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Rabid Rich
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.03.17 11:26:00 -
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I am not gonna ask for anything like t2 cloak or covert cyno mechanic reworking. those are both contentious issues.
On the other hand, i don't really see much counterarguement for making these ships immune to the cloak scan resolution penalty. their currently gimped lock time is actually a big deterrent to using these ships aggressively, and countering it takes 2midslots really.
Even if the current recal time immunity was swapped for scan res penalty immunity that would be a worthwhile change, as it is FAR more common to be arriving on an enemy from off-grid, than on grid and in position ahead of them(you don't use these ships for gate/station camping by themselves either)
this change would free up a midslot or two for something more useful(minor ewar or cap recharge) without opening up overpoweredness claims of warping cloaked(the t2 cloak suggestion would do this).
Unless this change is put through, you are gonna see most BOBS fitted with expanders and rechargers, flown like a jump freighter and never really taken into a fight.
their lack of tank/dps and expense already makes them unviable for heavy combat duties, but the scan res penalty also hugely hurts their minor engagement potential to the point where even that is not worth bothering with in these ships from a risk/reward perspective.
It is only a minor adjustment. but a worthwhile and balanced one
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Glassback
Body Count Inc.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.03.17 13:44:00 -
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I agree.
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Rabid Rich
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.03.18 10:28:00 -
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Edited by: Rabid Rich on 18/03/2008 10:29:05
because there are not many black ops pilots yet, nor will there ever be as a percentage of the eve population, this topic is not going to attract much attention. but it is nevertheless a much needed minor tweak to these ships to enable them to fulfill their intended role cause it kinda breaks them a bit at the moment tbh(in addition to the insanely high fuel usage, but that is another topic). so i have bumped it for another day.
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Seldarine
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2008.03.18 11:48:00 -
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I agree. I must admit when i first heard of the black-ops concept i was rather excited about them. Its a real shame that when they were introduced CCPs new policy of pre-nerfing everything new to the game has made them rather useless in thier intended role. Unless you have another ship there tackling for you your not getting as lock.
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Waxau
The Fated
Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 12:04:00 -
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Tbh, there are a wide range of things that need to be fixed with Black ops currently. One such fact is indeed the scan res. To highlight the OP's point, take the Widow (yes, many will be sick of my views by now i know...)
The ship itself is an ECM boat. So what do ALL ECM boats have in common? Fast lock time. Minus the Scorp, which therefore fits the counteracting sensor booster. The Widow, even with a sensor booster, locks slower than a Scorp WITHOUT a sensor booster. Hardly useful for that 'OMGOMGOMG JAM HIM!' moment.
Coupled with that point is that of the entire ROLE. Black ops. Hard hitting, and stealthy, but with minimal defence. Right? Right. So why is it, that they cant 'strike fast' due to the lock time?
In a perfect world, these black ops should be - In, Bish Bash Bosh, Out. However, as of right now, you can go make a coffee whilst you lock, and still return to have the outcome you would get in any case. A dead ship, due to not locking fast enough (and in this case, not being able to ECM the target).
Till i get my Widow up to 0.0, im having a bit of fun on SiSi with it - And i must say, theyre incredibly fun and enjoyable ships (when they cost 100isk:P). But for 550 mil, there really needs to be some love with the overall dynamics of their use. For this threads purpose - Scan Res Penalty.
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Niffetin
Omni Research
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Posted - 2008.03.18 12:11:00 -
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Yup they desperately need a scan res boost or a cloak scan res penalty reduction.
Also I have heard that the new Cov Ops Cyno Generators show up on overview, which IMO shouldn't.
Black Ops still have a long way to go before they have any reasonable use.
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Waxau
The Fated
Odyssey.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 12:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Niffetin
Also I have heard that the new Cov Ops Cyno Generators show up on overview, which IMO shouldn't.
You wha?????? Are you serious?  
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