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Lowkey Asgaurd
Lowkey Asgaurd
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations

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Posted - 2008.03.17 14:22:00 - [1]

Hi everybody

If you'd be happy with the next 6 months worth of patches only including bug fixes
and code optimizations.

No new ship no new fancy graphics no ambulation.

NOTHING NEW ... JUST FIXES

Please sign your name here with the number of accounts you pay for.


Mannington Skank
Mannington Skank
Capitalism Amuck
The Second Genesis

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Posted - 2008.03.17 14:31:00 - [2]

/signed /signed /signed
3 accounts

Mannington Skank
Reverend Clayton
ExpNinja
sci0gon
sci0gon
Tech 2 Ammo Holdings Limited
Tech Holdings Limited

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Posted - 2008.03.17 14:42:00 - [3]

6months? hell id go a year without new content if they could fix whats in game so far

signed on 3 accounts :P
boo3916
boo3916
D00M.
Triumvirate.

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Posted - 2008.03.17 14:56:00 - [4]

Edited by: boo3916 on 17/03/2008 14:57:03
signed/
2 accounts for almost 4 years thats some ú,s by now.
i am seriously getting peeved off with all these boost patches which we dont need. i like to pvp but the way ccp is going i might as well just not log on with all the bugs and fricking patches

ccp get a bloody grip before u lose your valued long term players
no new glittzy things just a game that works with minimul lag please
Mephistophilis
Mephistophilis
Cygnus Alpha Syndicate

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Posted - 2008.03.17 15:01:00 - [5]

Signed

I'd be more than happy going back 2 1/2 years for stability. getting rid of all the T2 stuff. Heh just imagine a universe where battleships are scary Rolling Eyes
riggerz
riggerz
Edyta Enterprises
Sylph Alliance

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Posted - 2008.03.17 15:03:00 - [6]

/signed

2 Accounts.
Yaroze
Yaroze
Halo Holdings .Inc
The Second Genesis

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Posted - 2008.03.17 15:05:00 - [7]

/signed

Yaroze
Yarik Mendel


RoyAraym
RoyAraym
The Scope

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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:39:00 - [8]

Signed.


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... me not.>
ZAFARAN
ZAFARAN
The Forsakened Companions
Pure.

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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:42:00 - [9]

signed x2 accounts
Kirgan
Kirgan
Pyrognome

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Posted - 2008.03.17 20:58:00 - [10]

Edited by: Kirgan on 17/03/2008 20:59:14
I imagine even new players would take stability over fluff, as many are not gaming newbieÆs just because they are new to Eve. Makes you wonder how many of the Trial Accounts are going to be for more than just spamming isk sellers.

I agree with the Op /signed
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Krianya Lobezlav
Krianya Lobezlav
the evil ones
Burning Horizons

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Posted - 2008.03.17 22:09:00 - [11]

Signed.
Slivovitz
Slivovitz
The Arrow Project
Morsus Mihi

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Posted - 2008.03.18 00:47:00 - [12]

So what should CCP do with the employees that are unable to work on fixes? Send them on a 6 month vacation? Sorry but you are assuming way too much. While I will agree 100% CCP needs to work more on quality assurance, this doesn't really have much to do with content creation. The people who create new stuff for the game can't just stop and go fix bugs.
Arcadia Seith
Arcadia Seith
Black Wolves
Rule of Three

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:27:00 - [13]

>So what should CCP do with the employees that are unable to work on fixes?

That's easy - they can test the game thoroughly! And play it in depth to understand some of the balance issues and frustrations real players have.

/signed - 2 accounts
fothern
fothern
Imperium Forces
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:29:00 - [14]

/signed
TheBaptist
TheBaptist
The Suicide Kings
FOUNDATI0N

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:30:00 - [15]

Signed 2 accounts too
BlueTest2
BlueTest2
Dire Trucking
Varangian Syndicate

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:33:00 - [16]

/signed

BlueTest2
Perdix
Perdix
Gladiators of Rage
DeStInY.

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:35:00 - [17]

/signed
Minor Marcia
Minor Marcia
Roughneck NMK

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:37:00 - [18]

/signed
2 accounts
Leet Magician
Leet Magician
Evolution
Band of Brothers

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:37:00 - [19]

/signed

another 3 accounts
Enkilil
Enkilil
Carbon Moon Corporation
Abyss Alliance

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:40:00 - [20]

/signed

2 accounts, only 1 active until things get better.
Best of luck w/ petition.
Mike Zach
Mike Zach
Republic Military School

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:43:00 - [21]

Originally by: Slivovitz
So what should CCP do with the employees that are unable to work on fixes? Send them on a 6 month vacation?

