it? Or is the CSM's real purpose to improve the game experience for a small minority of players? Those who get their enjoyment from being "elite" tear-collectors? |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
113
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Posted - 2012.02.22 17:55:00 -
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That dude wrote like two lines and got you to waste your time writing four long paragraphs that nobody is ever going to read. |
SeaBassSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.02.22 18:15:00 -
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Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:Isn't there a famous quote about democracy being two wolves and a sheep voting over what to have for dinner v0v
Not sure, but I do know some portly British dude said that the best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter. Pretty sure he'd be a Goon if he was around today.
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Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.02.22 19:56:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:That dude wrote like two lines and got you to waste your time writing four long paragraphs that nobody is ever going to read. OK, here's the short version: How can the leader of an organization devoted to ruining the game experience for some players serve on a committee devoted to improving the game experience for all players? |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
115
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:09:00 -
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Willard Mitt Romney wrote: OK, here's the short version: How can the leader of an organization devoted to ruining the game experience for some players serve on a committee devoted to improving the game experience for all players?
Taking your question as hypothetical, let me respond in kind. How would the members of such an organization find meaning and fulfillment in a game that already provides a bad game experience by default? |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:40:00 -
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I see OP is a spai of the highest calibre.
War Room leaks.
Johnny Marzetti wrote:Taking your question as hypothetical, let me respond in kind. How would the members of such an organization find meaning and fulfillment in a game that already provides a bad game experience by default? Does it involve Rifters and Drakes, by any chance?
Weaselior wrote:Imajitaaltofanalt ofanalt wrote:So they are trying to make the mitani fella look like Mr. Obama? The same guy who said if things dont go his way will go around congress essentially making the US a monarchy? We are indeed telling you to vote for the King of Space and Chairman For Life, The Mittani. The Mittani doesn't have to go around congress, we don't have one.
All the socialist-sourced goon propaganda appears to be lost on you.
Rodj Blake wrote:2) Mr. Mittani promised 500mil isk for each piece of good propaganda submitted. That's quite a pile of do-re-mi. But he failed to explain the source of the funds. Will the payment come from his personal account, or from the Goons' alliance funds? Maybe Goons don't care whether their dictator spends their collective money on his personal campaign or not. Most taxpaying people would, though. Ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I thought the Mittani already eats all the tech? You mean we actually do get reimbursed? Cause that's like 10 drakes for 100drakes worth of EVE-O forums rage. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
117
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:45:00 -
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Well, what I meant was that ruining someone's game would be much less satisfying if the game had already ruined itself, compared to ruining someone's time in a really good game.
But rifters and drakes are good, too. Especially rifters. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.02.22 20:47:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Well, what I meant was that ruining someone's game would be much less satisfying if the game had already ruined itself, compared to ruining someone's time in a really good game.
But rifters and drakes are good, too. Especially rifters. Oh, right. Good point.
It's just that not too many games (good or not) allow you to ruin other people's days without getting you banned as well or something like that. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
HELIC0N ONE
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2012.02.22 21:12:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote: I am sure a lot of people voted for Obama because he is black and for no other reason than that....Get a big group of sheep that blindly follow any moron of a ape that comes along.
Look at this horrific racism.
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Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.02.22 22:53:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Well, what I meant was that ruining someone's game would be much less satisfying if the game had already ruined itself, compared to ruining someone's time in a really good game.
But rifters and drakes are good, too. Especially rifters. Exactly. This hypothetical council member would want to play in a really good game. And ruin some other player's time in it. So to him, a really good game includes plenty of opportunities to ruin other player's game experience. Doesn't it seem a little odd that somebody wanting to ruin other players' fun would be representing them on the player feedback council? It's kind of like making the playground bully a member of the playground rules committee. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:12:00 -
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Willard Mitt Romney, you have chosen you character's name very well. |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
12
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:21:00 -
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It not conspiracy. they will go and activate the inactive accounts they have or make new ones before the election to stack the votes in their favor. it is a Goon tactic to rig anything they can into their favor. this is something that CCP should keep an eye out for and go make changes that those who can vote is an active paid account thats 30 days active or older for activity. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
119
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:25:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:It not conspiracy. they will go and activate the inactive accounts they have or make new ones before the election to stack the votes in their favor. it is a Goon tactic to rig anything they can into their favor. this is something that CCP should keep an eye out for and go make changes that those who can vote is an active paid account thats 30 days active or older for activity.
Tell me more about ~goon tactics~ |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:11:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Tell me more about ~goon tactics~ Our top secret goon tactics database has been accessed by hostile SPAIs !
Sound the alarm...
Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Willard Mitt Romney
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2012.02.23 01:22:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Willard Mitt Romney, you have chosen you character's name very well. That you sir. After I retire from public life and return to the biomass, I shall return as.... George W. Bush. Or whatever variation of that name is available. And you had better not misunderestimate me. |
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Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
434
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Posted - 2012.02.23 02:55:00 -
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mitt romney sir could you tell me about euthanasia in the netherlands? I lost my bracelet and I'm afraid I'll get euthanized |
Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2012.02.23 07:59:00 -
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Ziranda Hakuli wrote:It not conspiracy. they will go and activate the inactive accounts they have or make new ones before the election to stack the votes in their favor. it is a Goon tactic to rig anything they can into their favor. this is something that CCP should keep an eye out for and go make changes that those who can vote is an active paid account thats 30 days active or older for activity. Yeah, only goons will vote from their alt accounts and activate inactive accounts to vote and get their representatives to CSM. other players and alliances are too honorable to do that and will vote only from mains. True story.
Goon tactics ftw! For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
87
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Posted - 2012.02.23 08:39:00 -
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Know why we rig elections in EVE?
Because we can. |
Red Templar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
143
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Posted - 2012.02.23 09:00:00 -
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because thats what you do with elections. everywhere. For Love. For Peace. For Honor.
For None of the Above.
For Pony! |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
1025
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Posted - 2012.02.23 11:44:00 -
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Not constructive and inappropriate language mixed with personal attacks.
Thread locked.
A more constructive discussion of CSM voting and possible flaws of democracy especially in the CSM election is available here. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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