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faxtarious
Kai-Zen inc.
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:17:00 -
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It would be nice if we (the mission runners) could get a representative up there... 1-Aside from salvage and the marauder (haven't seen many in my mission hub), there has almost never been any major improvements or modifications in that department. 2-As an EVE citizen that opposes WoW and it's grinding, I find my missions "grindings" to be pretty WoW-like. 3-every serious Mission runner I know have standings 6+ with faction and 9+ with NPC corps. Those standings don't really mean much. Even in the term of agent selection, since we usually find one good quality lvl 4+ agent and stick with him. 4-it's been almost 5 years since the missions have been created...the game has evolved drastically and politically, yet, the missions stay the same. The storylines are intriguing (before you get that same mission 10 times in a row) so why can't we built upon that. More diverse mission, not the "lock and shoot" or haul and mine (aka buy it on market). 5-Make "team" missions more rewarding and more "entertaining" for the whole...the lvl 5 missions was a great addition to the game. When I heard about the lvl of difficulty and how it was "unsoloable" the first thing that came to mind was creating a corporation the revolves around lvl 5's (with logistics, tactics..and everything) But i juts noticed that a lvl 5 is just a big stuff that is first Not interesting due to the fact that the reward is not there for a group, and the insane number of nos towers makes them out to be who's got the most logistics. If it was tough of well, it could have been about who's the better FC, how to tactically use your Mission fleet (send a small frig trough a "frig only gate" to activate the Bigger gate while spam after spam of npcs keep the heavy arsenal busy. IĈm just throwing thing up..But that's the EVE I knew... Make it complex since most of your costumers joined EVE for its depth...not its graphics (although it owns props)
We criticize wow, yet, aside from the great "2003 revolutionary" mmo that EVE was it hasn't changed nor evolved since then.
I'm not talking about, nor representing PvPer. I'm a mission runner, always have been, and probably always will be, since pvp is more of a team game than anything else. There is room in EVE for both PVE and PVP...
I understand that CCP,s been busy since the game has grown so big to listen to the player base like they used to do before, (probably why they are putting this project up so fast) But US mission runners need a representative up there. to keep both PVE and PVP well balanced (not juts nerf something because its overpowered in PVP...it probably wasn't in PVE.
That was my 50 cent, and probably the longest post I've ever done here since 04'
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.18 23:38:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T
Originally by: Goumindong
Originally by: Akita T
What, do you believe there will be no press coverage of this ? And the CSM members won't be quoted (with real names) in some of the news-items ?
Frankly no, if i were elected i would not expect to be quoted in the media, and of course you can always opt out of that[or at least opt out of being named]
From the PDFs :
Because election winners will ultimately make appearances on EVE -TV and EON , candidates must run under their real-life names, and may either create a new character or use an existing account name to give themselves an in-game identity.
So, there you have it...
Yea, because we all know all those Eve-TV folks were named Spiral Junkie and Stavros by their mothers...
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Cerui Tarshiel
Clown Punchers. Clown Punchers Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.03.19 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Akita T Edited by: Akita T on 18/03/2008 21:31:41
Oh, hell... my passport expired 5 months ago, and I never bothered renewing it since I had no intention of travelling OUTSIDE the EU. You DO need a passport to go to Iceland if you're a citizen of an EU member state, right ? I mean, Iceland is not in the EU, just in the European "trade" zone.
What, do you believe there will be no press coverage of this ? And the CSM members won't be quoted (with real names) in some of the news-items ?
Actually Iceland is member of the Schengen border cooperation thingy so if your country is a member of that, which I do belive most if not all EU countries are, you can travel without a passport to Iceland.
Having said that you should always have a passport when travelling just in case (it's the most widely accepted proof of identity I belive).
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Bakhal Yttrites
Stair Fall
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Posted - 2008.03.19 01:27:00 -
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Sadness. No running for me, as it would take a minimum of a couple months (or was it a couple years?)to get a passport from the US government right now. If they've managed to figure out how to store neural pathway and corneal scans and genetic material and whatever crap Google comes up with when they search for my name all on one card.
Sigh. Guess I'll just have to wait till next year. And hope my passport arrives before then.
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.19 03:48:00 -
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Quote: It is very important that the information entered match with the information on your passport scan.
Does this mean i should lie about my current address, because my current residence is not the address which is on my valid and not out of date passport.