I can see the problem, cause it seems to involve 99% of CCP's staff. But it sounds like we can all agree with the OP on this.

What we could and should expect is for CCP to have a dedicated bug hunting team doing some serious testing before patches are released (which would eliminate approx. 95% of the hotfixes). We should also expect them to answer well placed criticism on these forums. Not giving any feedback is just childish, like saying: if we don't read it, it dosen't exist!

/signed


Perdix
Perdix
Gladiators of Rage
DeStInY.

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Posted - 2008.03.18 13:47:00 - [22]

Originally by: Slivovitz
So what should CCP do with the employees that are unable to work on fixes? Send them on a 6 month vacation? Sorry but you are assuming way too much. While I will agree 100% CCP needs to work more on quality assurance, this doesn't really have much to do with content creation. The people who create new stuff for the game can't just stop and go fix bugs.


Sack them and get the staff you actually need to run a quality MMO. If staffing levels are geared toward content creation then thats the answer. Like so many MMOs though the current EVE that we pay for and love probably is not what CCP wants the product to be. Star wars galaxies comes to mind lol.
Honor Tank
Honor Tank
Brutor tribe

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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:02:00 - [23]

/signed
Toran Foral
Toran Foral
Center for Advanced Studies

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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:12:00 - [24]

/signed/

Toran Foral :p
StarRanger
StarRanger
Royal Star Ranger Family
Confederation of Independent Corporations

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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:21:00 - [25]

Edited by: StarRanger on 18/03/2008 18:22:57
/signed

Not just to support a corp-member , but the idea just attracts me. Been playing from beta-6 till now, and I agree this is the worst patch ever. When I saw the huge list of "fixes" on the Patch Notes I knew we were in trouble because CCP is showing even more and more that the various divisions it has are not communicating with each other and that the Quality-Check crew is not doing its job any more.

Hope to see more real fixes now, without new bugs appearing, because that is just too embarrassing now a days.

Running 2 accounts... well 1 now until CCP fixes the lag and the random crashes. ugh
Elane
Elane
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations

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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:49:00 - [26]

Signed.

3 Accounts.
Lansfear
Lansfear
FLC Lost and Found
Confederation of Independent Corporations

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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:50:00 - [27]

Signed. Two accounts.
princess funbags
princess funbags
Freelancing Corp
Confederation of Independent Corporations

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Posted - 2008.03.18 18:54:00 - [28]

Signed, More brothels in empire stations.... oh wait... Just fixes, ok, that works also.Very Happy

2 Accounts
tailboom3
tailboom3
Ever Flow

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Posted - 2008.03.18 20:16:00 - [29]

two accounts and signed on both.
Olleybear
Olleybear
Red Dwarf Mining Corps
Rule of Three

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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:08:00 - [30]

Signed. Please oh please fix the game I love so dearly. I stopped playing for 2 1/2 months late last year and played WoW ( yes, I really did ). WoW got boring pretty quick. Their market is a joke and pvp in wow is a joke. They do know how to make a stable game with some of the prettiest graphics I have seen. But, guess what game I came back to... Eve.

Eve has it all. But I can hardly play since the boost patch. My FPS dropped through the floor. Yes, bug report already sent.

2 accounts here that I pay for each month. No paying for GTC's with isk.

<<< From one warrior to another: Whether you fight with me or against me, the willingness to fight makes us brothers. >>>
Mayalla
Mayalla
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three

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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:22:00 - [31]

Signed...

2 accounts
Gonnosuke
Gonnosuke
Akita Research Enterprises Inc.

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Posted - 2008.03.18 22:42:00 - [32]

/signed
Evolutius
Evolutius
ESI Corporation

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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:54:00 - [33]

/signed

Now we just need 100,000 more signatures!

Marik Hardigan
Marik Hardigan
Imperial Academy

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Posted - 2008.03.19 00:29:00 - [34]

/Signed

2 accounts
Nicholas Scott
Nicholas Scott
Space Empire Builder

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Posted - 2008.03.19 00:58:00 - [35]

/Signed

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schmarty pants
schmarty pants
State War Academy

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Posted - 2008.03.19 01:17:00 - [36]

very much signed.

5 accounts here and 2 are due to expire at the end of this month. After the last patch and loosing all my setting's I just CBF'd setting them up again.
Karitsa
Karitsa
MASS
Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service

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Posted - 2008.03.19 01:32:00 - [37]

Signed

3 accounts + quite much more spend in gtc

I dont remember when the game was last so buggy.

First time seriously thinking bout quitting.
Tolderan
Tolderan
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi

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Posted - 2008.03.19 02:25:00 - [38]

/Signed fix bugs and lag plz Rolling Eyes
Random Lust
Random Lust
Gladiators of Rage
DeStInY.

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Posted - 2008.03.19 03:33:00 - [39]

Edited by: Random Lust on 19/03/2008 03:33:33
If I released code like this to my clients, I would be out of a job.

THis is unacceptable.Evil or Very Mad

/signed
Bohoba
Bohoba
dragons nest
imPure.

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Posted - 2008.03.19 04:29:00 - [40]

/signed

+ 4 accounts

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Gigabyte X38-DQ6
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Extreme CPU Q6850 Memory 4,093.69 MB
2X Crossfire ASUS EAH3870/G/HTDI/512M Radeon HD 3870 512MB

Almighty Zeus07
Almighty Zeus07
Black Wolves
Rule of Three

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Posted - 2008.03.19 04:33:00 - [41]

Almighty Zeus07
2 accounts
Miss Ohm
Miss Ohm
Two Men's Honor
New EVE Rising

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Posted - 2008.03.19 06:07:00 - [42]

Edited by: Miss Ohm on 19/03/2008 06:07:36
absolutely signed!

x 2 accounts
deathatlaby
deathatlaby
School of Applied Knowledge

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Posted - 2008.03.19 06:48:00 - [43]

/Signed + 3 accounts.
Shawanda Jackson
Shawanda Jackson
Eternal Pheonix
Libertas Fidelitas

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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:58:00 - [44]

/signed 3accounts
Deby Dallas
Deby Dallas
Snake Eyes Inc
Rule of Three

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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:11:00 - [45]

Signed 2 accounts
xKickerx
xKickerx
SS Mining and Industry Ltd

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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:33:00 - [46]

I just started this game only have a month under my belt LOVE this game fix it!!!

/signed
/signed
/signed
Muscaat
Muscaat
Eve University
Ivy League

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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:52:00 - [47]

/signed
Nisd
Nisd
INDUSTRIA BATTLETECH

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Posted - 2008.03.19 15:17:00 - [48]

sign x 2 Twisted Evil
Quani
Quani
Trill Crabulas

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Posted - 2008.03.19 16:13:00 - [49]

Signed 3 accts
- -
- -

http://trillcrabula.griefwatch.net
Rramar Claime
Rramar Claime
Ordo Quaesitoris

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Posted - 2008.03.19 16:31:00 - [50]

/signed

I'm kinda sure though that most of the players never even entered the forums...
Katini Ellegahn
Katini Ellegahn
Capital Development and Security Industries

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Posted - 2008.03.19 17:27:00 - [51]

Originally by: Rramar Claime
/signed

I'm kinda sure though that most of the players never even entered the forums...


I hope CCP in all its wisdom realizes that even a small number of posts here represents a much larger number of people who either
a)can't be bothered
b)can't find this thread (due in no small part to horrible forum mechanics)
c)uninstalled this game without a second thought
d)have signed other threads that should have been part of this thread (option b very much applies here)
e)are tired of signing threads that get little or no 'official' replies
f)have previously read an 'official' reply and, in furious anger thrown their computers out the window
g)or just don't feel it makes any difference

I would just like to point out to CCP - that over the year that I've been reading the forums, its gone from "If you don't fix [insert problem] I'm canceling [insert inflated number of accounts]" to (and this is what should scare CCP) "As soon as [insert name of one of the dozen or so new MMO games] comes out, I'm outta here."

CCP may not be seeing any dramatic drops in their sub base - but rest assured, there are companies gunning for top spot in Space/Fantasy MMO's. CCP's actions now can greatly influence the success of its competitors in the future.
</truth>
CamelKnight III
CamelKnight III
Imperial Dreams
Curatores Veritatis Alliance

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Posted - 2008.03.19 17:30:00 - [52]

/signed

2 Accounts
Gonnosuke
Gonnosuke
Akita Research Enterprises Inc.

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Posted - 2008.03.20 01:17:00 - [53]

/signed a second time,

forgot to add that I have two active subscriptions running atm. Don't know for how long that will still be the case though... Twisted Evil
Mos7Wan7ed
Mos7Wan7ed
Gladiators of Rage
DeStInY.