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.19 05:15:00 -
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If I were to apply now but my campaign website wasn't ready, would I be able to edit my application and add the link to my website at a later time, once it's finished? |
Sylthi
Coreward Pan-Galactic
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Posted - 2008.03.19 06:14:00 -
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Meh. If the council ever gets real power I might be interested. Until then, pass. Heck, not like I would get the votes to go anyway. But, more power to all of you guys that are running. I hope you all enjoy your miniature "elite" fanfest, and all the volunteer work for CCP you are going to have to do to get it.
I might actually vote though. Might vote for Verone. At least he doesn't blow you away after you pay the ransom. He used to make cool videos to watch too....
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CCP Xhagen
C C P
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Posted - 2008.03.19 07:23:00 -
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Originally by: Bane Glorious If I were to apply now but my campaign website wasn't ready, would I be able to edit my application and add the link to my website at a later time, once it's finished?
Yes. Or just send in your application when your site is ready, you have two weeks ____________________________
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CCP Xhagen
C C P
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Posted - 2008.03.19 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: Cerui Tarshiel
Actually Iceland is member of the Schengen border cooperation thingy so if your country is a member of that, which I do belive most if not all EU countries are, you can travel without a passport to Iceland.
Having said that you should always have a passport when travelling just in case (it's the most widely accepted proof of identity I belive).
That is why we only accept a passport as an identification. We have to have a confirmation of an identity before we extend an invitation out. I doubt one would be able to board an airplane on tickets bought in a name other than your own. ____________________________
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Mitchman
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2008.03.19 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Xhagen
You have to be able to travel to Iceland is the only requirement. That means you have to have a passport. I don't know how it is to get a passport if one is not at a legal age. But, we did not pose any age restriction.
Word a note: you do not need a passport if you're a citizen of one of the nordic countries as they have special agreements among eachother. As a matter of fact, I went to the fanfest and made a point of not bringing a passport :)
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2008.03.19 07:53:00 -
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Finally.
/Ben
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Brolly
Atkumi Corp
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Posted - 2008.03.19 08:45:00 -
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At last, movement on the CSM begins!. I would have put in for the application but I have no passport, damn shame really.
I really hope we get enough good representatives from various aspects of the game instead of all but 1 being into pvp and 0.0. This could either be something great for eve and gaming as a whole or something epically fail, I really do hope it's the former.
Good luck to all you reps
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Hardin
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 08:57:00 -
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A quick question relating to this section:
All candidates must verify their identity to CP before they can officially be acknowledged as a candidate. I n addition, a valid passport is required for travel and admission to I celand and participation on the CSM . B ecause election winners will ultimately make appearances on EVE -TV and EON , candidates must run under their real-life names, and may either create a new character or use an existing account name to give themselves an in-game identity.
Does that mean that candidates have to disclose their real life name to the EVE community or can they run using their established account name?
I am slightly concerned that in this age of Google etc. that Members of the Council of Stellar Management could be the victims of real life harrassment not necessarily because of their involvement in the Council but due to people taking ingame conflicts too personally... While it hasn't happened in EVE there are examples of ingame vendettas being carried into real life with tragic consequences.
Once a real life name is published it doesn't take an internet genius long to track that person down. For the candidates it also has a potential impact on future career prospects. As someone who has responsibility for recruitment in my company I often check out Google/Facebook/Myspace upon receiving CV's. While I personally would have no objection to employing someone playing an Internet Space Game I am not sure all other employers are as open minded and there is no doubt that the names of the candidates will be published on various sites which will eventually be Googleable. This will be particularly hard for candidates who fail to get elected - as employers will be sure to wonder why.
Maybe that is just a risk the candidates have to take for the 'honour' of being selected and I know of course that real life politicians have to take this risk but would like some clarification on this from CCP...
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:17:00 -
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I agree with Hardin.
I would also kinda like to know if i would be disqualified because my contact address isn't the one on my passport.
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CCP Xhagen
C C P
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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:18:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin A quick question relating to this section:
All candidates must verify their identity to CCP before they can officially be acknowledged as a candidate. I n addition, a valid passport is required for travel and admission to Iceland and participation on the CSM . Because election winners will ultimately make appearances on EVE -TV and EON , candidates must run under their real-life names, and may either create a new character or use an existing account name to give themselves an in-game identity.
Does that mean that candidates have to disclose their real life name to the EVE community or can they run using their established account name?
The real life name WILL BE DISCLOSED by CCP. That means you will run for candidacy under your real life name, with a character name of your choise to give other players a connection to who you are.