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Posted - 2008.03.20 04:51:00 - [54]

bug fixing patch that introduces more bugs is no bug fix at all!!!!! get real bug testers and stop using the player base to test your software.

/signed 4 accounts
Ladyah Liandri
Ladyah Liandri
Caille Insurance
Phoenix Allianz

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Posted - 2008.03.20 06:16:00 - [55]

/signed

3 accounts

Filth
Filth
Eve University
Ivy League

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Posted - 2008.03.20 09:31:00 - [56]

signed
Lag Hon
Lag Hon
Lag Hon Security

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Posted - 2008.03.20 09:45:00 - [57]

Signed
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power governments, and tyrants, and armies can not stand.
G'Kar

Ashaani
Ashaani
Garoun Investment Bank

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Posted - 2008.03.20 10:18:00 - [58]

/signed
Bean Counter
Bean Counter
Starfinder Corp

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Posted - 2008.03.20 10:29:00 - [59]

Signed for two accounts.
Nurofenusa
Nurofenusa
Labteck Corporation LTD.
Libertas Fidelitas

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Posted - 2008.03.20 11:11:00 - [60]

/Signed

I've had my connection drop twice in the last 4 hours - Not an uncommon occurrance since the 'Boost'***** up patch. I've noticed when i get dropped a few others (who I might add, live in very different areas in the world) have the same thing happen Sad

The server is as stable as a blindfolded geriactric trying iceskating for the first time.

7 accounts.

Nuro


mole face
mole face
Royal Amarr Institute

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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:11:00 - [61]

Bugs thats an understatement and yes fix what you keep breaking about had my fill of it.
3 paying accts
Rhaegor Stormborn
Rhaegor Stormborn
Volition Cult
The Volition Cult

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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:16:00 - [62]

/signed with two accounts.


Volition Cult Recruitment Post
Triath Lon
Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance
Legion of xXDEATHXx

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Posted - 2008.03.20 18:23:00 - [63]

/signed

4 accounts
________

Arazu - when you, eventually, lock me - you'll shoot me.
Pilgrim - you can lock me, just can't hit me.
Falcon - if i'm lucky...
LeMoFo
LeMoFo
Phantom Squad
Insurgency

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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:29:00 - [64]

signed ugh
WaResZ
WaResZ
Phantom Squad
Insurgency

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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:31:00 - [65]

Originally by: Lowkey Asgaurd
Hi everybody

If you'd be happy with the next 6 months worth of patches only including bug fixes
and code optimizations.

No new ship no new fancy graphics no ambulation.

NOTHING NEW ... JUST FIXES

Please sign your name here with the number of accounts you pay for.




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Chanur
Chanur
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency

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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:36:00 - [66]

/Signed

2 Acc¦s
JuGGeR
JuGGeR
Phantom Squad
Insurgency

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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:41:00 - [67]

Sigend

7 accounts


/ Yes im a eve addict / hehe
Phantomsquad
Sarah Thrace
Sarah Thrace
Thrace Enterprises

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Posted - 2008.03.20 22:55:00 - [68]

/signed for 2 accounts...
deathlords
deathlords

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Posted - 2008.03.21 01:35:00 - [69]

/me signs

Developing automated functional testing framework for EVE, something like froglogic.com has for Qt framework, should be the priority. Then run the test environment internally (maybe 4 systems in 2 regions) at 100x regular time.

Testing guidelines like CCP has them, with people going one step at a time, is just not going to cut it. I know what I speak of. People get tired of doing same functionality test over, and over, and over again for every unrelated change.

It should be run once, recorded, and replayed at 100x time speedup. And results should always match. Stuff like guns running out of ammo, BPO returning to station when lab blows up and BPO installed in station, ice processing, titan manufacturing, NPC station refining, etc, etc...

I know, CCP probably will never read this or care. Or it will be read by some support staff that doesn't really know what software development is or how QA runs... Oh well.... ugh

grizzlemethis
grizzlemethis
Epiphyte Mining and Exploration
Combined Planetary Union

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Posted - 2008.03.21 03:58:00 - [70]

Not that its gonna matter in any way but i couldnt sign this enough /signed 3 ACCOUNTS
Zuquar Bonaparte
Zuquar Bonaparte
Hematite Rose
Bionic Dawn

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Posted - 2008.03.21 06:33:00 - [71]

signed 2 accounts ,since 2004, even though it wouldnt make much difrence as they will just screw it all up on the next patch anyway, but would be nice to see that they actually try to fix them instead of letting u be in the dark all the time.
signed /signed /and signed againRolling Eyes