This also means that either you run in your full real life name, or you don't run at all. ____________________________
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CCP Xhagen
C C P
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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:20:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
I agree with Hardin.
I would also kinda like to know if i would be disqualified because my contact address isn't the one on my passport.
Not necessarily. This will simply be handled on a case by case basis. ____________________________
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.19 09:43:00 -
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Was there any thought to not releasing the names of the Candidates?
Cause i don't see a good reason for doing so except opening up candidates unnecessary retribution and harassment.
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Hardin
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:24:00 -
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I would imagine that the real reason is Public Relations.
CCP will want to use the Council of Stellar Management as a major news/PR opportunity and they will no doubt want the candidates to be interviewed as 'real people' to give the story more authenticity for non-gaming media.
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Zarch AlDain
Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:27:00 -
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I don't like/understand the full real life name thing :(
It's not so bad if your name is 'John Smith' but for someone like me with an unusual surname that would mean that anyone I've blown up in game could quite easily track me down. I know it's unlikely to actually happen but the privacy of someone's real life identity has always been something CCP has protected in the past.
I can understand CCP needing to know the real life identity and have no problem with that but what difference does it make to the players if my name is John Smith, Elizabeth Whickwicky the third or Granny Weatherwax? Surely what they are interested is who I am in game?
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Ethidium Bromide
ZEALOT WARRIORS AGAINST TERRORISTS Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:27:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin I would imagine that the real reason is Public Relations.
CCP will want to use the Council of Stellar Management as a major news/PR opportunity and they will no doubt want the candidates to be interviewed as 'real people' to give the story more authenticity for non-gaming media.
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CCP Xhagen
C C P
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Was there any thought to not releasing the names of the Candidates?
Cause i don't see a good reason for doing so except opening up candidates unnecessary retribution and harassment.
Appearing on Eve-TV and EON is not a legitimate reason, while i haven't been watching the duration of the run. I have not witnessed anyone being referenced by their real name. Even developers are referenced by their moniker or handle.
If you know who we are, and we know who we are, then why does everyone else need to know, especially if they will be voting for Goumindong or Verone or Bane Glorious and not John Kilgore or Barry MacDaniels? It very unlikely that anyone will run on anything other than their forum presence, but making the disclosure optional would be a better idea to allow someone to run on their own good name while not forcing everyone to open themselves.
It was decided very early on to require people to give up their real life names in order to run, and that the real life names were going to be made public. This is of course the first run of the new CSM and thus I will note down this observation and take it into consideration for the next term. ____________________________
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Hardin
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Xhagen
Originally by: Goumindong
Was there any thought to not releasing the names of the Candidates?
Cause i don't see a good reason for doing so except opening up candidates unnecessary retribution and harassment.
Appearing on Eve-TV and EON is not a legitimate reason, while i haven't been watching the duration of the run. I have not witnessed anyone being referenced by their real name. Even developers are referenced by their moniker or handle.
If you know who we are, and we know who we are, then why does everyone else need to know, especially if they will be voting for Goumindong or Verone or Bane Glorious and not John Kilgore or Barry MacDaniels? It very unlikely that anyone will run on anything other than their forum presence, but making the disclosure optional would be a better idea to allow someone to run on their own good name while not forcing everyone to open themselves.
It was decided very early on to require people to give up their real life names in order to run, and that the real life names were going to be made public.
It is decisions like this that the first CSM should be scrutinising as the 'public' justifications offered here (EON/EVE TV) really do not hold water...
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Goumindong
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.19 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Xhagen
Originally by: Goumindong
Was there any thought to not releasing the names of the Candidates?
Cause i don't see a good reason for doing so except opening up candidates unnecessary retribution and harassment.
Appearing on Eve-TV and EON is not a legitimate reason, while i haven't been watching the duration of the run. I have not witnessed anyone being referenced by their real name. Even developers are referenced by their moniker or handle.
If you know who we are, and we know who we are, then why does everyone else need to know, especially if they will be voting for Goumindong or Verone or Bane Glorious and not John Kilgore or Barry MacDaniels? It very unlikely that anyone will run on anything other than their forum presence, but making the disclosure optional would be a better idea to allow someone to run on their own good name while not forcing everyone to open themselves.
It was decided very early on to require people to give up their real life names in order to run, and that the real life names were going to be made public. This is of course the first run of the new CSM and thus I will note down this observation and take it into consideration for the next term.
Why not simply not disclose unless it becomes necessary in execution of duties of the CSM and save yourself the hassle?
I can't see how changing the non-voluntary disclosure to a voluntary disclosure would be a problem for you. You will still be receiving and verifying identities, you still have account information. The only thing that changes is that people don't get told our real names unless we want them to.
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Spoon Thumb
Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Spoon Thumb on 19/03/2008 13:15:37 Those of ethnic minorities or living in a country where they are somehow oppressed might be discouraged by having to give their real life name.
I hope it wouldn't be the case that people discriminate on those sorts of grounds, but it is entirely possible someone could face real life consequences as some may take the online world to be an extension of such discriminations in RL
What happens if a candidate gets put in jail for partaking in democratic activities, even if only online?
Edit: is there a parallel scheme in China?
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a newbie
Ninja Trade Caeruleum Alliance
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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:06:00 -
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Ugh! 2 weeks for passport limit? I couldn't get that if I paid 4x the price.. UGH.
I was going to run for english/japanese players but forget it now. Only people who have active passports can get it in under 2 weeks. *sighs*
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RaZZZZia
Pulsar Combat Supplies Alternative Realities
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Posted - 2008.03.19 13:59:00 -
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Are there any plans to take measures against the domination of the council by a single alliance?
I dont see the sense of the project, if the council gets to much an orientation towards one of the political fractions ingame... Even if the council members try to be objective about game matters, they hardly can be. No pilote could, i guess
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Bane Glorious
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.03.19 14:25:00 -
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If we're still talking about disclosing real life names to the public, I really do not like the idea. Considering that people threatened real life bodily harm upon Zulupark just a few months ago, I'd like to minimize the risk of some nerdy psycho breaking into my house and cutting my throat with his Korean-manufactured katana.
So yeah, please, can we make real life names private, or at least a little private? Like maybe just initials? |
Pheonix Kanan
The Conflagration New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2008.03.19 15:00:00 -
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There is nothing wrong with wanting fair representation in the creation and modification of this system (EVE). However, democracies/republics only work when the size of the group is small (say 1000 people or less). The more people you have one person representing, the more people they end up screwing over.
Basically, the end result of any form of representative government, although excellent for keeping the general populace happy, ends up in one of two failing groups (in the long run). Either you end up falling under the tyranny of the minority rule, and cause many terrible things to happen. Or you open the doors for the stupid and the ignorant (or just plain apathetic) people have the power to change everything in everyone's lives (look at America if you need an example).
It's not that I don't support this idea of Eve players having a say in the development of the game. However, as I read through the forums and look at the general ideas put forth by the player base, I cannot help but to think that they will cause Eve's complete and total destruction. If the devs really wanted to listen to the player base, they could just as easily read the forums as we all do. But they are choosing a route, while pacifying their players, will most likely be the single downfall of the game they are trying to keep afloat. -----
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Ripper Waveleng
Galaxy Research
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Posted - 2008.03.19 15:07:00 -
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Dude, It is a BS position, as a figure head which has no power and will have little or no ability to effect real change in the game. Most of us have real lives with real jobs and don't have time to fly to Iceland 2-3 times a year.
Basically your going to get elected and the next morning yur evemail is going to be so full of crabby whining complaint emails that you'll have to hire 20 staff members to help read all of it and then all yur going to be able to tell people is they should hit f12
For a community represenative to have real power it has to be a grassroots move, not a***** and bull-Pony show for CCP to get more ad time with,,
You want to be able to make change get 5-10 thousands people behind you that are willing to send a message by cancelling their alt account for a month.
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Orree
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2008.03.19 15:36:00 -
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Ripper...if you've served in any sort of leadership or diplomatic capacity in this game, what you speak of is something you've already dealt with and continue to deal with.
For my part. I'm very intrigued by the prospect of this council. Is it perfect? No. I'm willing to give things a chance to work and evolve. I also have no problem accepting the council and rules/mandates surrounding it at face value.
I'm not very creative and don't know squat about putting a webpage together, so that will be my biggest hurdle to entry.
I think I'm going to apply assuming I can sort it the website thing. I've spent most of my adult working life acting in an advisory/decision-making support capacity to various entities and clients and it's a lot of what I do in-game, as well.
Campaign slogans...
"Orree. Has a passport and it's still valid!"
"A vote for Orree is a vote for...Orree."
Ugh...terrible.
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